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That's a great analogy RumRunner. I have to admit that my mind was more in tune with the rebellion of the students, than the words of the poem. I feel like standing on a desk and shouting on a regular basis. (And NOT because I'm short, either. :) )

So back to the original question - is GSC viable? I think as long as there are people still in TWI and looking for answers - GSC or a similar site will be viable. That said. I understand that this place isn't easy to manage. It's a site of ex-culties in various stages of recovery - ranging from early to complete recovery. We were part of a cult that dictated every move and every thought we made (or at least attempted to do so.) Is it any surprise that we are a community of folks who resist being told what to do, say or think? The arguments and debates are part of life - and certainly part of ex-cult life. If you need to move on Paw, I'm sure no one here will fault you for doing so. As far as us all getting along - well it isn't going to happen. For some reason the following video reminds me of the kind of rebellion that many of us have had to find post-TWI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8UL_9R_W-Y

O Captain! My Captain! O CAPTAIN! my Captain! our fearful trip is done; The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won; The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting, While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring: But O heart! heart! heart! 5 O the bleeding drops of red, Where on the deck my Captain lies, Fallen cold and dead. O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells; Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills; 10 For you bouquets and ribbon’d wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding; For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning; Here Captain! dear father! This arm beneath your head; It is some dream that on the deck, You’ve fallen cold and dead. My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still; My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will; The ship is anchor’d safe and sound, its voyage closed and done; From fearful trip, the victor ship, comes in with object won; Exult, O shores, and ring, O bells! But I, with mournful tread, Walk the deck my Captain lies, Fallen cold and dead. ~Walt Whitman~

Ummm... okay. I've been reading and doing my very best to NOT post on this thread. But now I really have to disagree with you Abi. If I started a website devoted to recipes, or art, or even internet porn then you could say that it isn't a splinter group. BUT - the purpose of the Way Corps site (and yes I have been there and yes I have left) is to re-group and re-connect with other Corps. Each person there has their own little blog and many, many of them are selling their new religious wares. It's a splinter group of the Way Corps, NOT a splinter group of GSC. Frankly, I'm surprised that you, who are advocating not talking about things we don't know, would take it on yourself to talk about a site you have never visited.

All I Want For Christmas...

Santana ~ "Song of the Wind" This is really good, BTW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj0zGxDxXVM

Faith Hill - "Breathe" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw4aFNg3MSM

Here is the ad from the bottom of the page after all the talk about working for free: Puppets for sale... seems oddly appropriate in a creepy way given the present discussion.

Tony Bennett and Diana Krall - Alright, Okay, You Win http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ8Jl9_H7gc

Someone can take my turn - I won't be able to post for another day or so

:o How do they keep the bottle of Jack from cracking on the BBQ grill?

Day-O! Dayyyyyy O!

Do Brits BBQ?

Be kind to the people behind the counter this holiday season.

The Frat - Over My Head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpiEEl_5pmA

Oh good gawd people... no more "loaf" analogies! (I know, I know I did it too....but I'm an idiot!) Why in the hell JAL would keep conjuring up the spectre of something he himself deemed as dead is beyond logic. Unless ... you consider the fact that he maybe has found enough sheep lost in the wrong pasture still looking for their missing pastor.

Here's a quote that a friend sent me. This came in an email after I heard about a book I plan on reading called The Open Mind Linky-poo The timing was perfect and I thought some of you fine folks might have some thoughts - either about this quote or something similar that inspires you.

Who wants a whole moldy loaf?

