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Doglover.......here at GSC, we are still waiting for some updated information on that. Some of us have heard/speculated that a "group of ringleaders" have been blacklisted by the directors. At present, it's still not confirmed.........only considered speculation from posts on the thread, Any Word? And, the unsubstantiated list of 24 corps is.......................Ted and Ramona Bidon, WC23, WC12.....Paul and Connie Brooks, WC8......Kevin and Melody Ann Carter, WC12......Michael and Cindy Fort, WC8......Gary and Patricia Frederick, WC8....Ed and Jacque Horney, WC15.....Bob and Dottie Moynihan, WC3.......Rich and Vera O’Neal, WC15, WC13.......Stephen and Patty Fay Roberts, WC8, WC9........Michael and Billi-Jo Sanders, WC23........Phil and Sue Shelton, WC31......Sean and Mary Strickland, Family WC19

Gee................. Three months have passed.........and it looks like the cult's damage control stopped the hemorrhaging. Having region guys threaten those followers with m/a tactics was enough to squelch it from becoming a full-blown exodus...... So, with all the stammering dissent......only 24 corps have been blacklisted? Wasn't there like 288 who participated in that Q&A meeting? I cannot fathom those other corps on that list to grovel at the feet of the self-selected directors, but then that's what 40 years of indoctrinated/institutionalized servitude will do to you. Gutless. Spineless. Victims. Of. Cult. Abuse. So much for "Revival" and "Restoration".........................

Glen Campbell .............. RIP

Well.......according to that seven-page paper, Letter to BOD 2016-08-12-1.pdf ------ 24 corps signed off on certain demands. According to the undersigned, they will NOT back down or go quietly into the night. THEY drew a line in the sand. So........this might be the "ring leaders" that rivenbark has blacklisted. Sorry guys..........you'd better wake up and smell the roses, because I think that rivenbark, bark, bark, has just called your bluff............. She doesn't need you around any longer..... She would rather have you go away and retire..... She and donna hold all the cards....... She loves control over that $68 Million.....

Where is the cut-off line of these so-called ring leaders? Who amongst them wants to go groveling back to the cult................

Oh the memories........the good, the bad and the ugly. Yeah......the rock of ages gave way to a wide berth of experiences....... .....or ....or The Backside of ROA

The rock of ages "festival"....................was cheapness to the bone. Everything about roa was FURTHER EXPLOITATION of the cult followers. Months in advance........in-residence corps at hq worked to clean, paint, fix, and organize roa material. Weeks in advance.........staff workers, mostly way builders, were assigned projects to handle the thousands who came to roa. Corps Week..................wierwille manipulated all corps grads to attend roa each year by first attending his "corps week." This corps week exploited all corps grads to work 4-6 hours each day as the cult geared up the food and delivery systems. Then, wierwille blasted any corps who didn't stay ALL of roa.......to help put on the roa [in-house slave labor]. WOW ambassadors returned and others were sent out......providing their own $500 and vehicles, and yearly sales service of pfal. Family Tables were side venues of attraction, distraction and cheap entertainment......good heart, but cult exploitation. Muddy parking lots, tent city, smelly porta potties and cold showers............cheapness to the bone. Food pavilions were staffed by field corps and advanced class grads, mostly..........doesn't everyone want to work a 4-6 hr shift? Same old, same old evening teachings every year........sit butt in crappy folding chair for 2 1/2 hours every night. Dress codes in the cornfield cult..............crap! Sure, put on your suit and tie for the occasion......spiritual protocol insanity!! With each year......more baby strollers, nursing mothers, toddlers and young teens. Yet, very little new venues of interest. The twit-cult had NO IDEA of engaging new interests..........it was simply a cult of manipulation and exploitation. After 3 years.......I found the rock of ages as mostly drudgery and mundane monotony. Good Riddance to all of it............... Crazy days of youth, for sure. I can hardly believe that I allowed myself to be dragged thru the cult's annual pilgrimage for all those years. Yet, deep down......I dissented because it wreaked of "using and abusing" others for personal gain. Oftentimes, those who came hardly had enough money for food and travel.......AND.......left the rock of ages with no money to travel home. Thankfully, today..........our two sons are cult-free and have no attachments, good or bad, to the cheap cult. It truly is amazing how far the distance is between the cheap cult environment of my past and the travel destinations that they, today, enjoy. Don't get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with camping.........but there is something drastically wrong-headed with camping in tent city, waking up to blaring "Beautiful Ohio" music at 7am, herded towards a cold shower, working 6 hours a day at a mandated-festival, and required to wear suit and tie in a cornfield. Those were the days, my friend.................... .

Yeah........the blatant double-standard on full display. The wierwille heritage was embraced because he and his family were silver-spoon special. Yet......we, the little people, were scolded that it was "worldly" to highlight our families. Wierwille showcased his dogs, Harleys and porn movie.......hypocrisy much? [/sarc] Yet......pets and possessions were scoffed at from the preaching podium. Wierwille boasted about his individual pursuits, adventures and interests. Yet......the "little people" endured verbal abuse to keep running classes. No life. No love. No living.......in The Way. We were on the clock to sell their soap.

Yeah.......and twi's "way tree" was as counterfeit as a $3 bill. The "gift ministries in the church" are ACCOUNTABLE to the Lord Jesus Christ, the head.......and then, are to serve honorably and uprightly in that One Body. Nearly everything about wierwille-doctrine and his centralized authority needs to be thrown in the trash. .

