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Okay......I decided to dig out Mrs. Wierwille's book, [BATS].....and give you the specifics. Page 215.........wierwille's resignation letter Page 219........."A New Headquarters" ........................"While we were preparing to leave the Van Wert pastorate, we had found new housing for our family, as well as for The Way Ministry, at 649 South Washington Street, still in Van Wert. This house was an outstanding example of the Queen Anne style of architecture, with its three-story round tower, fretted windows, elaborate bay windows, and distinctive pillared and balustered front porch. And we had all the room we needed." "Parking space was readily available along one side of the street, as well as in our large backyard. The location and house were perfectly suited to use as our family home, Dr. Wierwille's and Rhoda's offices, and a meeting place for the many Way activities." ......snip......."We moved into this home the week after the final Sunday service at St. Peter's. Dr. Wierwille was now free [emphasis added] from all denominational responsibilities and pressure." "Uncle Harry said, 'The in-depth teaching really got going in 1957 when he [Dr. Wierwille] resigned from the organized church. It wasn't a surprise, but then, really it was. I became vitally interested in his work at that point. I wanted him to succeed in his venture.'" "We began our independent undertaking by having meetings in this Washington Street home on Thursday evenings and late Sunday afternoons. The first Thursday evening fellowship was held on December 19, and the first Sunday meeting, on December 29, 1957." Therefore.........according to the most-detailed accounting of The Way International's beginnings, Mrs. Wierwille documents the timeline AND the exact day and date of their INDEPENDENT UNDERTAKING...............December 19, 1957. So, one last time........twi has not yet arrived at their 60th anniversary. Now.......who wants to "trust" them to do honest research?

"What would make any Corps person think that now they are going to go out and supposedly make 'a million' for the ministry? God never called the Corps, the leadership of our ministry, for that purpose?" Well, for one thing.......you, mr. wierwille, stated publically in 1979 that you WERE WAITING for the day when someone in the ministry would donate one million dollars to the ministry. There were no qualifiers with that public statement: why wouldn't a corps person, "trained in believing," be able to step up to the plate and do it? See......that's the dirty little secret, what you really wanted was to pigeon-hole groups of people for the cult's purposes.... ............Only corps can be the leaders, parrot the mandates, oversee the followers, and help crack the whip to run those classes. ............Only college division alumni are to be the 'business and professionals' of the cult..... ............The staff are to be in the inner sanctum, the holy and spiritual elites near the mog. These corps letters were NEVER MEANT to reach the general masses.......it exposes the ruse.

Another reference to doulos............... February 1982 "Some Corps have said to me that they never really were called to be Corps. I don't believe that. You never would have been in the Corps in the first place had not God had His hand on you. Man, you're Corps! I haven't the time to figure it all out, but I'll let God be the judge at the bema. All I know is what God has called The Way Corps to do, and what our sold-out, committed response must be." "The Way Corps is a lot bigger than just you or me. It's the accuracy and integrity of God's Word that is at stake. When any Corps start turning away from the Corps, they are turning away from the Word, the great Mystery. We are to diligently keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace. Your loving response to the ministry that has given you the privilege of being Corps for four years of teaching is your total commitment and service to the Word as a bond slave (doulos)." With each letter, the incessant focus on "you're corps, called to be Corps, privilege of being corps" was to ratchet pressure against those who knew it was time to get off this moving train. When one reads thru this whole letter......it's obvious that lots of people were dropping their nametags and moving on in life. How about a timeline of some facts? 5th Corps [75+] graduate in July 1977 6th Corps [320+] graduate in July 1978 1977 ROA in Sidney, OH......utilizing buildings and areas on the fair grounds 1978 ROA was moved to hq-grounds and needed lots of labor to set up tents, food pavilions Corps Week added prior to roa. Now, corps traveling long distance needed 16-18 days of "vacation time" from employer each year Add, Anniversary Weekends, WIB, Weekends in the Word......the corps were scrambling to meetings and scrambling to pay bills By 1980, 81.........corps marriages resulted in babies, babies and more babies Wierwille could have written a corps letter per month......it wouldn't have mattered. Reality of life was settling in.......with marriages and babies came MORE bills, MORE financial burdens in the short AND long term. Working menial jobs wasn't paying the bills........especially with a growing family. Since wierwille demanded corps attend corps week and roa each year.......a large portion of corps were self-employed; [painters, landscapers, window cleaners, salespersons, etc.] With each passing year, the exponential burden of family/ child-rearing was inescapable reality !! Read thru the corps letters.......and what you DON'T see? Emphasis on education, family, children, school, careers, building a family unit thru generations..... Read thru the corps letters.......and what you DO see? A driving emphasis to jump thru hoops of fire and don't complain if you got burnt, dammit.

Wierwille's last corps letter in this collection..................Spring 1982 Embedded in the middle is this........ "The 'programming' of the minds of the world has been materialistic idolatry. The world will always make you feel like you have less than you need with the many 'gods' it offers. As the minds of the leadership go, so will go the minds of the people. The temptation: settling into a comfortable job or position and a socially acceptable life-style." "What are you claiming and evidencing in your life? Having food and raiment let us be therewith content; and unalterable commitment to move the Word over the world; a need to lead; a yearning for more laborers for the harvest; the heart of the doulos, Jesus Christ." Well, the reason some of us felt like we had less than we needed.....is because we HAD LESS than we needed. We had no health insurance, no equity, no savings, no IRA-retirement accruement, jumped from menial job in one state to another menial job in another state......we were driving broken-down cars, our marriages were being strained, our kids needed attending, and we didn't know that the next leader's confrontation might just nix 15-20 years of twi-involvement. Another rambling letter dripping with a sanctimonious lecture on "one's commitment to hock his classes." And, "as the minds of the leadership go"........and......"The temptation: settling into a comfortable job or position and a socially acceptable life-style".................MEANING, many of his lieutenants / corps leaders were ABANDONING WIERWILLE AND HIS CULT LIFESTYLE and getting a real job. Gawd........it all seems so surreal, knowing that wierwille had the soft, comfortable chair throughout life and stayed on Van Wert church payroll all during his 6-month India itinerary and until August 1957. And, if he wanted to claim martyrdom of his eye......well, that was his own damn fault. He plowed ahead with intense lighting and refused technical advise. IN MY OPINION.........This thread is in the top 5 of exposing wierwille and his cult tactics. These letters show wierwille's deceptive tactics and shenanigans to keep lock-box secrets in place as his "ministry" was crumbling around him 1976-1982. He uses manipulation to try and get corps to feel guilty that "they are abandoning him and not keeping their vow".......letter after letter, one can see how he uses corps, against their better judgment, to sell his soap. This thread should be pinned.

5 days later.......wierwille sends ANOTHER corps letter.........January 2, 1982 "My Dear Way Corps: .......<snip>......[2nd paragraph]......"It always hurts when any believer "leaves" the household, YET the Word still says, 'Therefore seeing we have this ministry [we've got it!] , as we have received mercy [God's withholding merited judgment], we faint not.' ' It is ours. We do not deserve it, but we've got it. God committed it to us, so we are responsible to God; therefore, we are obligated to commit ourselves to it. There is a great and final day of reward throughout all eternity on the threshold. When the Corps has a fuller understanding of rewards, they will stay in fellowship. Speaking in tongues is a constant reminder of eternal rewards." ANOTHER corps letter about people leaving twi.......... And.....this little doozie, "When the Corps has a fuller understanding of rewards, they will stay in fellowship." Yeah, wierhole........like YOU were (cough, cough) IN FELLOWSHIP amassing all those eternal rewards.

December 28, 1981............[You do not have permission to add comments] BUT......here at GreaseSpot Café, I do......................................... "Dear Way Corps: (I have difficulty knowing to whom to send and address this letter. Read it and see if you are the one.) Perhaps other people feel the same way I do but there are sure times when I ask myself the question WHY? Why do people whom you love and whom you want to help so much, and have helped so much in the past, continue to hurt you unknowingly or even unwillingly? You wonder why you continue to bleed your heart out for them. You wonder why one continues after over 40 years, to get up in the morning at 4 or 5 o'clock and go to work just to bless people. Yes, one just wonders "why?" But, then somehow or other I think of my life and what God has wrought for me personally and in me, and I just keep going on and on." How about looking at it this way............ Mr. Wierwille: (I have no difficulty knowing why I left your cult and sounding the alarm with others here at GSC.) Perhaps other people don't feel the same way I do, but now after more fully discovering your depravity of sin, lusts and sexual predation on so many innocent young corps girls, I find myself shaking my head and saying, "How sick and perverted was he?" Why does an ordained man ravage the flock of which he, hypocritically, deems to protect? Why does he plagiarize and steal from sources constantly rather than turn to God and His divine love, mercy and inspiration? And, I wonder why did all of his enablers.....Howard Allen, Don Wierwille, Chris Geer, Craig Martindale, Johnnie Townsend (and lots of others) and seductress women in his stable..... continued to succumb to this demented and destructive circle of evil. Yet, here at GSC.......we've connected the dots these past 17 years and continue to sound the alarm for others. And, even to this day.....the lies and plagiarist doctrine in twi and its splinter groups needs a counterpoint. So, it encourages many of us to keep going on and on."

DWBH.......yep, deceptively calculating scum. Marginalize the dissenters.......and isolate them from the herd. Do not allow open discussion or questioning directors' policies and motives. The directors are always right......even when they're wrong. All those closing in on "retirement years" are liabilities and leeches. No money spent on itineraries, community causes, or tragedies.... Hoard money......claiming "believing" meets your need. I still haven't heard many details about this R&R group since May 2017................but it's looking like another mini-exodus. Having endured 16 years of rivenbark's crap-sandwiches.....it looks like "retirees" are no longer willing to eat at Rose&Donna's Dive.

Tom and Marilyn Kn-upp....... In 1981, my wife and I were at hq and traveled with Tom and Marilyn to the Dayton airport to pick up Nsimba (Andre) Zakompani and Kinkela (Roger) Lutambi who'd flown in from Zaire, Africa. After leaving the airport, we stopped at an Ice Cream Shoppe for a treat. It was truly amazing to see two young men who hadn't the faintest idea what an ice cream cone was when Tom ordered them each one.....and handed it to them. Priceless. Well, Tom and Marilyn...........going forward, may you two be enriched with treats and memories beyond the walls of the cult.

Perhaps, I should state this more clearly......... The disaster was wierwille...............his "works of the flesh" in strife, striker, drunkard, predator, etc. were hiding in the shadows.

The list is long.........of those trying to revive the twit-corpse. Let me define "twit-corpse".........imo, it is the semblance of wierwille's pseudo-Christianity with home-based fellowships, class-structure and pyramid hierarchy wherein all tithes and offerings are funneled to one location. The mystique of wierwille is revered in an honorary position right up there with the Apostle Paul, ie. "the 20th Century Man of God." It matters NOT that splinter groups have disconnected from the central-cult........they are STILL trying to "revive and restore" the nostalgia remnant of their spiritual relevance in life. Many of these leaders in splinter cults are deceivers, frauds, hucksters and opportunists. They are hirelings who have self-serving motives and interests. To them, they've simply hooked their wagon to the wierwille name and clichés, because they know it swathes the greatest number of loyal followers. It matters not that wierwille was a drunkard, sexual predator and bully.......... didn't wierwille teach in pfal that critics would focus on the man, and even the ties he wore? /sarc Chris Geer was given the most vaunted platform to revive the twit-corpse. The then-trustees, Craig, Don and Howard, allowed Geer to stand on the main stage at Corps Week 1986 and read his poop paper........declaring that 90% of USA corps were "off the word." The Way International needed revival and restoration.........see?? Right. There. In. Plain. Sight. Leaders and corps, even the trustees.......NEED TO STRIVE to "get back to the word." Of course, Geer hopped on the next plane and headed back across the Atlantic........never clarifying the ambiguity of his bloated pontifications and pronouncements. Sure, it was 90%........not 91%. Bullschit. Soon, John Lynn and others had their version of how to revive and restore. What needed reviving? What needed restoring? Hearts? Attitudes? Behavior? Doctrine? Practice? Why did walter c. dismiss the paper on adultery as "new research?" New Research??? So, add walter and johnnie to the geer camp to revive and restore.... Keep it generic. Keep it ambiguous. Keep control of the masses. Region men had the greatest access to loyal followers.......and take full advantage of it. Doug Seed. Vince Finnegan. Steve Sann. Others. Keep soft-pedaling the wierwille clichés and classes........baby steps........as they keep distancing themselves from the mother-cult. Slick. Deceptive. Calculating. Years later, John Shroyer deems it necessary to revive and restore "the good, old days of The Way International".......you know, those feel-good-about-your-spiritual-self-days. Soft spoken and compassion helps to win over scores of others........and CFF, at Troy, Ohio, just down the road from the twit-cult starts a-cooking the brew. Heck, even a couple wierwille kids see their calling in this new revival movement. Fast forward................May 2017. After eight months of deliberation, the Revival and Restoration Group have their Q&A Meeting. With Bob and Dottie Moynihan, Michael Fort, the Horneys and Sheltons to spearhead this dissent........are they trying to resuscitate The Way International Cult? Are they trying to affix Victor Paul Wierwille as the arbiter of truth? Were they trying to underscore that Rivenbark was a micro-manager.............and give wierwille a pass on all this? Gawd, these guys are SO LAME and DISILLUSIONED. Just heard..................that Tom Kn-upp went down to meet/teach at an R&R group and is now, on twi's shun-list [note: twit-cult is making EVERY EFFORT to avoid using mark/avoid tactic and label in the public domain. Probably, has legal backlash.....]. Wowsers.........30 years of trying to revive the twit-corpse and that's the thanks he gets. Back-stabbers...... 30 freakin' years.....................

