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yeah but I see alot of marriages like that. even outside the way. they scare me.

Im single for twenty five years, no live in, no maybe, lots of men friends only single guys. ok that being said as I have watched this unfold i have this to say. marriage is to much for me. I think it is a complex thing marriage and honestly I have not seen one I would like for my life, I have seen "happy" marriages I always see compromise from male and female. it is needed I think. what attracts women to men that define the title of this thread? they do not all do 180's and change into creatures you do not know, you married them with those type of traits. Im not blaming the victim I just do not understand how woman can always play the victim in these marriages. I see many women who have these type of exspectations form men then complain when it goes to far in their estimation. that is the part I do not get. I understand a "macho" man from the initial meeting, guy or girls into control rarely change their feathers, but it isnt something that a person grows into it is a type of personality thing. love is blind I understand that I really do as the saying is love is blind so that means both people made a mistake. I know women who like those types of relationships . I saw so many failed marriages in twi divorce never bothered them so I doubt it had little or anything to do with what twi feltmarriage was/is. they didnt esteem marriage like many churches do. I feel sorry for the woman who had such misery in marriage I also feel sorry for many men I saw abused and used in twi by women in the name of God.

Im also chas for your misery, your right it is no way to live. yet try to tell somone caught up in the lifestyle that it can be better. I have and im the cold bitter one alone without the love of God. I do not have a solution but I know it is better in many situations to sit by and watch that type of mess than try to change it before the partner believes life can be better. I do not get the why . but I see these types of relationships plenty outside of the way as well. somone please tell me what you get out of being in love like that please.

you FREAK!!! OMG im to old for this stuff

That is where I run into trouble as well ex10. The answer for me is fleeting as well but it has something to do with the difference between trusting and having Faith. On his dealing with adversary tape Mrk G. gave one answer and I quote "maybe you just didnt organize your life enough" as a possible reason we face adversity. I felt like I had been hit by a train, when I heard that. no hope.. again it goes back to the magic thinking religous folks engage in, like looking for a rainbow the answer must be quick and simple and magical in the sense something spectacular must be in the works. if only we knew the "right and correct" formula. I admit to such thinking as a christian, at times. partial grace, conditional grace, sometimes grace... many churches espouse such theory. We live in the very grace of God and that concept is so NOT how we tend to think as humans who want to strive to succeed and please God. We want to have the ability to be like God to own a part of who and What He must be in our life, we seek to save our self, and in the trying of all these "hopes and dreams and deeds and what do I do now?" deny the Saviour in all of what He Completed for mankind. Again look at a small child as Jesus says we are to find HIM, do they strive and worry or even think about what the next need must be or to do? no they do not they enjoy the company and rely on the Father to meet all the needs of his soul every minute day by day, knowing full well if they do not listen he/she will be protected and safe. that is the love of God that is the grace and the life Jesus says we are to strive for. God asks us to grow up but somehow when we do, we forget how to trust, how to love without fear and most of all why life is indeed so wonderful. Foe me it is because of the Grace, not sometimes not partial but the utter complete full disclosure of the very Grace we all live in .

I know anyone I have spoken to that has DSL or a faster connection would never go back to dial up. on DSL it takes seconds( if that )to your 1/2 hour download. whether it is worth it would be up to you. Im dial up it is fine for me, if I had a faster connection I may have worse problem than I do with time wasted on this machine. I like the game sites and the fact it takes so much time helps me think about what IM doing, If I could do games in a second oh no better not go there. I keep a cell phone so the dial up is no problem . but I do not want to try DSL might get the fever every one speaks of ya know a little taste and...

I do not think you can "know" as in really get and live what the bible says unless you have a personal relationship with the Lord. really I know of plenty of folks who can spew the bible verses and I feel no love in them I cant relate to their lack of compassion or the "fellowship" we are suppose to have with one another. jesus wants us to love one another and if we get so academic we shun one another over what a book says we may be in big trouble. Jesus asks us to come to Him as little children, Little children do NOT have the ability to memorize or have huge amounts of facts and figures about the bible in their head. do they? yet that is the type of worship the Lord says is to be an example. l

Ever read the bible? not the few little new testimony verse here and there in a class . I read it like a text book. Ever read of the life style and calamity and down right HORROR many of the storys tell of people and their life? I agree with that statement actualy, somewhat. the bible speaks of every thing we could ever face, the problem is who gets to pick and chose which testimony fits our own particular situation or circumstance? I want to be moses who wants to be a judas tody? I do not recieve anything evil from my God and plenty of evil stories of murder and mayhem in the bible. betrayal serious pain and lifes full of deep profound hurt sadness and everything negative. I would not have had to live the way Jesus did in His ministry quite miserable and betrayed and then murdered and that was only 3 years of it or so. l

