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Yeah, imagine that.............in 1960, no less.

"Dr. Wierwille so very much desired to see the people who had left us come back, though I don't remember one who actually did return to the ministry." [p. 257]

The Diamond Club............. "In April 1960 Dr. Wierwille first instituted the Diamond Club. Dr. Wierwille was looking for seventy-five people who would stand with him, support the ministry, and move the Word as a team. He wrote, 'An inner circle of true believers could do so much more. I believe if I could have, by the grace of God, seventy-five individuals or families to join me for one year in THE DIAMOND CLUB, we could do what hundreds thus far just have promised and talked about. The Diamond Club will be made up of those who really believe in the ministry of The Way and pledge themselves for one year to pray each day for me and the ministry as well as share the first tenth (tithe) of their weekly or monthly checks with The Way for its continuation and growth.' The Diamond Club never had meetings and received no public attention." [p. 254] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As support fizzled away from "board of directors" ......limb & branch leaders...... vic was ready to institute another "pledge your money" program. Only one paragraph and pledge in Mrs. W's book.......and that's it.

Oh, that's right..........Troy is just north of there.

Remodeling at the Farm.............. The wierwille home was remodeled the summer of 1960 "The remodeling was quite radical, as parts of the house were at least one hundred years old. We jacked up the entire house and dug a complete basement. We then added the southeast corner on the first floor to become Dr. Wierwille's office with a deck on the second floor. We added ten feet on the north end of the house, two stories with a full basement. This made the size of the house adequate for offices as well as living quarters for our family, which temporarily included Uncle Harry." [p. 251] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ page 252.......... "At the next meeting of the Board of Directors, on February 21, 1960, a few members were absent. And again at the annual meeting in June these same people did not return or care to be members of the board any longer. They did not agree with the decisions of the Board of Trustees concerning having the headquarters on the farm." Board of Directors = limb & branch leadership In just two years, the field leadership were abandoning wierwille Big schism on decision to move headquarters to the farm and not Troy area Isn't it interesting......... that CFF is located in Troy, OH and two of the adult wierwille children are involved there?

page 249................ "The year 1959 had been a full schedule of outreach and classes. The following are the foundational classes on Power for Abundant Living taught in 1959.........." January Arcadia, FL ... Troy, OH February Arcadia, FL March St. Paris, OH [Mal George] May Piqua, OH June Piqua, OH Jun 14-Jul 26 Calgary, Alberta [2 classes] August Columbus, OH October Troy, OH November Jamaica, NY

