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Love, love LOVE Bouguereau! Here's a link and a sample of more of his work: His images seem to almost be able to walk off the page.

Hateful doctrines or hateful documents? For the record: A bad or evil doctrine can be developed from a perfectly good document. In turn, that twisted doctrine can (but doesn't necessarily) influence how that document develops over time. I think Eyes is saying that the "document" that we call the Bible isn't necessarily the same document it was at it's inception. Furthermore, I think she's also saying that erroneous doctrine has played in both wrong interpretation and twisting of the original document. I'm sure she'll correct me if I'm wrong. On another note... It always amazes me how a belief system based on "love God and love your neighbor as yourself" deteriorates into name-calling and mudslinging under the guise of "standing for Gawd/ the Truth/"or whatever self-righteous drivel meets one's fancy. Frankly, this smacks of ego and insensitivity. So what? Here we sit - some of us 30 years after walking from an abusive cult and there are some that have become precisely what they claim to hate. Some deliverance - huh? I'd say THAT shows how evil and insidious a doctrine can be - except around here we tend to call it "Waybrain." And for the record, I'm NOT pointing fingers at anyone. If you say I've accused you- you're either mistaken or lying. Period. I haven't named even one name or even thought about any one poster while typing this. I guess I'm disgusted with the whole mess. So if the shoe/dress/closet/suit/flippers - whatever - fit then so be it. That's on you, not me. I've been guilty of being overly aggressive myself and I've had to take a large step back and realize that sometimes the only way to win is to walk.

I know that town! (Just as a visitor though.) Here's one of my favorite buildings in my home town, The Chrysler Building:

U-2 One Love:

Heh heh heh..Attack of the Killer Tomatoes:

Night Line?

First sentence from the first link: Uhhhh... you think?

Okay, given the discussion on other threads (THREE! count them 3!) I decided to post this painting by Michelangelo - The Holy Family with John the Baptist (the Dono Tondi) This next link has an interesting description of the geometry behind the composition of this piece. Scroll down the page til you find the painting in question and run your cursor over the painting. It's kinda neat. Here Notice the naked men on the horizon? The horizontal line on the star runs right through their... ummm... pelvic areas should we say...? How weird must that have been? This link also tries to explain the presence of a row of naked men on the horizon line: But this seems like speculation to me. It's not like anyone interviewed Michelangelo and asked him why he did that. Remember, this was the Renaissance. The Church owned and paid for everything at that time and Michelangelo certainly found many a benefactor behind the Vatican's walls. I have found that very seldom are the interpreters of art even close when it comes to trying to explain symbolism in a work. And is it just me or does Mary look like Rosie the Riveter in a gown? I mean, just look at her upper arms. This isn't the typical Virgin Mary of the Renaissance - or any age for that matter. In fact, Joseph doesn't look like the young man we read about. This is clearly a painting where Michelangelo painted what he wanted to paint and used a theme that was popular to frame it all.

It wasn't only the "just wanna thank you" prayers. It was the endless, drone with the "just/father" one-two prayer. "I just want to thank you father for just blessing each and everyone of us here father. Father,I just claim just a hedge of protection around each of us here, father and just take care of us all, father. Just ...father just...father... just..." "inthenameofjesuschristamen"

Those masks are pretty cool. They don't look comfortable - but they do look very sculptural. I couldn't see the donkey mask - but the other's were quite nice. Thanks.

Happy day Bow. Hope it's everything you want and more.

No problem. I *think* Guernica was a reaction to what Picasso had read about and the photos he had seen. Apparently destruction like this had never been experienced before. If that painting evokes strong emotions in you - then on some level Picasso succeeded in communicating his horror. In a way that's why Rivera and Kahlo are good follow-up artists to look at - they too got their inspiration from the politics in their country. You know, there really aren't any rules on this thread... anyone can go back and talk about any of the art or post something new.

That's Diego Rivera! I really like his work! I must admit to also liking his wife Freida Kahlo's work as well. ...Though I don't think I could live with her work, I still enjoy looking at it. But there is a lot of her personal pain in her paintings.

Three Doors Down - Not My Time:

I see what you're saying George. Picasso once said: “It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child” Pablo Picasso's father was a formal university teacher and started teaching him at the age of 7. Picasso learned by copying the Masters and using plaster busts as models. By the age of eleven Picasso did indeed paint much like Raphael. Perhaps that is why he tried to hard to go back to the simplicity of childlike drawings. The more I read about him the more I see him seeking to communicate more and more with less and less. I may not like or even admire the finished product all the time - but I do have a certain admiration for the chances he took.

Back to art... Here are some pictures that show Picasso's way of simplifying things

Thanks for posting that art George and Lindy. I really love Japanese woodblock prints. I've done a few woodblocks - and the detail in these pieces is truly amazing. The blocks themselves are works of art. Then add to all that detail some masterful watercolor... I'm going to take a liberty and post some work by Picasso: Guernica In this case, knowing the history surrounding this piece really helps: And here is some more of what Picasso was dealing with on a more personal level: The link to the above quote has got a lot more information if you click on the small "paintings."

Congrats to you Sushi!

Definition of Contentious

I once heard someone say that twi had become just another religion.

Rules? We don't need no stinking rules! I was just pretending to stay "on task." I once read (or heard that Pollock was painting and dropped a cig in his paint while... dropping paint ... and he decided "It works!." I'm pretty jaded in this area of art history...

Well George, I'd have to agree with you to a certain extent. My comment about the painting making me feel nervous... I picture myself having to paint that painting. (Forget about the BS and the paint dropped on the floor...) It feels like I'd have to be high on three day old coffee and just buzzing big time to paint that piece. The brush strokes are almost manic to me. Some people like that sense of energy - but for me it's way, way, way too much. I get a mind picture of some mad-artist running at his canvas and slinging paint in wild fashion only to lie exhausted on the studio floor when it is all done.

Okay - Since his name came up in that quote from The Painted Word, I'll post a painting by Wilhelm deKooning. Warning! I don't like this artist myself. But I thought I'd put this out there to see what attention tit draws: Two Trees on Mary Street: I don't like it. It makes me feel very nervous. Like I've had too much coffee and taken a bottle of No-Doz. I could not live with it. Feel free to comment but I'd actually like to hear from someone that likes this piece. It's always interesting to me when I hear someone describe a work that I don't like but they do. That doesn't mean that you can't say you don't like it - I'm just hoping to draw in some of the Modern Art lovers into this thread.

Okay Art: "La Gioconda" AKA "The Mona Lisa" I like it - but don't love it. I've grown up admiring this painting. Oddly enough, I'm more drawn to her hands than I am to her face. Even though most people focus on her enigmatic look, I've always admired how peaceful her hands look. I could live with it. I feel fairly peaceful when I look at this painting. I won't even begin to broach all the various and sundry theories about the subject of this painting. (Which run the gamut from "Lisa Gherardini, wife of Francesco del Giocondo" to the theory that this is really a self-portrait of sorts. Supposedly DaVinci painted himself - as a woman.)