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This word of God is of no private interpretation......but I, victor PAUL wierwille, have God's Authority on how best to interpret it and then teach it to others.

WordWolf........regarding splinter groups serving a valuable purpose as "airlocks"...... I used to think that as well.........but not anymore. My brother-in-law is on splinter group payroll [over 20 years]........and STILL holds to wierwille adulation and doctrine. How many of these guys are sucking the oxygen of the wierwille cult to keep the schlubs tossing their money into a cult-lite hole? 20 YEARS???!!! And then...............how many "followers" stay stuck in a splinter group in a deceived snare? Maybe, it's just me.......but when I exited twi, I did NOT need "airlocks" or "counsel" to depressurize........I just needed to ESCAPE AND BREATHE FRESH AIR.

Thanks DWBH.......... Seeing all the wierwille and geer schit that has hit the fan thru the years..........I'd be more inclined to side with Curtis and Knupp than the sociopaths and narcissists, wierwille and geer. The drambuie king and paranoid busdriver were shysters and con men with not an ounce of empathy for others.......

Thanks DWBH....... When ole wierwille went on a rampage about how phucked up Europe and Africa was.......did he give any specific? Hells Bells......the SAME THING was said about the USA way corps in 1986 by geer, two years later. Looking back on all this crap........wierwille and geer were dirty, lying, manipulating scoundrels. Anything and everything wierwille claimed......is highly suspect. The guy was a bully and a fraud. Any narcissist can bark orders, stomp out of a room.......and go back to his booze.

Thanks WordWolf...... EVERYTHING about wierwille-doctrine and one-liners is a "cut-n-paste" con of faux Christianity. And now, second and third generations of this self-propagating cult has taken to the internet to spew their diatribes. Now, these losers have no resolve to backtrack from this mlm-fraud, because of money, status and adulation. Hell........even if truth is staring them in the face, how many of them will still prostitute themselves for filthy lucre sake? No wonder these low-lifes despise GSC and its mission!!!

Grace.......it's amusing to me whenever I have conversations with ex-twiers who STILL cling to wierwille-doctrine and clichés, yet....when "the rubber hits the road" as the conversation deepens, usually they are clinging to the social aspects and "friendships." When it comes to people "getting to the place where they know that they know".................they don't.

Exactly..........pfal was just window-dressing for the company store. ........and corps were trained to give you directions to the store.

................Nicely put.

The psychology of idolatry.......specifically, wierwille-idolatry. Whether it's Facebook, splinter groups or just simply old "cult friends"...............the adulation/idolatry heaped onto wierwille after all these years is astounding. While they hold up their King James Bible in one hand......they sing from the "Glory Be To Wierwille" Songbook in the other. The stanzas are sung with repetitive gusto ........as splinter groups pass around their horns of plenty. Cha-ching, cha-ching to the money-changers. First and foremost, the Scriptures speak directly and forcefully against excessive reverence to any man.......yet, it matters not to these folk. They ascribe to the Holy Writ......and yet, they don't. Hey, it's fun to cherry-pick your verses and still hold spiritual authority over others, doncha know? Wierwille did it. Why not? The psychology of idolatry is driven by emotions, nostalgia and mystique-reverence of another person or thing.......not reasoning and logic. Who is standing behind the curtains at S.O.W.E.R.S.?...........some old-timers invested in wierwille-idolatry. Who is on the payroll of splinter groups?.............self-appointed opportunists who are "keepers of the flame." Who extols their Facebook "wall" with wierwille propaganda?.................someone with cognitive dissonance. Weeks ago, someone came to GSC and posted the virtues of "all nine all the time." To me, it was surreal......like an early-1980s time capsule. Hearing this advanced class cliché that was phased out and shelved in the archives of twi-lore.......and still, someone clings to it with a reverent embrace......and it was a FALSEHOOD. Psychology, the science dealing with the mind and its mental and emotional processes......and idolatry have hit on an inflection point. It just seems to me that without persistent and logical application to break such emotions and cult nostalgia.......one has little chance of connecting the dots and changing course. But hey...........nobody said that breaking the chains of cults would be easy.

Oh yeah............so many times! Thanks OldSkool for starting this thread years ago. It speaks more volumes in the cult today.

In so many ways.......the WOW "program" was flawed six ways from sunday. It was deemed to be separate and distinct from the local believers....ie communication ran thru the "wow coordinator" and not the regular way-tree setup. Remember......8 hours of "witnessing" a day was in the wow handbook. Who really beat the streets or knocked doors for 8 hours a day? What was minimum wage back in '77? Try working 4-6 hrs/day and take home $20-22 a day ....... and survive "abundantly" [barf] Then..........drive your car all over town to witness. Ugh. Car maintenance/ car repairs / gas expense ALL THE WAR STORIES........being a martyr on the wow field. Buncha crap. When did WIERWILLE ever go witnessing? knock doors? witness 8 hrs a day? Hypocrites and enablers pushing the youth to go knock doors.......

YIKES.......now, you blame all this on "youth" and "ineptness?" Mike, here is what inept looks like...................The filming of pfal........and blunders

The Psychology of Authority = Every Adult at Indiana Campus Carried a Wooden Spoon Every adult was given the authority to discipline any child/teenager for their behavior or attitude (or perceived attitude) The wooden spoon was a constant reminder that, in the presence of any adult, the adult carried ultimate authority Was every confrontation necessary....or times when an ego-driven adult was looking to express authority? Wouldn't it have been an interesting study to see how young teenagers viewed those two-years of in-residence submission? What instances were wooden spoons used? How often were these confrontations? When was the adult wrong on perceived judgment of a situation?

In 2 hours...........the 2nd Season begins with Leah Remini exposing Scientology on A&E. What else will we see during this season's episodes? The Psychology of Authority........and how it infiltrates down Not just the leaders, but the whole system..... Everyone in the system is empowered to defend Scientology...... Lest the ministry....er, Scientology be blamed

Roll away, roll away, roll away..........every butt is now a-hurtin' let us pray.

Well that just sucks........... I remember one lunchtime lecture that we got for using too much toilet paper. They tried to drive home the point that two-squares of toilet paper would be sufficient to do your business and get off the pot. OMG.........freakin-unbelievable. What these idiot leaders did not realize is that corps were taking reams of toilet paper off the rolls and USING IT FOR KLEENEX to save money!! Since we sat in class forever and in close proximity to cult hugging.......when someone got a cold or flu, it spread rapidly. Lots of coughing and running noses........and toilet paper in abundance.

Yeah........it is amazing how some cult zealots could sink to the level of pond scum parasites, lockstep loyalists and cult cowards, THEN lie and deceive their way out of Austin in the middle of the night.........and surface and post "their wonderful life and successful careers." What?.........no apologies forthcoming to the dozens and dozens that they attempted to destroy? Don't expect one, don't need one. Yep...........and once again there are those, like the lallys, that NEVER help to mitigate the evil done.....NEVER lift a finger to expose the evil underpinnings of The Way International Cult.........NEVER post on GSC.

T-Bone.......or flip it around the other way; namely, smug "street-smart" folk entered the corps program as opportunists and frauds. Remember all the crazy street/park/apartment witnessing we did thru the years. Knocking doors and pounding the pavement to get someone....anyone to take the class? How many of them (us) were still in our youth? still searching for identity? in the drug culture? high school or college drop-outs? wanting to ditch your past abuse or divorce? no career goals in sight? So......along comes this "opportunity to climb a spiritual ladder and really 'make' something of yourself?" Who here at GSC hasn't heard about ....... rosalie f. shumate. She didn't go WOW or ever serve as a twig coordinator on the field.....nope. Straight from being a divorced teacher to family corps! Bamm......now she had spiritual cred, because she kept her butt in a seat at the Indiana campus. Whoop-dee-doo. Straight-up opportunist and fraud, to boot. And then, there's that old pesky 80-20 rule,....ie pareto principle where 80% of the bullying, intimidation and manipulation comes from 20% of the guards (corps leaders). Even in that Stanford prison experiment.....things escalated rapidly on the second day when that ONE GUARD took every situation to another level of intimidation and humiliation of the prisoners. That one guy set the stage for other guards to follow.....and the bullying exponentially multiplied.

"Guards and prisoners were playing the role of their authority, which is subjective. They may have not acted the same in real life situations. In particular, the environment and authority roles they found themselves in changed their actions." Corps grads and cult-followers were/are playing the role of their so-called "spiritual authority over others" which was/is subjective. They WOULD NOT act the same in real life......in the workplace, marketplace, or wherever. The roles of the cult influenced their surroundings, environment and authority with which they found themselves in the cult. Each and every meeting, function, and activity strengthened their authoritative role and diminished the follower who stayed submissive. Chris Geer relishes the authority role of guard......"guardian of the wierwille mystique." John Lynn basks in the self-glory of guard............"and keeper of the pfal-secrets." Walter Cummins enjoys being the warden............"overseeing the biblical research complex." Corps grads who fawn over wierwille-adulation embrace the nostalgia of the good-old days. .

We were allotted $20 per month for expenditures....... Some corps had sponsors who sent them gift boxes with toothpaste, deodorant, floss, cookies or whatever. But still......$20 didn't go very far when you slapped quarters into washers/dryers every week, vending machines for a snack, and a couple donuts or beer on Saturday. They said this would teach us to be financially responsible with money......but really, this was just ANOTHER way to control us.

Thanks Rocky.......for the youtube video. The Stanford Prison Experiment......"The researchers held an orientation session for guards the day before the experiment, during which guards were instructed not to physically harm the prisoners or withhold food or drink. In the footage of the study, Zimbardo can be seen talking to the guards: "You can create in the prisoners feelings of boredom, a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of arbitrariness that their life is totally controlled by us, by the system, you, me, and they'll have no privacy ... We're going to take away their individuality in various ways. In general what all this leads to is a sense of powerlessness. That is, in this situation we'll have all the power and they'll have none." The in-residence corps program was a culture of authority and dominance. Under the guise of "spiritual oversight," the branch/area/corps coordinators were supported by the elder corps to keep the younger corps in a state of submission. An "attitude of gratitude" [submitting to the guardians of the spiritual secrets] was expected to be your best state of mind. Not grumbling, no whining, no dissenting, no outbursts of frustration.......just keep your trap shut and "listen, remember, and obey." In 1978, my first year in-rez......along with side classes each day [study principles, dale carnegie sales techniques, jet-style packing, memory pegs, etc.] we were delving into the book of Romans on corps nights, Thessalonians taught by corps coordinator, Galatians tapes from wierwille, and Leadership Principles of Jesus Christ during study hall. Each corps was required to know the 25 corps retemories, the 25 advanced class retemories, the 25 defeating the adversary retemories......and you might be called on to stand up and recite one of them. Or, called on to stand, speak in tongues & interpret at the 5:30am morning teaching. They pulled the strings.......and held the power to control each day's outcome. My first block, I was assigned to Harry Hall dorm and had 3 other roommates. After Christmas break, we all changed dorm rooms......and I was in Owens Hall with 17 men. Some set their alarm clocks at 4:15am, or 4:30am, or 4:45am, or 5:00am, or 5:10am......when we had a scheduled be-in-your-seat at 5:20am morning teaching. Open showers, cold showers, men shaving, men flossing teeth.......hurry, hurry, get to class. The corps coordinators and assistants played tag-team over us. We had to be at every meal, every class, every work assignment, every branch meeting/assignment..... whereas they, the powers-that-be, floated in and out of the green room, and skipped breakfast often. Why not? They had access to food service delivered to their apartment, refrigerator, shelves stocked with food and snacks, etc. Two different worlds. How often did they leave campus and shop? How often did they go to a local coffee shop or restaurant.....while we were in class? This was not a 12-week boot camp.........this was 2 years of intense, in-residence indoctrination. The psychology of authority was like a dark cloud over the emporia campus.