*Runs back to the shelf and grabs another book.* Praline Pumpkin Tart 1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour 1 Tbsp granulated sugar 3/4 tsp salt, divided 1/4 cup vegetable shortening 1/4 cup butter or margarine 2 to 4 Tbsp cold water 1 can (13 oz) evaporated milk (1 1/2 cups) 2 eggs 2/3 cup packed brown sugar 1 tsp ground cinnamon 1/2 tsp ground ginger 1/4 tsp ground cloves Praline Topping Sweetened Whipped Cream Additional cinnamon and pecans for garnish. (Steps 1 through 3 can be eliminated if you prefer to use pie crust from the refrigerated section of your grocery store. Make sure you get a crust for a 9" pie.) 1. For crust, combine flour, granulated sugar and 1/4 tsp salt in large bowl. Cut in shortening and butter using pastry blender or 2 knives until mixture forms pea-sized pieces. 2. Sprinkle flour mixture with water, 1Tbsp at a time. Toss with fork until mixture holds together. Press together to form a ball. Wrap in plastic wrap. Refrigerate about 1 hour or until chilled. 3. Remove plastic wrap. Flatten dough into 5" - 6" disc. Lightly flour surface and rolling pin. Roll dough in short strokes starting in the middle of the disc rolling out toward the edge using rolling pin. Rotate dough 1/4 turn to the right. Sprinkle more flouir under dough and on rolling pin as necessary to prevent sticking. Contimue to roll and rotate dough 2 to 3 more times. Roll out dough to 1/8-inch thickness. 4. Trim dough to 1" larger than inverted 10" tart pan with removable bottom or 1 1/2 inches larger than inverted 9' pie plate. Place rolling pin on one side of dough. Gently roll dough over rolling pin once. 5. Carefully lift rolling pin and dough, unrolling dough over tart pan. Ease dough into tart pan with fingertips. Do not stretch dough. Cut dough even with edge of tart pan. (Roll and flute edge of dough in pie plate.) 6. Cover tart crust with plastic wrap and refrigerate 30 minutes to relax dough. 7. Preheat oven to 400*F. 8. To blind bake tart crust, pierce tart crust with tines of fork at 1/4" intervals, about 40 times. 9. Cut a square of foil about 4" larger than tart pan. Line tart pan with foil. Fill with dried beans, uncooked rice or ceramic pie weights. 10. Bake 10 minutes or until set. Remove from oven. Gently remove foil lining and beans. Return to oven and bake 5 minute or until very light brown. Cool completely on wire rack. (If using beans or rice, save to use again for blind baking. They are no longer usable in recipes.) 11. For filling, preheat oven to 400*F Beat pumpkin, milk, eggs, brown sugar, 1tsp cinnamon, remaining 1/2 tsp of salt, ginger and cloves in large bowl with electric mixer at low speed. Pour into cooled tart crust. Bake 35 minutes. 12. Prepare Praline Topping. Sprinkle topping over center of tart leaving 1 1/2" rim around edge of tart. 13. Bake 15 minutes more or until knife inserted 1" from center comes out clean. 14. Cool completely on wire rack. Prepare Sweetened Whipped Cream and spoon into decorating bag with fluted tip. Piple whipped cream around edge of tart making decorative edge. Sprinkle additional cinnamon over whipped cream. Garnish with pecan halves. Praline Topping 1/3 cup packed brown sugar 1/3 cup chopped pecans 1/3 cup uncooked quick-cooking oats 1Tbsp butter or margarine, softened Place sugar, pecans and oats in small bowl. Cut in butter with pastry blender or 2 knives until crumbs form. Sweetened Whipped Cream 1 cup heavy cream 2 Tbsp powdered sugar 1/2 tsp vanilla Chill large bowl, beaters and cream thoroughly. Place cream, sugar and vanilla into chilled bowl and beat with electric mixer at high speed until soft peaks form. To test, lift beaters from whipping cream; mixture should have droopy, but definite peaks. Do not overbeat. Refrigerate. Makes about 2 cups.

It could reveal arrogance. It could also point to a desperate need to constantly prop one's self up. Think of a small child in a room full of adults - jumping as high as he can to get some attention. If the jumping doesn't work, it's time to climb some furniture. After all, if JAL keeps lauding his roots to the sky, doesn't he in turn also give himself a higher starting point than "his competitors." (Think about that same child shouting, "My foundation is higher than your's! I can get higher and do it faster.) And he went one step further and showed anyone who would sit still where his mentor erred.

Hot Tuna

I'm so sorry Twinky. I've been so much busier than I anticipated. *runs to the bookshelf to get her recipes* Nannie's Pumpkin Bread Mix: 3 Cups sugar 1 Cup oil 4 eggs, beaten after each addtion Mix and sift together: 3 Cups flour 1 1/2 tsp nutmeg 1 tsp allspice 2 tsp baking soda 1/2 tsp salt 2 Cups (1 can) solid pack pumpkin 1 Tbsp vanilla 1 Cup pecans (optional) 1 pkg chopped dates (optional) Add dry ingredients to egg mixture. *Note - when I ate this, the cook did not include the pecans and dates - and it was delicious!* Spray either 2 large or 3 medium loaf pans, or one Bundt pan with Pam (A non-stick cooking spray) Bake at 350* F Lg pans - 45-50 min med pans - 37-45 min Bundt pan - 1 hr Cool completely before removing from bans.

Thanks Bow... sometimes I get it right.

I hope the memories are good.

Yeah... but you're not quiet now! That's what matters! Keep on making some noise! :dance: :dance: Should we all wave? :wave: :wave: