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That helicoper is harder than it looks! I got 550 miles and my arm froze up.

is. mars is NOT a planet any more is it?

dojooble indeed I have no doubt man has been able to terminate pregnacys all through out the ages. probably herbs. our take on off spring has changed tho if you look at history , man wanted kids to farm and take care of the animals. we had no industrys in the early bible times all the tribes were self sufficent. so the need for children was much greater. the bible says happy is the man who has plenty!!! god considers children a blessing. so an abortion would be a situation of fornication, adultry or the jealsousy thing in numbers as v refers to. not for birth control. they had no need for birth control.

I briefly read the Numbers 5:28 passage i have to get to work now, but that is some news flash there. this is a lady who has a husband who thinks she may have slept with another man, and her belly will swell and her thighs will rot!!! my oh my . the concern may have been pregnacy or a disease she picked up a disease sexualy. after all is said and done if the priest is successful she can concieve seed. if not she is defiled and the husband is not to be blamed. I rather think she picked up syphulis, by sleeping around. It says she was never caught so the husband cant know for sure... so he must have some reason to take her to the priest, she would not tell knowing she would be sent out of the camp for that. the context is one who is defiled God is telling moses how to take care of the people things like being clean waste all the every day things they should do to stay healthy. he made them law. disease had gotten into the people by this point clearly. syphulas has been found in age old man in the stone age even so it is possible she may have had a sexual disease transmitted to her and it would indeed render her unable to "concieve seed" where in a preganacy would not .

yes some do refer to the image as being the capacity to communicate with God.. it is diffferent I covered that in the fact God gave adam the authority over the animals in the garden , He wants fellwoship with the people who are Like him they can talk and also "reason" no one had dominion over adam and eve except God. this is different than the animals as they needed a care taker and couldnt talk and couldnt really reason. they can think but not reason. people are the only creation made in the image of fellowshipping and communicating with their creator. and with one another, also probably LOVE and the capcity to LOVE has to be more likely because God is love. God made peole a superiour creation in many many ways because he wanted to see us to be able to understand us and for us to understand HIM and HIs ways as a relationship not a Dominion type of thing. God really did want a family. still does. He made us so we could chose to love HIM or not chose to love HIM . this is different than the other creations and in His image. but being made in this image did not change the fact that when they fell from grace all human became dead spiritualy and physicaly. i supppose I assumed some may think that because God is spirit and can not die they would think that all mankind would not die because they are made in his image. and that is the original lie of satan in the garden "surly you will not die" when God said YOU will die. and mankind did die both spiritualy and physicly on that day.

oh no! oh no! i get this the poor guy . My daughter had just gotten out of the shower and was naked in front of the mirror brushing her long hair.. and her cat attacked jumped on her back and dug in for life! she ran around her place like insanity bumping into walls and mirrors trying to get her off her wet now bleeding back ! the more she screamed the more the cat hung on now wet and frightened. she finaly had to stop drop and roll to get the beast off of her! these dam cats im telling ya they are a pain in the butt, why do i love them so much?