The Way College of Biblical Research, Emporia Kansas..............was NOT a college; it was a cult compound and indoctrination program. Yeah, I signed on the line to go way corps and learn at this "college"........but I clearly was not expecting group cloning and the stripping of my individual identity. Each day was packed with pushing the limits psychologically, emotionally and socially. For me......it was frustrating as hell to be in their little guilt box, but I determined to persevere thru this "boot camp" because I'd never quit anything in my life. Surely, this is just to "test" my endurance levels.....wasn't it? Having been to a real college.....I was expecting a moderation of corps training and college life. You know,.......some fun, homework, free time, deep pursuit of challenging questions, beer and girls. ..............I was NOT expecting rigid conformity and authoritarian rule from the moment I got up until lights out at night. Yeah, that's probably a bit of an exaggeration, but mentally........it often felt like that. And, the work detail..............really? I was so thankful that I wasn't put on weed detail. I think that pulling weeds 4 hours a day would have been too much for me. Having grown up on a wheat farm, I was driving a tractor at age 10.......and when martindale talked about mowing grass and his dad made him clean the lawn mower before putting it away, I snickered. Mowing grass to learn detail? spiritual truths? Oh my. But yeah.......it was challenging to keep my emotions and thoughts in check. I hated the confinement......mentally and emotionally. The psychology of authority bearing over my shoulder day after day was grueling and frustrating......and that was one of the biggest challenges for me of the corps "training." Gawd......someone in authority giving us a 20-minute lecture on why the toilet paper should dispense over the roll and not under it.

Damn. The Stanford Prison Experiment movie was on cable tv again today......."The Stanford prison experiment (SPE) was an attempt to investigate the psychological effects of perceived power, focusing on the struggle between prisoners and Prison officers. It was conducted at Stanford University between August 14–20, 1971, by a research group led by psychology professor Philip Zimbardo using college students." I know this topic has been discussed here at GSC before......but in watching it (again), it seemed so eerily familiar to corps training. The psychology of authority........twig leader, branch leader, area leader, corps coordinator, corps director and "man of god" wierwille Stripping of individual identity......everyone is under group authority; no musical instruments for 3 months; $20 /month spending; stay on campus grounds Mandatory scheduling........class attendance; work detail; cafeteria too (whether you ate or not); uniformity across the board / no exceptions Rigid Conformity to "lights out" at night and morning "roll call"........with thrown in 3am fire alarm drills to measure response and obedience Every day was "spontaneous obedience"......each day it seemed like THEY made an example of someone who broke the rules The threat of being singled out was REAL.......mocked in front of the whole group, confrontations, cite retemories, verbal abuse Elder corps were told to oversee the younger corps and, in essence, whistleblow on them if need be..... The psychology of authority was everywhere on campus........peer pressure to "stay in your lane" and obey When wierwille came on emporia campus.....he said NONE of us knew how to work [demeaning of self-worth] Indoctrination into the cult.......spiritual protocol, mannerisms, dress code, clichés, nametags to engender authority figures Idolatry and adulation of wierwille.......the man whom God waited for since the Apostle Paul to teach us "the word"..... (/s) Watching this movie was startling.......the gripping power of authority that was inescapable 24/7. The Emporia Campus was "the four walls" and the younger corps submitted to authoritative figures in dorm rooms, classes, meal time, running on the track to get aerobic points, wherever. We were given monthly household responsibilities that extended beyond our daily work assignments.....ie another authority figure over us. We were assigned bless patrol shifts in the middle of the night and/or mandated prayer vigils for an hour in the prayer room. So, for example if our twig was assigned at 4am to pray....someone might come looking for you at 4:02am if you didn't show up. This psychology of authority was OVER US........24/7. The only two options were 1) obedience/conformity or 2) leave/split/get thrown out. More later...........

No matter the outcome of who gets marked/avoided and who doesn't..........the cult directors crossed a red line by insulting the way corps with their attempts to instigate a "retired way corps program." That seemed to be one manipulative ploy too far for these "retired" corps......and they'd finally had their fill with jumping thru hoops to please the cult directors. Rather than extending honored recognition and thankfulness to these retired way corps, rivenbark and her sidekicks tried to plug them into ANOTHER monitoring program............ Guess that was one bridge too far..... If I were a betting man, I'd wager that very few of these corps will ever give zealous support of the cult again. They explicitly stated that they were INSULTED......and it seems like some were starting to wake up...... One Man Awake ............... awakened to get the hell out of this cult.