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WG - I used to relate to the first guy singing...now I relate more to the second guy. Life moves on, huh?

:blink: I think I'll have a V8....

Did you ever see the movie on "PFAL '77"? What was it called???

Dear Dooj,Learn to say, "No" more often.Laugh more.Don't throw away that British cut of Rubber Soul

Thank you, Dmiller! I really enjoyed Lorena I promise not to make any more jokes about her last name....;)

I heard this while driving the girls to school.John Mayer "Daughters" For daughters everywhere...

“If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men.” “While you are proclaiming peace with your lips, be careful to have it even more fully in your heart.” ~St. Francis of Assisi~

“More persons, on the whole, are humbugged by believing in nothing, than by believing too much” “Those who really desire to attain an independence, have only set their minds upon it, and adopt the proper means, as they do in regard to any other object which they wish to accomplish, and the thing is easily done.” And of course: "There's a sucker born every minute" ~P.T. Barnum~

“Our Similarities bring us to a common ground; Our Differences allow us to be fascinated by each other” ~Tom Robbins~ “Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves." ~Carl Jung~ If God had a bumper sticker, it would probably read: SHINE, DON'T WHINE. ~Tom Robbins~

One man's theology is another man's belly laugh. ~Robert A. Heinlein~ When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know, the end result is tyranny and oppression no matter how holy the motives. ~Robert A. Heinlein~

We were only to wear Doves and WOW pins <_<

I got this from another board I visit: Little Leroy came into the kitchen where his mother was making dinner. His birthday was coming up and he thought this was a good time to tell his Mother what he wanted. "Mom, I want a bike for my birthday." Little Leroy was a bit of a troublemaker He had gotten into trouble at school and at home. Leroy's mother asked him if he thought he deserved to get a bike for his birthday. "Of course", he said. Leroy's mother, being a Christian woman, wanted him to reflect on his behavior over the last year. "Go to your room , Leroy, and think about how you have behaved this year. Then write a letter to God and tell him why you deserve a bike for your birthday." Little Leroy stomped up the steps to his room and sat down to write God a letter. Letter 1 Dear God, I have been a very good boy this year and I would like a bike for my birthday. I want a red one. Your friend, Leroy. Leroy knew that it was not true. He had not been a good boy this year, so he tore it up and started over. Letter 2 Dear God, I have been an OK boy this year. I still would like a bike for my birthday. Leroy. Leroy knew he could not send this letter to God either. So, Leroy wrote a third letter. Letter 3 Dear God, I know I haven't been a good boy this year. I am very sorry I will be a good boy if you just send me a bike for my birthday. Please! Thank you, Leroy. Leroy knew that it was not true. By now he was very upset. He went downstairs and told his mother that he needed to go to church. She thought her plan had worked. " Just be home for dinner," she told him. Leroy walked down the street to the church on the corner. He went to the altar. Leroy looked around to see if anyone was looking as he bent down and picked up a statue of the Virgin Mary. He slipped it up under his shirt and ran out the church going back home. He ran to his room and shut the door. Leroy began to write his letter to God. Letter 4 Dear God, I got your mama. If you want to see her again, send the bike.

“My grief lies all within, And these external manners of lament Are merely shadows to the unseen grief That swells with silence in the tortured soul” “Give sorrow words. The grief that does not speak whispers the o'er-fraught heart, and bids it break.” “Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none; be able for thine enemy rather in power than use; and keep thy friend under thine own life's key; be checked for silence, but never taxed for speech” “Listen to many, speak to a few.” “He that is thy friend indeed, He will help thee in thy need: If thou sorrow, he will weep; If thou wake, he cannot sleep: Thus of every grief in heart He with thee does bear a part. These are certain signs to know Faithful friend from flattering foe.” ~William Shakespeare~

Maybe he had the first successful heart replacement - a football where his heart should have been.

“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” ~Plato~

Discourse means discussion or conversation. My first post gives the reasons that I find open discussion (with all sides being discussed) valuable.

Edited because I put a post in the wrong place.

"Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." ~Pablo Picasso~

I'm starting to understand now... BUT - Here's my opinion on that reasoning: If I'm relating something from my past, I am giving a first hand account. To me, it's truth. So when I tell you about the birth of my first daughter, (don't worry - I won't ;)) I'm relating first hand information - not my opinion of that event. Now - if something had gone wrong (it didn't) I would have to say, "in my opinion the doctor screwed up." If a bunch of GSers read that account and say, "Heck Yea! he screwed up!" then that opinion gains a weight that maybe it didn't deserve. So, I shouldn't then turn around and say, "Back when my daughter was born the doctor screwed up." BUT - I would still get to relate my first hand account that I witnessed. I just shouldn't editorialize and add some line about cussing that doctor's family line for generations to come... It's still a very cumbersome way to run a discussion board. This isn't a forum for investigative journalists in training. But that's just my opinion...

I'm sorry WD - I just don't see the point of holding a discussion to the standard of a court of law. I'm trying to understand your logic...

Definitions of Legal Claims I think you're still being too stringent. This is not a court of law. There are no trials occurring here.

Have both in triplicate on my desk in the morning, please. ;)

I know Excie - I just think that the term is being used haphazardly. I don't even think it applies to a public discussion. On the other hand - there would be enough eye-witness testimonies here to meet some of that burden, if my reading is correct.

I thought I'd throw out some definitions for "burden of proof." I haven't read them entirely, so I am not trying to say anyone is wrong or right. I just thought if the phrase is being used, that at least everyone can have the same definition to go by: One DefinitionClick for more Another DefinitionClick for more I hope this helps...

“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” and “I don't know, I don't care, and it doesn't make any difference!” ~Albert Einstein~