I do not inflict my "morals" on anyone. God does not metion abortion in the bible . the "image of God " is Spirit, John 4/24 I didnt say God is Spirit without flesh HE does. to be his image is HIS SPIRT which is all that He IS. which was given to adam and eve without condition then they couldnt obey and it was given on a very conditional base as PROMISES from God to a very select few in the OT> wE ARE BORN DEAD SPIRITUALY, WE have flesh and blood. and "life" is in the blood leviticus. God is spirit hello we have no spirit when we are born!!! we have life because life comes from the blood. so do all animals. Did ya read what God thought of mankind when the flood happended? evil all the time continuously not exactly the IMAGE of any God I would want to worship!!! God is love he doesnt do evil , he doesnt murder , or kill. people do we are not made in his image we were created to be in his image to have a relationship with HIM.. but it took a few turns and conditions along the way because of satan and the whole tree of life and CHOICE thing. people are made from their own kind other people. Just like everything eles God created in Genesis. God has only HIS chosen he takes care of and He knew them before the foundation of this whole mess was even started! so the word CHOSEN of God cetainly implies others will not be chosen really alive people with their own agendas that have nothing what so ever so do with God, unbelievers. how are they made ? they are made the same exact way believers are made by having sex, they get born and they die. no image of God at all, no spirit ever. Babies are a reflection of God mighty creation to be sure. As far as religous morals and right and wrong I allow Jesus to be the final judge on how people conduct their life and on an issue that is clearly NOT adressed in the bible such as a abortion I would be the very last to judge my brother or sister. God gave us life He would not consider one life to be more "important" over another as in (your only if a mom life was in jepordy. ) he isnt like that he does not pick and chose who should live or die that is truly freaking disgusting and appalling of His HOLY LOVE for all of us. God is no respector of people. Acts 10:34 God give HIS people a Choice to worship HIM or not T-Bone we are not forced to chose Jesus Christ as our SAVIOR, Read the above posts again. particlarly hebrews and many others. WE have a choice now between LIFE and death. and it isnt UP to God it is up to each person to decide. God has nothing what so ever to do with DEATH his image has not one bit of death in it... yet we people are all born into that state clearly, and we need to get BORN again to get out of it and have the Spirit He offers us. my thoughts my morals have little or nothing to do with what I wrote here for Gods doctrine, i do not tell my opinion, i speak from the bible the words of truth. I have chapter and verse and you have nothing but what you think.. well I guess if that is all folks need for "truth" well then the standard is wide open as big as mankind thoughts. that isnt good enough for me, I stick to what the bible says, and your whole "image of God theory has been blown out of the water by HOLY SCRIPTURE . it is your right to believe what you want doesnt mean it is what the bible says is truth.

if you do not believe people are dead Genesis 2 16,17 And the Lord God commanded the man saying OF every tree of the garden thou may freely eat. But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shall not eat of it for in the day thou eastest thereof thou shalt surely DIE! hebrews 2:14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death-that is the devil. Satan asked eve and adam if God really said that they must not eat from any tree in the garden Genesis 3:1 then he said "Ye shall not surely die" genesis 3-4 adam ate of the tree and death did happen to all of mankind. Romans 5 12 Wherefore as by one man (adam) sin entered into the world and DEATH by sin and so death passed upon all for all have sinned. So clearly we are dead, to God from this point forward and have another god satan who has rule and the dominion, until we are SAVED by Jesus christ. another good resource is "Is there Death after Life " by Mark Graeser John Lynn and John Schoenheit.

I do not think for actual jewels. more like a list of things they have find to get the next clue. and it is like a race and timed and people are eliminated if they do not find them in time. i never went sometimes i know they use the history of the city and it is like a question and answer thing. Where is the statue of who is who? um what food is served at what resturant exclusivly that type of thing. no i doubt we have "gems" we had a huge foot ice berg run through here and it took all the pretty stuff in the ground down to the south. we have fish.

yeah i get a little type happy as well t- bone. I wish i knew how to do that thing Oak does with the posts and but in questions under the post itself but I do not. I will try to get to each of your points and I will give you scripture as I do not deal with conjecture in the scripture unless it is very very obvious. a man named nicodemus had the same struugle you speak t-bone and Jesus talked to him about it in the book of john 3 1-10 now go read it and i will continue, whew!! so nic was a pharisee a greek, he was educated ine of isreals teachers IN john 3the words "born again" are not the same greek words Translated in the church epistles. to save space do a word study now on the word anagennao used in 1 peter 1,3 and 1 peter 1:23 give birth compare it to the word In john 3 this word is the greek words gennao and anothen which means from the top or beginnung. Jesus was not offering the "new birth to nic" he spoke of entering the kingdom not salvation. he was talking about Isreal's entering the kingdom. Isaiah 26,19 Isahiah 32 15-17 ezekiel 37 12-14 God will have to put the spirit into these believers and then they will come to life. Ezek. 37 5,6-8-10-14. they do not get saved , they enter the kingdom but it is a wholly different concept things changed with ACTS 2 and penticost. entering the kingdom is NOT the same as Christian salvation!! but a spirt is needed for both . Isreal is not part of the body of christ, an this can get long about how the Kingdom is set up so I will leave it at t at that. "Unless a dead person be given life by the spirit from above ( the wordsremember?) and come out of the grave (IE be born from above) he will not enter the MIllenial Kingdom when it comes he will remain dead in the ground" that is a quote from page 266 from the christians hope by John Schoenhet. so by scripture you theory is quite wrong. t-bone. dead is dead t-bone until God gives them the First resurection and PUTS holy spirit into them. As far as Mathew yes it would mean death , we are BORN dead in this life until we get BORN AGAIN and receive life everlasting. by the blood of Jesus Christ. the key is to accept HIS RISEN body as a SAVIOR for our own. He saves us from the death we are born into because of the chice of the first Adam. Are we dead? we have life we breath we have flesh, but God is not going to DEAL with us on that level. He is SPIRIT and concerns himself ONLY with what He is as far as redemming of course God wants all men to be SAVED, but it is a choice made by man himself. Jesus is our LORD and God gave HIM all authority now. if a believer dies his soul life and body ends we have HOPE because of the KINGDOM come in which Jesus will raise us, when he returns to collect His body , HIS new LIFE in us. but God says to be afraid of the one who can KILL the soul and body , if you have the seed of christ the new life if your born again you do not have to worry about it because YOU will be raised up to meet HIM to life forever then. the subject of the christians HOPE for life everlasting is a very comlpex structure t-Bone and many bible verses are involved. I reccomend the Christians HOPE the anchor of the soul by John W. Schoenheit. by his own admission he is a bible nerd and covers it so much better than I ever could think of. I tried to give you just a tiny bit, but trust me God knows what he is doing and he wants us to study the bible so we can not be ashamed as NICODEMOUS was when Jesus was so very surprised He didnt know as a teacher what would happen regarding the entering of the kingdom. it happens.

They do treasure hunts here localy peole go around and search for it with clues and maps. they pay money to part of it and sometimes it can last for weeks . it is often to raise money for a charity.

Like Noah God promised Abraham he would father a nation.. and the people would number like the sand , and they got old and old and old and Abraham had sex with the hand maiden because Sara was so old she knew she didnt have her period anymore .. the child concieved was NOT the PROMISE from God... then Sara got pregante and when she was told she cracked up laughing at the MIRiCLE because she was to old to have kids by NORMAL physical means!!!! it was the PROMISE of God come to pass and God in his infinate way of showing people it is UP to HIM who gets blessed and who doesnt, because God had PROMISED Abraham, he waited till everyone was so darn old it was impossible to have it happen by any other means than a miricle!!!! this is a miricle and in a class by itself , God was fullfilling the promise to Abrham finally!!! and the nations will start with the baby Sara was pregnate with! Sara was a fabulous believer of God and I bet she did doubt she was even pregnate barren all those years and now the baby leaped!!! THE entire world Rejoices when God blesses US!!! WE feel JOY with his deliverence !!! and this indeed was NO doubt a MIRICLE pregnancy! and a miricle that God has delivered His entire people once again. so what I am saying given the circumstance of the promise to abe the fact SARA was so very very very old she knew her body could not do it naturaly and she had been unable to concieve.. the fact that this preganacy was PROMISED BY GOD to ABE ONLY . Makes it a huge exception from the rest of mankind. No other man has been promised to be the father or that His children will number like the sand... it was special circumstance like when Noah was spared. This was the BLOOD line of Jesus Christ, that God was so excited about. His goal was the redemption of all mankind.

I think people Do dream, I do not know if it is a goood thing or bad. I have when I was a child one dream the same one.. for about a year. and sometimes if i fall asleep during the day a light sleep like in a chair or something( I know how sad but true these days) I wake up and think of something i was just thinking but it couldnt have been .. but it a tiny little thing not a story or anything spectacular. and it always always frightens me to! i freak out trying to make sure were I am who I am.. I do not like that. i do not think i would like to dream. not at all , my kid dreamed nightmares and they frightened her so I could hardly convince her it never really happened when she woke up. Im glad I do not. and if it was a super good dream and I woke up that would be a bummer to, so i just rather sleep and not have like a show in it. I like that tv comercial with the beaver and abe linclon and the space suit guy in the background talking to the dude about his dreams and how they miss him. haha