What happened on the other side of the camera.........during the filming of pfal? How wise WAS the wise-one? Or, rather......blow up lots of balloons for this blunder-fest. The filming of pfal.....and blunders

The whole premise of "anniversary weekend, 75th Anniversary, or anniversary sunday"........is skewed from the get-go. It centers the attention around its founding......and founder. Then, the cult deems it necessary to expound on its founding/founder. Attention is drawn to when wierwille "left his church".......and started the twit-cult. Divisive in nature........it subtly points followers to stay with twi and avoid churches. Do churches have anniversary weekends to signify their origin? Of course, cults do what cults gotta do................in-house promotion. How many in the New Knoxville community are going to come out and help celebrate this "60th Anniversary"???...........(1957-2017) I mean, c'mon...........twi is grandstanding the whole event. What say the New Knoxville community?

Automatons.............on a cult train. The twit-cult is going to keep running this freak show as long as in-breds pay homage and fill the seats. Good golly, Miss Molly........can't they summon up some brain cells to connect enough thoughts together to see the sham? And, in reference to what would have been "the 46th freaking time" of anniversary attendance............seemingly, ole Mr. Moneyhands will NOT be attending his 47th (or 48th?) one this year.....since they slapped him with that deadly m/a label. Hey, Mr. Necromancer.........would you please get Victor shined, shaved and dressed in his Sunday-best. The directors want him center-stage at this Anniversary's "75th" (cough, cough) Celebration. Yeah, summoning the dead continues to be the staple ingredient of cult worship......and this is the auditorium that bears his name.

The ghost of wierwille's past..........will be the "present truth" roaming thru the cult house. Bewitched.........and they don't even know it.

Twi's "75th Anniversary" is laced with lies....... In 1942, wierwille was already discouraged with his church pastorate work........Outreach beyond vpw's congregation So, he gathers together a few kids to sing some songs as a prelude to his teaching a radio broadcast.......whooptee do Wierwille patterned his radio teachings from Rev. Charles Fuller.......wierwille copied/plagiarized all thru his life. Old man wierwille paid for wierwille's education and degree mill doctorate.......and 1948 new car. Vpw stayed on Van Wert payroll until August 1957.......and twi "officially" started in December 1957. No originality, no vision, no risk-taking, no "founder" of anything...........all manufactured/fabricated image. The conjuring of the wierwille ghost will be heralded during twi's anniversary weekend.......count on it. The mystique of wierwille will be glorified throughout the auditorium and sounded forth on the sunday teaching tapes for all the sycophant followers to relish this manufactured marvel. They will, once again, hear of this "man of God's" life.......his relentless devotion to research and rightly divided the word of truth, the pfal class, the corps program........and how he blazed a trail of glory that, still, is beyond comprehension. I mean, heck........God had to wait for nearly 2,000 years before a man like wierwille would rise and follow in the pattern of the Great Apostle Paul. Praise be the name, wierwille. sarc/ The cult will laud his name to the rafters........for he, and he alone, set the cult in motion. But.......who's gonna ask........why, if wierwille was SO GREAT, did some 510 clergy leave twi? Why have some 3,100 corps abandoned and/or splintered away from the mother-cult? Why were the wierwille-corps letters lamenting the fact that notable leaders were abandoning ship as early as 1975? Or, why are things so pathetic and boring.....IF the spirit of the living God is 100% behind "the faithful remnant"....the "true household of God.?" Could it possibly be............that conjuring of the cult's ghost is the ONLY FORM of cohesion that the group has? The manufacturing of the wierwille-mystique gives the cult a semblance of relevance? Spiritualists and twi...........one and the same.

Evidence..........that wierwille's corps leaders were bailing in 1976, 1977, 1978, etc..... All those wierwille-apologists who attend splinter groups OR plaster things on Facebook are cult-sycophants. Wierwille's letters, over and over, were lamenting the reality THAT CORPS LEADERS WERE LEAVING TWI.......year after year. The only reason that this is NOT wide-spread news is wierwille instigated a cover-up......trying to put it in "lockbox territory." How damn convenient!! When wierwille could NO longer contain the hemorrhaging, he resorted to his "corps letters." The last card in his hand was........"woe is me, that my corps leaders are deserting me".........ugh. A con-artist to the end.

Some people may not be aware that TWI will be renamed at their "75th Anniversary" in October to .....................Brown 75. What a sheetload of disappointment to one and all.........everything flowed downhill.