If I read it right Sunesis thinks is is easier to trust God than believe. The demanding of God was easier, just thank Him for the red drapes and have full and complete control of the situation and be so powerful and right and better than the rest of the people. It was a game as well how many kept silent on our true desires and wishes or needs , hurt for help because it was embarassing to say you had a cold or an illness and by the believing you had better be better the next day or your an UNBELIVER. no one wanted people to say that. so I often just wouldnt metion any problem . horray God found me the perfect coffee maker at the garage sale but we wont metion the fact the marriage is falling apart or Im lonely, frightened or any other human feeling, I know they will tell me I need to sit through pfal AGAIN. it created the secret circle where only those who could handle it would ever have true felowship (or truth ) with one another. way corps and clergy had horrid things happen to them and their children were often stressed and unhappy having to move and make new friends, but if they did NOT appear as the blessed family from God who would take the class then huh? I know one way corps gal who had several miscarrages in a row, no problem for her I guess, I mean she held the class four times that year in her apartment . suppose to be happy. I look back and this believing thing was the reason people kept secrets didnt share their life with one another and made bad choices for their life. believing was easy. Now trust oh LORD I have a time with it. to trust God I have to engage in willful prayer that means something to my soul , to trust God means moving forward in life regardless of what I may want or think I need, To trust God means I really am thankful for the life IM living with the Lord. To trust God means I do not always get my way , bottom line to trust means I lose alot of control and can not dictate what may or may not happen next. for me it is alot more difficult. It has alowed me to find people who can say Im dying of cancer and the dr. says I got six months to a year and I still know God cares and adores and loves him.her as much as always. I do not look for a fault in their person on just why something human or evil or just sad or anything negative may be happening. I can fully love another, because Jesus loves me. it is better to trust God, I agree and in my opinion the "believing" concept twi taught denied God and made us almost hate one another or in the very least be afraid of sharing our life with one another in truth. truth is a big deal to God and all Jesus christ ever really commanded of us is we worship God, and love one another. the believe thing got warped and hurt many, and dare I say even the Lord Himself.

the law of believing if I remember it right is about wishing and magic thinking about a situation or choice to make it happen or not happen. magic thinking will always be around , we all engage in it, if your honest. I do think what I believe I can do or not do is often a reality. I do not know if it is a law. i often try to do things I do not believe I can do. try. but if I truly do not believe I can do something come heck or high water I wont or can not do it. I think if I dont believe I can I wont. do I think that is all it takes? no most adults wont survive with that mind set. what I think folks do with the twi thing is they bring in a sense of denial.. um my big toe is hanging by a thread on my foot but I believe and vsion and (wish) it isnt so . So you can deny reality with a believing mind. maybe sometimes that is a good choice. but not when it makes for a life that is messing with your happiness or peace in any way. it has to be a mix that works for the individual. f

Truth is all relative. facts are facts but truth is always wide open, in any group. Most do not want to know or hear that facts tho, we all stand on our platforms of our own "truth" and often feel the need to share this knowledge with the rest. Im not a big talker really , at greaspot I have learned how people really think or how they write about ideals and subjects. interesting . I do not seek to meet my social or any other needs at this forum, or the internet in general I find it amazing some can and do . honesty is always good and I believe most on greaspot are honest in their own truth. I also believe truth is the world one makes on a individual base of what they believe to be true. I truly listened to my grown son one day and he spilled and talked and went on and on about how life is... All I could say was that is in your "world". I truly dint get one ideal of any of it... try as I might I like the guy and everything he is my son. his truth, his world was so different from my reality. We all live in our own stuff. Ithink a good greaspotter is one like any social club who can share the reality and world of the posters who have the time and need and desire to be here. the rest of the posters I think are just looking at people and what they write and find it interesting, and can relate to some stuff .

very cool .

road bumps . more like I have been in hell itself for the last few weeks. on and on it went , I began to hide . then last week it was the last straw. death dying and pure hatred I have been putting up with life as a nightmare . a series of unfortunate events. do want to know what put me over the edge? just lost it? I found a bald spot on my cat. didnt want to go on. I found myself crying in heaps to my friend about a frigggin bald spot on my cat!!! are you laughing ? it isnt funny. this whole dam thing called life just sometimes aint funny no more. better days are coming.