man what a verse you bring up!! The verse 6 t-Bone what God is saying man blood will be shed by whom???? BY MAN will his blood be shed!!! BY MAN BY MAN man will shed your blood, not God . WHY? because God made man in his own image WHICH is SPIRIT!!!!! spirit does not have BLOOD nor does it die!!!! ,, and God is saying Man will shed the blood of MAN not HIM, because his fellowship is not with the flesh the part that will die, but with HIS IMAGE which is the SPIRIT! God in verse 3 of the same chapter 6 says HIS SPIRT WILL NOT strive with man for his days are flesh. VS 5 and God saw the wickedness of man was great in the earth.. and EVIL. EVERY IMAGINATION OF THe HEART WAS ONLY CONTIUALLY EVIL GEnesis 6:7 and they were destroyed. except Noah who God found favor and grace with . God made a PROMISE to NOAH only not to mankind. Genesis 9 vs 5 says God requires the life of man, WHO DOES IT? MAN in fact at the hands of every mans brother. death had entered the situation people will now die by thier own hand. yes the author is satan but God didnt tell the people about lucifer quite yet. not untill the redeemer came. God promised certain people promises in the old testiment that they will be saved from certain situations so Jesus could be born and SAVE the flesh from death. He held to His promises to these folks because God can not LIE because why? BECAUSE He is not a man. He is spirit. People are made from Sex t-Bone.

sure and you can not comment on the bible verses once again!!!

When God was done with his work in Genisus he says it is finished. He did not put a fetus in a womb sexual intercourse did the wonder of making a baby, so I could say knit or i could say construct I could say glued, the psalm is saying it is a marvel how a your word "fetus" comes about. A woman and a man KNIT together to make a baby God does not do anything at all . and baababa boom a baby. God doesnt knit the man and woman do and that as far as the psalmist is concderned is how they made another and it was so great he wrote a song of praise. It sounds like a new dad , or anew mom over joyed with the glee . Where does your theory leave the many million and millions of babys concieved in a test tube hmm? it is silly. and ignores Genesis 61-4 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them. that the sons of God saw the daughters of men and that they were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose. and the Lord said. MY spirit shall not STRIVE with man, for that is he is also flesh yet his days shall be 120 years. Earlier in genisus in 1: And God said , let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed and the fru9t tree yeilding FRUIT after its kind whose seed is in itself , upon the earth. All human being do not have the image of God t-bone..In fact the bible says very few have HOLY spirit . God is Spirit and to be in HIS image is to have what HE IS which is Spirit. No one has ever been born with SPIRIT not even Jesus Christ who got it when JOHN baptisted HIM with the white dove!! and God actualy made jesus His seed!!! that FACT I find amazing in and of itself... God CREATED Adam and EVE he didnt make mankind we mutiplied just like everything eles, Adam and EVE blew it and lost their spirits that is why they were ashamed of talking to God in the garden. after that God allowed people holy spirit only when He decided, then Jesus the SECOND Adam came and didnt blow it YEEEHAW and today we can again have that "image " of God that fellowship that communication without conditions by believing God raised him form the dead. all men are born dead T-bone unless they chose to make Jesus LORD they will abort their life and live a maximum of 120 as the dust that God had said. Man seed is in itself hello man makes man in the womb.Genisus 1 27,28 God made both Adam and EVE out of DUSThe gave them soul. and in verse in verse 28 God said unto them be fruitful and mutiply they did the mutiplying not God.Genesis 1:-2:2and on the seventh day God ENDED his work which he had made: and he rested on the sevethday from all his work. leviticus 17: 11 for the life of the flesh is in the blood!!! soul life comes from the blood line of mankind. not God. So lets consider what happens NEXT Genesis 1:27 God created man in HIS image!!!....He gave them a holy spirit so he could communicate with them, God could not talk to the animals only adam could why? the animals only had soul life they did not have the holy spirit. Adam originaly had rule over all the animals but lost it when he fell from the grace of God! God didnt give himself rule he gave it to adam. because the animals do not have spirit only soul life. God didnt get tired he didnt get sleepy hewas DONE finished with his work that word rested is the same word used for Jesus Christ when he sat down at the right hand of God and "RESTED" HIS work was done. that is why God sanctified the Sabbath to rest from all His work and creations! HUGE verse here... JOHN 4:24 God is Spirit!!!! wow look at that!!!! The image of God MUST BE spirit!! and it is and was for adam and EVE God gave these two people he made from the dust a Spirit that was in HIS image , God is not of the flesh that is why he said 120 years because they adam and Eve are made from dust. and they were told to mutiply. spirit can not die but people can, and TODAY WE CHOSE to make Jesus LORD to recieve that same Image of God spirit!!! Adam and Eve had holy spirit so God could talk to them he gave it to them so they could commimicate they were never going to die or get sick or anything bad happen to them IF they did eat of the tree of life and GUESS what? man fell from the grace of God in the garden. and now we have a battle over good and evil and a CHOICE to make and that is the bible story.. through it all people kept having sex and making ababies.. the HOLY Spirit was only Given to people then on Conditions to get a job done no one was EVER "born with it" . we are still not "born with holy spirit" we are "BORN AGAIN" from our fleshy nature to accept Jesus Christ as LORD. It is a choice. Jesus christ was not born with holy spirit IT was given to him when he was baptist by john in the form of a white dove. God made adam and eve in HIs Image which is Spirit, Only God was above them , and they were told to obey one Rule and they couldnt do it and they lost the spirit and were thrown out of the life in the garden and .. well the book is quite lengthy .. so the second Adam came did OBEY died and was raised again and now we can be in the image of God and live forever. if we believe the account of the first and Second adams. God likes what He did when He made adam and Eve he says in genesis the second heaven and earth (the same heaven and earth peter speaks of in 3:7) was very good, but the animals and plants and fish etc were NOT "In his image" His image was given to adam and eve after he made them and they lost it all the dominion the fellowship all of it. they continued on with soul life made ton of babies and people only spoke with God on His terms when He wanted them to continue with His plan of Redeeming man , back to the original fellowship and communication God had wanted for them and Jesus accomplshed just that and that is why we call him the SAVIOR of man . He saved us from certain death in our souls , be redeeming back that which God is HOLY Spirit. We need to believe this fact from the bible to have access once again to be the IMAGE of God as He truly wants us to be, but it is our choice. Life is not sanctified because of satan, we have a choice to be redeemed or not .