Re-purchase class materials, re-take classes....... You mean like.........green class syllabi, then red class syllabi, Someday, their kids and grandkids will take blue class syllabi, then black class syllabi..............

Yeah......moving into "present truth" doctrine was simply the evolution of a cult. With each passing year, the cult leader garnered more allegiance......and his/her words were lauded and repeated in teachings and mag articles. Substitute "present truth" with dianetics..........and, what difference does it make?

The "present truth" gained steam around 1994......as martindale scoffed at former leaders and twi-musicians and their old-wineskin material. And especially, when the yearly theme [1995/1996] was "The Promised Land of the Prevailing Word"............or something like that. In other words, keep your eyes focused on the here and now! The current times and circumstances demand "present truth" proclamation.....from whence the spirit of God is at work in grand poohbear, martindale. "Present Truth" = Red Syllabi.........WAP series. Martindale got ousted. Rosalie sat in big chair. Twi re-established grand wizardry.....grand mog-status to wierwille and the bedazzled followers continued to be mesmerized by the flames of idle, ....idol-glory.

Rev. Charles Fuller........ p.38 Born Again to Serve............"Another evangelist who had inspired Rev. Wierwille with his great musical ability was Rev. Charles Fuller. Rev. Wierwille had stated, 'I listened to Charlie Fuller's radio program, 'The Old-Fashioned Revival Hour,' ever Sunday morning before I went to church or to my office. He inspired me so with his music. He was an evangelist who had great charisma, great ability, and one of the first preachers involved in radio. Rev. Fuller was such a humble man and wanted to bless people. Why wouldn't the spirit of God work within him? It did." ~~~~~~~~~~ Like WW stated..........Vesper Chimes had NOTHING to do with the class-based twi, plagiarized from Leonard.

How hard is it to find GSC and other opposing viewpoints if John Lynn [or fill in the blank of splinter group leader] is still SINGING WIERWILLE'S PRAISES and DECEIVING others with weekly teachings? Or, pressuring people to sign up for Momentus and its gut-spilling public confessions? Maybe, hobnob with CFF and the wierwille kids.....and then, venture out to Mississippi and get drawn into S.O.W.E.R.S. and learn from the likes of a Walter Cummins? My point..........these hirelings and deceivers make it harder to exit from the wierwille-cult indoctrination. In my opinion..........Paul Allen blazed a trail with Waydale and then, GreaseSpot Café took the baton and broke the stranglehold, not Shroyer, Clapp, Finnegan, Panarello, etc. etc. Many of us have had our share of disagreements with several who've come to this site STILL siding with "the good ole days" when wierwille walked the earth. Just when you'd think that these splinters have run their course........ANOTHER ONE pops up. Why? What gives? And further, every splinter seemingly wants to hitch its wagon to the wierwille legacy......whatever that is. Then, two of the wierwille namesake, J.P. and Sara, join forces with the CFF-outfit.......Kevin quits his job as an architect rallying to wife's [Sara] ambitions at CFF and J.P. helps spearhead the S.O.W.E.R.S. operation as his son, victor paul, becomes the face of way corps training II. OMG.........could the cult splinter groups devise a more incestuous relationship to deceive others??? Money. Vanity. Deception. Lording over others. What are the reasons for all of these splinter groups? Sure........they ALL want to help others. Pppffffttttt. Even that Corps Website......you couldn't badmouth wierwille or corps training. When Paul Allen got bumrushed off twi's grounds.........he did something TOTALLY DIFFERENT than all other "helpful splinter groups." Paul set up Waydale to strategically and systematically attack The Way International doctrine AND craig martindale. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Yeah.......depending on the splinter group "LEADERSHIP", the splinter can have all the markings of mother-cult, or worse! Once on payroll.....with perks, power over others, dominance, adulation, and a subset world of their choosing......the splinter group leaders do NOT want to relinquish their positions of power. Who has seen any splinter group leaders who were altruistic? John Lynn? Gerald Wrenn? Dale Sides? John Schoenheit? And now, in May 2017.......along comes this "Revival and Restoration" group. I seriously doubt that these folk will garner much of a following......as they squabble over who goes on payroll, guidelines and path forward. The cult's DNA will poison this little subset group as well. The internet and social media is debunking the splinter group methodology to Christian service. Enuff said.

75th anniversary.......er, technically its the 60th anniversary of twi. August 1957 was when wierwille stepped away (was fired?) from pastor of Van Wert church. Even Mrs. Wierwille notes in her book that "officially" twi was started in December of 1957. Leave it to the cult.......to even LIE about its official beginning.

Sunday Teaching Service. Sit in our auditorium and feel like the only one there to hear the teaching.......and you just might be.