Yes I have heard the pitch for years now esp. on the tv sales. Do not worry Retailers will stop odering them when the time comes and the price will go down and down till they will be dificult to find. keep in mind it is like the dial phone with the ring and numbers (remember them?) haha we do not see them much but if you have one it will work and your old tv analog will still work. They will not take all the satellites down . I doubt they will even touch them. they will not be repaired and eventualy they will float away in a few HUNDRED years maybe. reception will sound like poop next to digital but they will still work like they all did when evryone thought they were great. No new satellites will be put up , so if you cant get reception now it is unlikely you will in the future as was once the selling card of most cell phones. my phone is not digital believe it or not and I am grandfathered in for under 15 dollars a month , unlimited nights and weekends and 500 daytime. yeah even my carrier freaks when they look at my plan. but I cant get a new phone unless I find one on e-bay without getting a new plan and all the new plans are for digital. it is just a matter of time really till we will all be forced to switch on the cell phones cause they only last so long but tv wont be a problem the satellites will float around as they always did . but within a decade you will only find them at garage sales . they will be like the balck and white tv of today why bother?

I just do not get the point. I believe if God almighty creator of the heavens and the earth and the one who formed man from dust can tell me quite well anything I may need to know. Just why exactly do I need a dude or some WOG to share? Yes indeed I have seen strange and FREAKY things said and believed in these types of advertisments for Holyness. I hear an attitude , I know I know. given I had the attitude I do not suppose I could "receive with meekness". always a problem. You say He "nailed it". do not understand that really not, is what your saying is he told you something you already knew about your life ? and it was amazing? nah I rather they didnt know or rather guess at my life. I Know I know bad christian. like I said I just do not get it.

I really like to hear the bible lessons that spirit and truth has formaly CES, but I could never get involed cause I think that what they call prophecy is EXACTLY like you descibe a fifty fifty chance and you were wrong so what are the odds what one of those numb nuts say is going to make my dreams come true? so sad isnt it? I know I know the bible says we are suppose to.. I still do not get it. bad christian I suppose.

I do not know if it is this vertigo , I always called it motion sickness. Im middle age and my enitre life since I was 12 driving the tractor on the farm I have drove. I can not and I mean can NOT ride as a passenger in a car. no way, I am so sick and feel like throwing up within less than a 1/2 mile, my head pounds I go blind I shake. I refuse to do it. the last time I rode with my sister down to the corner store she had to stop the car as I crawled out of the car and laid face down on the side walk. honest. NEVER again I would even risk it. I always drive or do not go. no no planes either wouldnt even consider it well maybe If I sleep not sure never took the chance. is that what it is like dot? oh heck no I wouldnt be able to go on if I felt like that for ten days. mine goes away if I am as still as a mouse for and hour or so with no noise or light or movement. well I cant move actualy I lose the ability I am so weak I cant even pick up my hand if I get it. my friend wants me to take meds but IM fine as long as I drive with the window wide open yes even in a snow storm so few ride with me Im used to it. cant live any other way. I hope you feel better soon.

forgive me, maybe you will understand but the fear in my heart would kill me if I took drugs for high cholesteral. kidding . I do think they take more notice of the side effects now than they did just a few short years ago. who ever died of a cholesteral problem ya know? I smoke to but no high blood pressure mostly cause I just stay *%^#*ed off. ( oops have to edit I will write 'angry instead of the pictures. lol ) yeah they hear my family health history and pull out the pad of paper like it is the dam stock market. funny they never ask how much they drank or what kind of stress they had. I believe in the mind body connection more everyday myself.

my opinion is DO NOT do it. I do not want you to have a stroke . look at the side effects you got that right! I know a lady never sick a day in her life in her late 80's who had a disabled child still livng at home , lots of stress and work all of her life so she took the medicine and ended with a "rare side effect" total loss of muscle control permanent damage so NOW she has the elderly disabled kid the 94 year old hubby and cant move her legs. it was from the medicine they gave her for high cholesteral. great man I tell ya she is one angry old lady. my enitre family is on the stuff I refuse also I was border line and he isisted Im looked at the dr. straight in the eye and told him give me six months and also refused. It went down some and I aint worried it is not at a alarming rate. frankly I do not care if it was. I get my breast X rayed I do the normal stuff but I am not going to put a drug in my body that is just plain weird. I guess you always have to chose what is right for you but from what I see from my hyper always sick catch everything family sickly and whining constantly meds do not help and more than half the time the suffer worse from the side effects. I do not want to live till im in my mid eighties. . just me but really how many of those ages really do and live the manner they would like? I wont Im poor and no hope in sight. work then die . simple. I think this whole cholesteral crap is a scam. Im not a dr. but Ive heard enough horror stories from taking the meds to beat the thouught of taking anything for whatever that is suppose to do to ya. good luck I am just writing to say I agree with ya. do what is best for you.