The psalm is talking about how God created us , how cool it is to be pregnate how a little tiny egg and seed can make this person. We all still think that is an awesome feat ! Read the enitre psalm he talks about how God does all this from "dust" . God created only adam and eve the rest of us just went forth and mutipled it WE mutiplied one another as did all the animals and fish and alive things including plants. plants are alive , bacteria is alive many things are alive.. what does that have to do with whether abortion is wrong or right? With the right ingrediants man makes man , not God, we can even clone God has nothing do do with performance of the body he created and how people use it or not. unless we pray and ask him. Are you saying all men are made by God? no God created man and then man went about making more of them with the process of getting pregnate and having babies as did every other living thing! psalm 139 marvels at the wonder at how it is done and how finely it is out together from just "dust". if i have a seed and i plant it i get a flower . god made the flowers but this flower got here by my planting the seed and water ing it and sunshine etc. If God made all fetus then why would some not live? a mistake? a lesson of learning about heartache and sorrow? come on be real . acat has kittens and you are saying God put everyone in its pregnancy it is the same with unbelievers they have babies, God has little or no say in the matter. are they alive? maybe. what does that have to do with whether God thinks abortion is worng? another thing the psalm is not what god is saying to man but rather what man is saying to God about His work. Thou shall not kill? that is your excuse then how do you justify all the killings in the bible that happen? Right God does not want anyone to die and many many times they are killed by one reason or another. illness is sin in and of itself. if you die of an illness you are KILLED> God had the people KILL animals in which they WERE KILLED in worship for HIM to replace their sins. come on be real. The lambs and goats and birds that many took to jerusalem every year was to pay God... guess what they were alive untill they were slaughtered. Many soldiers of God were killed in battle over and over again because they didnt heed His voice. all killed. killing is common in the bible and God orders some of it alot of it. He has Rules concerning killing but killing is sanctified . and we do not know that because a Psalm thinks it is awesome how God created our bodies to work how he did it all out of dust!! how does have anything at all to do with abortion? it doesnt even adress itin any way! When God was done making Adam and EVE his work was DONE and he thought it was good !! after that we mutiplied as did every other living thing God didnt have thing to do with it unless we asked him to bless our life. many do not but guess what their bodies still can make a babies.

