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In CFF web site they have a video: "A call to India, Marcho 2005" http://www.cffm.org/doc/2005india_presentation.shtml, is like the old VPW trip to India. In it appears John Shroyer. In the internet just exist TWI splinters web sites but no TWI International Outreach countries.
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I found this link to the Way in India, it said that it is from Joseph Vedras –Way Corps 1986-1991. In TWM of sep/October 1981 TWI coordinator for India was Sangat Bains but in the May/June magazine of 2001 They Just recognize work in this countries Angola, Argentina; Australia, Belgium, Benin, Canada, Cile, Colombia, Congo, Cote dÍvoire, Democratic Republic of the Congo (Zaire), Dominican Republic, El Salvador, France, -Gabon, Germany, Guam, Italy, Mexico, New Zeland, Niger, Peru, Philipines, Portugal, Saint Lucia, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, United Kingdom, U.S. Virgin Islands, Venezuela. But not India. http://wayindia.org
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Does VPW sex doctrine continue to be practiced by Geer´s Splinters?
themex replied to themex's topic in About The Way
Lint to vpw free teachings by Eduardo Di noto (9 Corps) http://www.palabrasobreelmundo.com.ar/Dr.html http://www.palabrasobreelmundo.com.ar/Dr.html -
Does VPW sex doctrine continue to be practiced by Geer´s Splinters?
themex replied to themex's topic in About The Way
I found a "Christian forum" in Spanish in which they talk about TWI, some said that they are very blessed for the doctrine taught by VPW and RC and that RC is the man of god, the same as LCM but in south America, they use the mark and about thing to maintain control, and promote sex for the poor man of God can be concentrated. Is really weird because the do not know what had happened with TWI during the last 25 years. Maybe they think that VPW is alive running the ministry up until today. Also they do not know who is LCM. Hi, and happy new year for all. -
Jal's most recent email (12/27/2009)
themex replied to Tzaia's topic in Spirit and Truth Fellowship International
This is sad and is the real never ending story. But is a free world. Happy new year for all. -
Ah, okey. thank you.
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Hi... Did the really dismiss him (JL)? Do to that old revelation and about his second wife?
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I am with you oldiesman, one thing is one thing, and the other is the other.
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Matthew 13:24-30 (New International Version) The Parable of the Weeds 24Jesus told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. 27"The owner's servants came to him and said, 'Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?' 28" 'An enemy did this,' he replied. "The servants asked him, 'Do you want us to go and pull them up?' 29" 'No,' he answered, 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' "
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I agree with oldiesman the main problem was not the administrations but VPW. Also Jesus Christ made us free (Romans 10:9 and 10) and nothing changes that, and TWI teaches us to live the Word, to not sin. Also sex out marriage was confronted in many categories, also from LCM, he confronted the teens that had sex during the Rock of Ages 94 and during the Rock 95 every body was watching to avoid this sin. Many way followers did not know about what really happened with Chris Geer, why they were confronting the board of trusties of that time. For example we in Mexico Just know that the ministry has divided because the Board was not living the word. Just that, no more explanations. What opens the problem was the Internet and LCM sues. WayDayle, Greasespot and also John Lynn Letter. John Schoenheit paper. VPW thought that you can have rightly dividing of the word in one category and be wrong in other. The baby and the bath water of John Lynn. We can not dismiss all TWI theology just because VPW was devil spirit possessed, or Bullinger and Leonard and the other were also sexual predators? No. Rosie Riverbark was just as close to VPW as LCM. But we do not know if she has sex with him or with LCM or with other, or if she promotes these things. We know that she confront LCM about that. Or maybe she does and thats why she has now more guy in the board to meet theír sexual needs and live TWI sex doctrine.
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Very good Doctor, I like it. Very direct, but also very hard for us. Because you do not give an opportunity to the Way theology. Is bad a very bad theology.
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The books by John Lynn, John Schoenheit & Mark G. http://stfonlinestore.com/index.asp?PageAc...&Category=3 The Book by Larry Panarello. The True Justice of a Just God: Discovering God's Redemptive Plan for Mankind The book by Chris Geer Walking in God's Power at amazon.co.uk The Advanced Class on Power for Abundant Living (Paperback)
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Why are all splinter groups "teaching ministries?"
themex replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
The main problem is the doctrine the rightly dividing of God´s Word, the commitment to It is written! And that you help the people giving them the Word the they have to believe. In my first foundational class one of the other students was a diabetic homeless woman who ask for money at the door of the catholic church of the neigbourghood a very poor one. She has no legs. She really was in bad conditions, dirty, the class did not change her life she dies a few months later. But she born again. And now she is waiting the return of Jesus Christ.