Same here....... Howard Allen was the one who came up with the title...."Lifelines." Figures. Only the most sycophant-cult follower wants to dwell on one-liners and clichés of the cult leader........and Howard falls into that category. No doubt that the bus driver was one of wierwille's biggest promoters. And, if the cult follower should ever find that he has fallen away from the mother ship..........all he needs to do is delve into wierwille's Lifelines. The definition of "lifelines" is a line thrown from a vessel that people can cling to in order to save themselves from drowning.

Leah Remini is going to further expose the Scientology Cult in season 2........starting August 15th. Season 2.......Stories You Should Hear You go, girl.

1974 -- Veepee complained to David Anderson that love wasn't working....... Say what ??????? So, if you can't dazzle them with (feigned) love.........verbally assault them with FEAR.

Thanks, Allan.......... Having grown up on a wheat farm, I can attest that rye and wheat are VERY similar......and only differentiated, if growing together in the same field from a bumper crop, shortly before wheat and rye reach maturity. Here in the states, the common rye grows about 6-8 inches taller than wheat, but is hard to distinguish as the two grow together. Only about the final two weeks before harvest is the distinction between the two more recognizable. Interesting about the "soporific poison" in this Palestinian strand of rye.............

AND, the cult incrementally taught aspects that moved/removed moral/ethical boundaries..........sexual behavior before marriage, serving the mog, being able to "spiritually handle it," abortion--only life after first breath, serve the cult----not honor father & mother, etc. ADD........guilt, intimidation, manipulation, exploitation........and one's "vulnerabilities" became expanded the longer one succumbed to this cult cauldron.

That, my friend.............was a 40-year detour cliché.

UGH............#5 "Go forth as leaders and workers..........in the household." The corps training/indoctrination is NO LONGER masked as a "Christian" endeavor, but an in-house and subservient role to the cult. When you realize that "the Word" is code for wierwille-doctrine..........there is not one thing in those 5 objectives that deem it has anything to do with Jesus Christ. They are blinded by their own deceptive tactics and cannot see it.

Great post, chock..........good to see it again. EVERYTHING about the cult experience.......group identity, conformity, submission, culture, and a squandered future is chaff, chaff and more chaff. This chaff..........needs to be blown out the "back end" of our lives. It's worthless and should be scattered to the winds. The false teachers in the cult had twisted and manipulated what was "chaff" and what was "wheat." The Wheat............heritage, family, friends, past accomplishments, educational pursuits, special memories, faith, etc. are those which one needs to auger into storage bins of heart and soul.

I haven't given this a whole lot of thought..... Just seems that rrobs could possibly benefit meeting Rosalie face-to-face since......."The Borg Queen is the focal point within the Borg collective consciousness" and rrobs keeps citing "all nine all the time." Maybe, the "Borg Queen" could set the record straight.......

Maybe, someone could introduce rrobs to the Borg Queen (of twi)..........so he can be more-fully-joined to The Collective.

Hey Rich........context, man. Remember? Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz.....call the Orkin Man!! Fumigate this thread. Robson.....resistance is futile! You are the "spurchal" Borg. ------- Borg ....appear as recurring antagonist. Watch out for all dem Debbil spurts! They're all around ya you know! Everything gives off something don'tchya know! .......you give off debbil spurt vibes You better start "all 9 all the time" for "real" Looks to me like DWBH responded in sarcasm to the absurdity of your recurring stance on pfal/twi allegiance.... You read it as "an idle threat".......??? Wowsers, talk about "spurchal" perception and discernment.......

For the past 30 years.........I'm becoming more adept at operating discerning of cults and know that I don't even have to be in their auditorium, or conferences, or classes, to detect their presence. Unmistakably, cults huddle in clusters of groupthink and are sycophants of lockstep loyalty. And, though they like to hide in the shadows of deception, hypocrisy, and unaccountability.........they mark their territories with exploitation and devastation of others' souls. Hell.........I don't even need to be anywhere near their headquarters or twig fellowships to smell the cult presence. It wreaks misery and despair as it grasps to drown others in its darkness. Thanks to GSC-posters, this discernment is exponentially flourishing far and wide.

That no one was there to witness the hookey-pook specialist, vpw, at work..... Skeptics press release: If spirits are deemed cast out and no one can corroborate.....credit goes down the crapper.

Think about that..........imitators of wierwille, martindale, geer, townsend, etc??? What did wierwille do ALL DAY? I hardly ever saw wierwille before noon meal........did he piddle around in his pajamas all morning? People waited on him at his beck and call.............even his coffee cup had to be a certain china cup. Okay, so he taught us some bible verses...............was he a DOER OF THE WORD? Nope. Never saw wierwille or other top tier guys do "the big six manifestations." Never saw it. Add arrogance, drunkenness, sexual predator and deceiver......hiding in the shadows. YET, they wanted to clone us into fawning followers and be indentured servants in the cult. In wierwille's twisted perversion, he wanted disciplined clones to run pfal classes.........little johnnie townsends.

Thanks, T-Bone..............that verse certainly could have added impetus to the cloning. I haven't thought about that specific verse in a long time.

In the strict sense of this word, totalitarianism......."it is a political system in which the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible." The cult system that wierwille established was based on "the repetitive indoctrination of the pfal class content into the minds of his followers." Clearly, it was NOT totalitarianism......because people could simply walk out and never return. And, thousands upon thousands did just that. But......for those who stayed it was a cloning factory of clichés and wayspeak doctrine. While in.....what did we know about someone who regularly came to twig fellowship? Family background? Parents/ siblings? Educational background? Skill sets? Hobbies and passions? Goals and objectives? Or.......was it just generic buzzspeak cult drivel each and every meeting? The monotony of doing the same things over and over again........was killing me. How did the cloning ever get implanted as "right believing"......???