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Templelady, there were two questions there - which one does the "nope" refer to?

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. I Corinthians 6:9 & 10 (KJV) So I'm not the chewiest cookie in the jar - but I didn't see the word, "hell" in there anywhere. Isn't it possible that we don't understand it all? Does "shall not inherit the kingdom of God" have to equal "going to hell?" Remember back in Genesis when the serpent told Eve "thou shall not surely die" but God had said, "on the day thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. (paraphrased for your listening pleasure :) )" For years, generations many said that God must've been wrong - or mistaken and that the serpent was right and called God's bluff. These (cited above) will not inherit the kingdom of God - what ever that means. (BTW a drunkard is much different from one who has a few drinks.) It doesn't necessarily follow that these will enter the gates of hell. I can think of a possible explanation (Not an exception) - but this thread is not about that = it is about whether or not we will add a word, change a word, omit a word - or say,"That is the Word. er, um "It is written." Good night and good luck. belle may I join you on the couch now? - I have peanut m&m's! Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. I Corinthians 6:9 & 10 (KJV) So I'm not the chewiest cookie in the jar - but I didn't see the word, "hell" in there anywhere. Isn't it possible that we don't understand it all? Does "shall not inherit the kingdom of God" have to equal "going to hell?" Remember back in Genesis when the serpent told Eve "thou shall not surely die" but God had said, "on the day thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. (paraphrased for your listening pleasure :) )" For years, generations many said that God must've been wrong - or mistaken and that the serpent was right and called God's bluff. These (cited above) will not inherit the kingdom of God - what ever that means. (BTW a drunkard is much different from one who has a few drinks.) It doesn't necessarily follow that these will enter the gates of hell. I can think of a possible explanation (Not an exception) - but this thread is not about that = it is about whether or not we will add a word, change a word, omit a word - or say,"That is the Word. er, um "It is written." Good night and good luck. belle may I join you on the couch now? - I have peanut m&m's!

Go, rhino!

You know, WTH, you're pretty quick to say things about people that you don't even know. I never asked for a quick or easy answer from Mike. As a matter of fact, I believe that for him to really get this message of his out that it will take considerable time - even MORE so if he persists in this cat and mouse game of bantering about and around the subject. I think that asking for a research paper isn't asking for a lot. A thesis paper can lend a lot of credibility to his voice. Also, without the constant interruption of each and every detail being debated and debunked, Mike could "have his say." I don't own these books anymore. if I even could Buy them I'm not sure I'd want to - as things stand now. WHY should I even find out if they are possible to buy? I have not been given any evidence other than some guy I only know as "Mike" ( which may or may not really be his name and not just a handle) says that he has "seen some things" that even when he purports to expound on even a little bit are so clouded with speculation and debate that what he says is "clear as day" is in actuality as opaque and mud. So, WTh, what made YOU believe that the book you hold and call the Bible is the Word of God and is God-breathed? What's your answerto Mike's question?

"Collateral?"

your first guess is correct the second and third clue are really one - consider HOW MANY of the same kind they are

Groucho - this statement takes on new meaning with your avatar right beside it.

Mike - now its your turn....

When I googled "man" this was the photo that was the smallest and under it it said"Man Ray" because he was the photgrapher Now reconsider the first pic - think synonym - kinda

Forget his name, forget his "job" In the most Basic sense of the word - what is he?

Mike, I believe that God's will is readily available through the Bible. As for how I know it is the God-breathed "Word Of GOD" ( I know it isn't all original text.) I remember in PFAL when vpw showed how a word or phrase repeated and it just fit. I remember the word "artios" and it made total sense to me. The big thing for me was "four Crucified. Now I know that many refute that teaching - and I'm not getting into it - but that was a big deal to me. Basically, I have always believed - from my first class that even though we only have various translations from many many manuscripts of different ages - that God's Word was maintained because GOD watches over His Word. My visual analogy was that it was like a giant 10.000 piece puzzle. Even if I lost a few pieces the shape of that piece would be apparent because of the hole that was left by the pieces that I did have. In the same way = the unknown is made apparent by the known and the proven truth. Isn't this how vpw started? The same is true for God's word. My point is that if what you are saying is really true. If the Pfal collaterals truly are the WORD of God it would fit with the Bible we hold in our hands - Just like Matthew fits with the OT and the writings of Peter fit with the writings of Micah. you should be able to show the accuracy - mathematical exactness and scientific precision. Also, if it really is the word of God - PFAL should be profitable for anyone's learning - regardless of whether or not they are and OLG . So you should be looking for all who would listen to your message - Just like Paul went from preaching to Israel only to preaching to the Gentiles as well. ( Granted that was under God's directive.) Without the Bible that you cast aside as not being the Word of God - because of the lack of originals, PFAL has no guts, no foundation, no hook to hang its hat on. Besides, VPW worked with this book, so you should not be so quick to cast it aside - just because of the very nature of "your message." IMHO you have yet to show me anything that leads me to believe that I should listen to your message. Vpw was able to get even atheists to begin to take a look at the Bible. I am not rejecting your message because it involves PFAL - I do not accept it because it still has no moving, overwhelming, compelling truth for me to grasp and pursue. You keep wanting to argue points that require me to go against everything that I believe and that I wholeheartedly believe that I was taught. I have dropped some things from PFAL - but the research principles are sound. Mainly I have not dropped the concept that the Bible holds God's word and God's truth - the truth more precious than diamonds and gold.

don't think about who the guy is - think WHAT he is..... this is a bit more crytic than my ususal - I figured that the easier ones were getting you guys mad at me I'll give more clues as you ask for them

Ckmkeon - being judgemental isn't the same as being observant. we are to be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves." Judgemental refers to passing judgement and making someone "pay" as if there is an account that they have built up. The Greek word ( I'll look it up later) is very similiar to the concept of a record book that an accountant would keep. So. to be judgemental is to keep an account of one's wrongs - a leger, if you will. An observation - or even an opinion - is not being judgemental. God never ever expects us to go into anything with our eyes closed and not thinking. When Jesus said the Pharisees were like " their father - the father of lies (paraphrased)" he wasn't judging them - he was "calling a spade a spade." So, if someone acts in an "insane" manner - it is fair to say that this person was insane. In this culture - most of us realize that we aren't talking about some true mental illness - but of illogical actions, even insane actions.

AAAAAAAAAA

When? I'll be there if I can - but since I work and have kids to get to school I might not be there for long

It was just dumb luck. I happened to come in for lunch and it all made sense - I guess I'm getting george's vibes... I'll post later tonight - gotta run now...and I have to think of a movie. Darn!

"Manchurian Candidate"

Suuuuuuurrreee he didddddd.....yea that's the ticket. yea, God spoke to Vp and then He came and told me to hide my eggs so that the Easter Bunny would get them before Santa gave then to the leprachauns .... R.i.. i.. i.. ghtttt.....

Toppie - I think its yours we must've all posted at the same time. I didn't see any of the others conversations.. must be the settings I have. I dont' mind going - but its not my time to go - and the choice is Geo's

I don't "do" T-shirts! I'll just write "GSC" on my forehead.LOL Hey tonto!

"Shakespeare in Love"

very good! I think this man has it!

Hey Tom and Tonto - if-n ya'll get together in foat wuth I wanna be there too please - pretty please

Where was the advice???? I looked at the post and didn't find any. why not get back to the topic and quit the squirmishes - you're derailing your own thread.. just some advice...