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WordWolf - I'm not getting the message about the "right way" to criticize here at all. Neither do I see a message that all critics are wrong. I really see the emphasis on the person striving- common sense might dictate to me that it takes a certain mentality to properly criticize and do it productively - but I'm not getting that from this quote. I get that because I've lived a bit.... Or - did I just step in one of those discussions that have carried over from another thread? I hate when I do that! I'd be interested to see the break where only half the quote was used. I mean, unless you stop at "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. " I think the point is made pretty quickly.

Ok - the couple is...... another "word" for kids is....

The point is not that athletics are a great endeavor. As I read this quote, it points to the effort given as opposed to the "ease" of criticizing. This quote applies to so many more areas of life than sports. I can name at least a dozen off the top of my head. There are some things that build people and cement souls because of the team spirit, the sense of a shared effort, the look in the eyes of these folks when they see each other and "just know" that they got the job done. Now, I realize that the quote says nothing about teams. But it does point to that spirit. A critic can stay on the sidelines and just do nothing but criticize. A doer of deeds has to get in there and work - frequently with others just like him or her. I'm reminded of a quote by Shakespeare....I'll try to post it soon.

Ahem.... (clears throat) Mi, mi, mi, mi-i-i-i-i.... Happy, happy birthday From all of us to you...... If you know the words sing a long!......

Abi - there's a book about called, "Raising the Gifted Child." It does describe many of the same things that Rocky and Krys have been talking about, along with the issues you have cited.

I think Tom's holding out on us!

Indeed I do! I have a party to attend tonight - but I'll post that recipe and more tomorrow. Now, make no mistake about it, Chicken Fried Steak in NOT my idea of "mighty fine eatin'" - but the Texans sure seem to love it 'round these parts.

By George, I think I've got it.. Rain Dirk Ames Reindeer Games I never saw or heard of the movie, so I had to double check to see if that title belonged to a movie - but I got the title first.

In light of how much we scream around here about citing sources, why would anyone want to use an "encyclopedia' that has no pedigree? In other words, no bibliography or any other means of verifying information. If I'm not mistaken, there isn't even a list of contributors. I eschew the site.

Man Oh man those burritos are finding their way out!

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Cloud/ dark dirk ames

Ok Ok - didn't know who PP was - just knew it wasn't the initials CG

A smart woman will never ask that question... Hey Guys! "There's your sign!"

Ok so you want to get REAL HONEST?! He has to have a p*nis. (LOL) I'll put up with a lot in a guy if he's honest. And contrary to popular opinion, I do mean honest. I once found out that my husband knew that something didnt' look good on me and didn't say so. That bothered me a lot. I think most women want a good balance of someone they can be natural with (along with the guy being himself as well) as well as a man that allows a few fantasies to push through to the surface every now and again. (Yes there are guys that do that.) Why do good men and women get passed up? Who knows? Answer that and I bet Jesus will let you sit at the right hand of God for a couple of hours. Yes. both parties need to be themselves and feel at ease being natural. Each of us has different things that make us feel at ease and natural. I think that's what many of the women are describing here. Looks fade and change. Character counts for a lot. I really never look at looks - never have. Give me a guy that is comfortable in his own skin and lets me be comfortable in my skin, add some chemisty, and then see what happens.

My best garden ever had horseradish growing in it. A friend gave me a few pieces of the stuff to plant and OH MY did it take off! Now I mostly plant herbs. Now for regional food.... In Texas: Chicken Fried Steak with Biscuits and Gravy - this can be good or it can be awful - depends on the preparation of the meat. I've had it so tough you can't chew it and so tender it melts in your mouth. Tex-Mex ( I dont' count it tho) Then there's the sloppy BBQ that is so popular down here. Fried Okra or Pickled Okra In New York: Hmmmmm - I lived in NYC so I lived in the midst of that huge melting pot. All I can say is that on Christmas Eve we had a huge meal that was a fish meal. We were Catholic, and Chrtistmas Eve was considered a day of fasting - so if you wanted to eat meat - well you had to eat it after Midnight - and some families in Italy still do that. We always had a huge dinner that started with a red sauce that was made with scalllops, clams, and other fish, over linguine. That was followed by Lobster, salad, bread (the GOOD crusty kind - not that excuse for bread that gets sold in way too many places) Dessert was usually forgone since we ate about 9pm. After dinner, Dad would always slip downstairs to the his apartment and then call SCREAMING for us to go down because Santa was there! We always made a mad dash down some dangerous marble stairways. When the call came for us to return to Grandma's apt - where the majority of the gifts were, we ran back upstairs to find a room transformed into a Christmas wonderland - and the window over the fire escape was always left open to show that Santa had just left. (Dang! We always seemed to just miss him by mere seconds..) Ok so I got off topic here. Seems that part of the New York/Italian food thing is the memories that get renewed along with the meals.

Now wait a minutte! Here's the line up of pics.... Dame Judy Detch/ M Fonzi/ AAAA! Asterisk (A) Superman (S) Asterisk (A) Age(s), generations, woman/ girls I can kinda see it but its a real stretch......especially with the that wing-hatted dude

I agree with everything Cowgirl said. Annnnddddd.... HE HAS TO BE A GOOD KISSER! I can tell a lot about a guy by the way he kisses. Ok, now I have to be nice again......maybe

What did I miss? How does this follow the current flow of this thread?

Sushi - agreed. I'm not arguing that he deserves this. It just doesn't go well with the plea for him to come and face his accusers. Not saying he's right. Not saying he would come here anyway and intelligently dialogue. Apparently I'm not good at getting my point across. I"ll be serving cheesecake and apple pie in the corner soon......

BTW - Mr Hammeroni - I agree with the public scrutiny. It needs to be done. That's why I called for addressing the salient points in the letter - even the lack of mentioning God's guidance should be discussed. We are a group of intelligent folks here with some amazing insight - do we really want it lost in the mud?

Not only "Never engage in public debate. Never debate the facts - debate the audience and keep giving out your message. I am not so naive as to believe that a thread can be controlled - nor should it be. I was just suggesting some ways to approach this subject. I have no intention of calling JAL on the phone - one phone call from that man in one lifetime was quite enough, thank you. Just remember that if you make an environment hostile - you can't really complain if a person doesn't want to visit. Maybe I should just go back to my corner.....

Perhaps this is a good lesson in learning to pick one's battles. I don't read these threads very much because they seen to be about 5 pages of arguing and gossip to every one page of informative posts and good points made. I understand inserting some humor and making some comments - but what would be the motivation of anyone to come onto a board, enter a hostile situation, and then have every word picked apart. IMHO - if that is all you want to do - then just copy the letter, mark it all in red ink with your comments and corrections and innuendos, then just snail mail the thing to JAL. Suppose "we" take the salient points of the letter and deal with them. I have yet to read the whole thing just because I lost interest. However, you get someone to break the letter down into the major points, talk about the substance of the letter; then move on. I know that its a lot more fun to ridicule JAL -and if that's what you want to do - fine. Just don't then turn around and complain that he's not taking the GSC community seriously. May I suggest that if you really want to engage him in a dialogue, that you start a separate thread for all the nasty comments to JAL (JAL Love HIm or Hate Him? Here's Your Chance) and then leave a thread like this open for serious dialogue. Sheeeeeeeeesh! You're all smarter than this.