Raven's Claw

did it look like this??

thanks for the lowdown!! wordwolf, i would say if there was no physical bondage then Rosie and Donna would come out of the closet, paw in paw, on a SNS. Until that time, it seems pretty stealthy to me, ie...closet lebians, IF they are. the pieces DO paint an interesting picture... ...and they are raking in the ABS on the pretense that homosexuality is wrong according the The Word, yet they do all this weird $*@!e in front of everybody. That is awful bold...i wonder what innies think?? must raise eyebrows if anything...

well, im confused, too. If donna was/is a lesbian, which it seems is what most people think on here, wouldn't it be horrific suppression of sexual orientation to A. LIKE being married to LCM and b. to start and continue having sex with him during their marriage?? If that is so, these women, who are supposed lesbians or bi-sexual, must be living under tremendous physical, mental, and spiritual bondage, while orchestrating their own witch hunts on supposed gays in The Way!! Talk about hypocrisy!! nothing against lesbians raising kids!!

funny pic, its soooo obvious... if donna is a supposed lesbian, why did she have three kids?? makes no sense. she was all involved in the motherly thing, and still is. unlessss, she is that mentally disturbed to have the facade of being married, yet carried on lesbian affairs in the past and presently has one with Rozilla?? who has the devil spirits now, bi-yotch?? this is all getting confusing... :blink:

damn, right....although the courts is where the action SHOULD be, but im not opposed to "other" methods....

Thanks for the posts of the videos. brought back alot of memories. for instance, i had the adv. class in 93 (LCMs version) as well, and was the last wave of WOWs who went out in 93 from HQ, which was when Royal filmed those. I spent alot of time on grounds both at Indiana Campus and HQ from a wee lad, so those videos were eerily familiar. Put lots of hours of labor in at indiana campus as well as HQ, only to see it all ....ed away by idiots. its so ironic, everything in that footage was payed for, for the most part, by people no longer a part of The Way...good thing no one has a mind to take it all back, brick by brick...yet.

"It's not about change...........it's about THEM and the ADULATION THEY SO CRAVE". bingo.

this was very similar to the explosions in the Twin Towers on 9/11. that conspiracy is out there, too. believe it or not? i personally saw the towers fall on live TV. it looked like they just collapsed on themselves. its all speculative. sorta like how we new about Pearl Harbor before it happened. no way to prove it...

Another point. What most, if not ALL, of this young group of naive, uninformed, and ignorant way youth, is failing to understand, is that they would not have TWI if was not for the ton of people who post on this site and posted on Waydale. The YEARS invested. The MONEY spent. The BLOOD spilled. The wars fought for classes, and for people's lives. You cannot turn a deaf ear to that many witnesses. You cannot ignore that many skeletons in a closet. What little rag tag outfit you may have today only exists due to thousands of people who no longer "fellowship" with TWI. Now they leech of that blood, sweat, tears, and MONEY, and just barely manage to sqweek by today. These young folks think no one has ever tried to change The Way? Been there, done that!!! We all have tried it, in our own way. Not to mention the doctrinal error/plagerism that begins at the very basics of Way dogma. How are you gonna make the practical more "exciting, revelant, hip, etc.", when The Way does not even have a leg to stand on docrinally? How are you gonna make the teaching of Eve was a lesbian with the Devil hip and acceptable? How are you gonna make in the days of Peleg cool and revalent?? by shanking your head, and talking about all the crap in the past, drinking some beers,listening to the latest bands and wiping all that $*@! up under the rug? If you think God is blessing ANY aspect of that organization, i feel sorry for your lack of understanding of what being blessed is. Life can be ALOT better than what it is right now, my friends. why do i care? family and friends STILL in. and it gets frustrating. I wont be like my turncoat wayfer "friends", who turned their backs when i needed them most. but i will bring information and knowledge to the table, because i wont submit to their "ask no questions policies". I will come on here and post when i want and say what i want. its nice to be free, if you only knew what THAT was. you wanna ride mr. toads wild ride of TWI?? be warned MF's, be fricken warned.....

The common thread with these teens and college kids, is that most of them have been in it their WHOLE lives. Everyone who is going to leave from the LCM fallout has pretty much left. Alot of them have to be aware of the mass exodus due to the lawsuits, Waydale, and Greasespot. The majority of the feeling is that VPW's teachings are right and they are going to carry on the task of teaching Gods Word like it has not been known since the 1st century church. Their parents want legacys goddammit!! They are very aware of the problems within The Way, and i think the number one contributing factor to staying hot for the Word is family connections and family pressure. Like i said, most of this group has been in their whole life. Leaving The Way is a huge task, when you have no support system outside of The Way. That is why they stay sooo connected through the Internet and classes. Dallas was THE place to be, to stay connected and hang out with Way friends. Its the feeling that, that is all they have, and they all share common goals and problems that are unique to young Wayfers. Like, trying to date a female or male that is in a different state, but just met at the most recent Adv. Class. or Special. Where else can one experience that than in the Household?? They cannot be unequally yoked together with an unbeliever, so the only people to date are fellow believers. Well, if your area has 20 believers, and you are the only teen or young person, then you are gonna be at that Adv. Class or special to sow your wild oats, godammit!!! Been there, done that!! Dont get me started on the guilt factor for liking unbelievers that is handed out to those poor saps who are still in!! Its like the feeling of those who stuck it out through the Fog Years. We thought it was such a noble, valiant cause, standing side by side with LCM and the Board of Trustees who were recieving revelation on how to crush the VPW imposter,C. Geer, who shapeshifts into VPWs likeness at a whim, and so on. It was us against them, the dreaded Stick people who worshipped VPW and listened to all of his tapes constantly and stole the PFAL class. How dare they!! We are gonna wash our feet in the blood of the wicked!! Now WE are the Stick people. We are enemy of the Way these days. We are all possessed and spread lies about The Way on the Internet. We are the fuel that stoke the fire of the new generation of Wayfers, how ever few of them that are left. They are going to conquer us all with yet, with ANOTHER taped class, and prove us all wrong with an even thicker syllabus!! And the cycle goes on....

I heard he was "tired of the fight" and quit believing. Never heard of the eye cancer or whatever cancer he had, until Waydale.

thanks second james!! it would be a case of "putting off the old, and putting on the new"!! maybe change can occur, who knows.

There is a small group of young Way folks who did make it through to college and are very happy with being in theWay. They go to school all around the country, alot go to Bowling Green. They believe that they can make positive changes within the Way once they go in the Corps or get onto staff at HQ. Since the rules have relaxed somewhat, or least from when i was in, they are ALLOWED alot more freedom. They believe in the Bible and that the Word of God is the Will of God. Alot do not believe what they read on The Web and here at Greasespot. This is a young, vibrant group, and they stay in touch with each other all over the country and world via Internet. But i guess the main goal is to bring about changes, like bringing the Rock back to the Way, once they obtain positions of power themselves. But this group is pretty small, and their hopes are set very high.

" How can some of the folks who revile those who hold different doctrinal positions be so sure that they've got it right?" This the question of the ages. There is no prescribed formula to win god's favor and a special spot in heaven, no matter what denomination you root for.