I have only dreamed once, and it was the same dream for about a year, when I was a child. since then i wonder what dreams are like I hear people talk of what they are like I have no clue . i wake up and i see the wall in the room i sleep in and get up and think coffee, no memory of anything ever.

t-bone because most of your questions do not have much to do with abortion, unless as always you want to assume a tone of conjecture. I can go to a religous web site and copy and paste without even knowing what the verses actualy say like you do and then ask question about what i pasted in ignorance for 1/2 the thread, but somehow i hope for a more personal or intelligent discussion. tell me what is it you have come up with for a conslusion? Psalm139 and the fact God made man is not such a shocking revelation to anyone T-Bone. God is our creator and I also praise him for it. that verses says how wonderful we are Made the marvel is in the creation of mankind. and has little or nothing to do with abortion. the bible also speaks alot more of how many enemys of God he will kill, and has killed. The Ot folks atributed everything to God death and Life because they had no permanent holy spirit and were rendered helpless to understand Gods voice for the most part. In the new birth anyone who choses Jesus christ as Lord has holy spirit and can communicate personly with the LORD. I happen to know it was satan who killed them but God ALLOWED satan his authority, because he is not a liar and is righteous and adam gave satan the authority by free will CHOICE given by God to man. God can only save those He can with their own obedience to His word. it is the people choice to live or die. wicked people, evil people, unbelievers and the enemys of God are also wonderfully made and formed in the womb as the Psalm 139 states yet no mercy is granted to their life T-Bone.

kit that is also addressed in the Exodus verse, that has always been against the law, that is a crime against another person. an abortion is a medical procedure and in medical procedure a dr. has consent and it is not a crime. if a person dies during say a heart surgery a dr. is not held accoutable or responsible in criminal court ever. possibly civil if it is proven to be gross neglegence.

The "act of killing" is one thing murder is another. are we held accoutable? was the apostle Paul? for many many MURDers? he was held accoutable by making Jesus LORD and having a gift ministry that involves many books of the bible. David had a man mudered so he could have sex with his wife and he was "held accoutable" but God did not revoke his fellwoship with HIM in any sense. Jesus Christ forgives sin. it is His job. killing isnt sin, murder is. We all sin and we will all be accoutable but until that day when Jesus does give out rewards and puinshments we live in alot of grace. abortion is not murder by the law of our land , or by bible standards .

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What christian lives without Jesus as LORD? um none. as far as unbelievers well God's morals or laws or even the bible doesn't apply to them now does it? so what are you talking about do you even know? billions are born every day in this world and God hopes to the utterermost what that they get born that they die that they live well NO NO NO he wishs they get saved from this life!!! it is mankinds only hope , for eternal life. God made the birds have baby birds cats have quite a few kittens , elephants and rats and all kinds of beast make babies God doesnt promise them life eternal. I ate a chicken do ya think God cares that he was dead first? God deals with what and who HE IS which is SPIRIT and he considers the flesh an enemy, wrong, sinful and not up to His dealing with all together. Hence the LORD! So if i get in a accident or an illness and the pregnancy ends i killed a baby? I do not think so. it is my body it is living off my body. I am to die for something that can not live without my body? that is absurd. life or death choices are left up to each person to decide for their own LIFE<<or DEATH now how can you twist that in any manner to say the same would not be the rule for any part of your body that can not live without it? God gives us the Choice to live or Die and he isnt going to change that whether i have fifteen toes or a bad hip that needs to be replaced all of the medical procedures available today. they are not sin. Our life is ONLY sanctified IF we accept Jesus as LORD! like Dot said with the fly she didnt murder it, it was killed and it no longer lives, but no crime has happened . Even if you ever do decide a pregnancy is indeed a life in and of itself.. just because something dies doesnt mean anyone did anything wrong other than the author of DEATH satan. death happens everyday and God has to accept it and it is not an individuals sin it is the sin of all men. satan has the authority to do it. the only thing people can do is accept Jesus christ as LORD and wait for His kingdom to come when death will no longer be around. Jesus is not going to destroy people for dying, He is going to give them new life without troubles and ilness.he is going to destroy satan. and he isnt going to destroy Gods children for killing either or even murder or the Apostle Paul is out of luck and he talked endlessly of being with christ!!

I believe in excersize as well and not just the go to the gym and look good in the shorts type. daily extended get up get moving type of stuff. Is alcohol and drugs playing into this trouble? stress causes cancer that is for sure. We may be eating foods that our system has to spend so much energy to digest it hurts us. I think we live longer but not really depends on which history you look at to decide.