Really could be from the root canal, dot. Godd luck having them admit it tho, I had one done and my face fell like a person who had a stroke I drooled and my eye was half shut for days.. it was the root canal , the post tore a nerve or sat on anerve or shifted or some such mess . I had no pain I just looked like my face was melting. I had the tooth removed and all the problems went away.. the post could be sitting on your nasal cavity and causing an ear reaction in the drainage making the vertigo. honestly have it checked with more than X-rays , you know your body best.

they do it here as well I agree with laleo, I also understand your concern as a parent. Maybe it was a new bus driver and he/she was unsure if they where waiting for the bus or not, maybe a young child said they may have come some time, who was a little excited or confused. Better to check rather than to leave them behind!! I think it is a good thing Im sad more parents do not get on the bus as well but anything for a few free hours away from the kids I guess. It cant hurt, learning the bible is still a good thing to me. In an apartment complex I have lived in the baptists would sponsor a three week bible day camp for all the young people living in the area. Let me tell ya I LOVED it!! the kids did to! it was free and they got snacks and had alot of fun and the minister and his wife and helpers would often walk the kids home and meet the parents and try to help in any way they could . I understand mistrust, I really do and as a parent each one has his own choices to make on trusting those who influence the little ones.. but I still believe in good people and prayer and good old bible lesson with some macaroni pictures!!! It helps with social skills within the community as well and the kids make friends , in a nice environment.

Hap's reply is exactly why I do not believe for a minute that Walmart has one shred of integrity and could care less about who has the "pill" or not. when Walmart was first beginning its surge to the north and began the Super stores how did they attract the consumers? "American made "signs had been displayed All over the place in the stores and they ran a media campaingn with the flag and good old White bread Americans in a freaking 4th of July parade for YEARS. At the same time forcing American, manufacturies out of business and/or into China's arms with their cut throat my way or the highway policys and unreachable contracts. they got away with this lie in advertising for a good long time and have now begun to saturate the Northern states as well. good or bad? I do not know. They certainly have impacted our economy and have enough power now to dictate just about anything they want.

Yeah it is noble to be able to shop the exclusive stores, but alas IM poor and I save a ton of money buy shopping at Walmart. obviously Im not the only one , doesnt make it right but I live in a practical at times survival world, till my ship comes in . right now I do not even see the ocean in sight sooo.. they win. they know it to.

Walmart will not close its stores. Walmart began its legacy in the bible belt of America, and may be trying to avoid protesters in front of the stores. but it is more likely to do with the amount of money they will NOT make from the product mixed with the controversy of this drug. if it had a pretty mark up price hell yeah they would do it in a heart beat no doubt. I do not think Walmart has any concern for" morals" . the sales is probably closer to their means to the end. We have stores(not Walmart) here that do not sell it, because of the moral judgement of the employee's . Walmart would / could get sued by employee's(happens everyday they have a very tight business plan/policy, very few successfuly sue Walmart, many try.) and are probably doing the bee hive business writing needed to insure the policy to make sure everyone can be forced to do it their way or die. Such is the Walmart of today in business. Walmart refused to sell tupperware because tupperware asked for a price increase of less than a penny, they dropped all tupperware products in all the stores, forcing tupperware out of business and into bankruptcy within a year. today you will see some products from tupperware but it was Walmart who at one time held all of their major contracts and forced the competitition price at a price that tupperware was unable to compete with the products they brought in from china and etc. Walmart is THE retail business in America for a reason. IM convinced it has NOTHING to do with the good or wellness of anyone but Walmart.

What hapened with the purge is the lesson of twi for everyone. Many thought God almighty loved us and did only for us to the point we could deny just about any reality or problem mistake or bad choice. honestly it was all about believing. I think that is why many had such pain, leaving or staying. God either made a mistake or He just doesnt love us like we had been taught to think. the circle was broken. the confusion, the strife, and the facing of truth struck across TWI like a lightening bolt , not just OHIO. many realized for the first time the song about how "We got the power" indeed may have some limits. it was the shock of a life time. who would have thought? I honestly think God destroyed an idol of the people. no one thought about what or why or the reality of of outcomes... honestly in twi how many really really ever did? twi demanded God to perform . Cant touch it, all powerful twi, got slapped and like all bullys just got meaner and less willing to see the problem in any type of peace making rational terms. it was a dam gang fight.