On the same day as the letter posted previously on this thread, Wierwille also wrote a letter to all board members. According to its by-laws at the time, the Board of Directors was "a fellowship of all head presbyters of each limb and branch plus such elected directors as the Board of Trustees and International Headquarters deemed necessary." In 1959, the Board of Directors [on the field] was the equivalent of The Way Corps leadership......except then, the Board gave more input. Years later, in the 70's..........the Board of Trustees allowed very little input from the field corps. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Way . . . Inc., International D r. V i c t o r P a u l W i e r w i l l e, P r e s i d e n t Branches: United States, England, India April, 1959 Dear Member of the Board of Directors: Greetings to you in the precious Name of our living Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! You will be interested in knowing that we are having good spiritual sessions in the Arcadia Group and next week I hope I can interest the Fort Myers believers in the greatness of this ministry. Having had a couple of weeks now since the Board Meeting has given all of us time to think. As Founder and President of The Way, I am seriously alarmed at the apparent secret intents and purposes of some which under lay the recent meeting but which did not emerge open and 'above board.' I am deeply sorry for all of us if such was the case. It sounds and tastes too much like a 'church board meeting' with which I have a well rounded experience. The Way Board of Directors must keep their sights spiritually and ethically higher. Satan is constantly trying to bring to bear his forces of criticism, doubt, questioning the sincerity and honesty of the leaders, etc. If we give satan a toehold he will soon have a foothold, not only in our lives but manifested in the greatness of the ministry of the Word of God. Spiritually, and in every other way, THE WAY is set up to do a world job of teaching. Our incorporation papers, our constitution and our by-laws, were, I believe, guided by the Lord and are as perfect as is possible for humans to set up. We all know that no organization is better than the people who run it. I can not vouch for The Way and what it may or may not do or be after I am gone; but so long as I live I will do my utmost to keep it running in the fashion in which it will be a glory to God. Perhaps if I shared with you the reasons and purposes for the Board we could be overcomers in all things. You will recall that "The Way setup" has been handed out in both printed and mimeographed form and a copy or copies have been in your possession. If you have forgotten you may obtain a new copy from Headquarters. It stipulates that the Board of Directors is 'a fellowship of all head presbyters of each limb and branch plus such elected directors as the Board of Trustees and International Headquarters deem necessary.' Note first of all, it is 'a fellowship,' meaning all must be in one accord and 'of one mind and one opinion' as the Word says - - all in the same boat rowing or sailing in the same direction. No one can conscientiously and honestly serve on the Board who would feel or be other wise. The board is the vital link in a chain between the individuals and groups of The Way, bringing with them into each Board Meeting the best of everything from the groups, communities, and sections of the Country and World which they represent. The board brings to The Way the spiritual enthusiasm of its members everywhere, how best to go on to work out the purposes of The Way. The Board contributes suggestions, plans, programs of procedure, and any other thing they may have which would help the ministry. The members of the Board of Directors form the representation to and from the people. Every director should be informed as to the interests, purposes, procedures and desires of The Way ministry. The directors in turn enthusiastically invigorate the people in their groups and communities. The directors answer their questions and help them to keep going and growing. Furthermore, and this is one of the greatest privileges for serving on the Board. Take as an illustration that the trustees have decided on a course of action for a certain task. One man or woman on the Board who is qualified and interested should be given this responsibility for its development. He could be and should be entitled to choose his fellow workers to get that particular job established and done. In this way, according to our set up, there should be a great activity and cooperation and many things should be accomplished cumulatively through different yet in united activities for the advancement of The Way ministry by the Board of Directors. On June the 7th will be the Yearly Meeting. We are not interested in the negatives and doubts, but interested in developing the positive and good, so as to be able to do a better work for the Lord in carrying out the ministry whereunto He has called us and wherein He has privileged us to serve. I think it is a privilege to serve on the Board of this wonderful Bible ministry. I trust you think so too. When we come together for the meeting on the first Sunday in June may you be inspired deeply within yourself to not only represent the people but to represent God in the Board and to bring to bear positive and suggestive materials and information which will help all of us to more effectively and worthily carry out the purposes and intents of The Way ministry world-wide. The Lord bless you real good! Sincerely, In His Service, VPW/rb Victor Paul Wierwille .

Page 234 (continued)......... "Both Eddie and Donna Doersam stated that they and the Columbus branch gave their money to be used in the Lord's work for The Way Ministry wherever needed. Issues kept coming up, and underlying doubts and distrust from certain members of the board surfaced. The pros and cons were discussed about whether The Way should be engaged in any secular business such as farming or the raising of nutria (fur-bearing animals). Dr. Wierwille said that the farm had been to the Lord's work and that the business side and spiritual side of the ministry of The Way couldn't be separated because we had to have money to operate with. One of the members of the board observed that if anyone other than the Wierwilles had given a farm, she felt it would have been gratefully received." "Several board members thought that the people who give money would like to have a report on where their money went, how it was being used. H. E. then said that an annual financial statement had always been available to the board and to those who requested copies. But to allay people's concerns, Ermal Owens suggested that the financial records of the past be audited. Dr. Wierwille agreed that Ermal Owens's suggestion was good since there was an apparent doubt about the integrity of the Secretary-Treasurer and suggested that a committee be appointed by the board to hire an independent auditor and have the books audited for the annual meeting scheduled in June." ~~~~~~~~~~~ ......... Issues kept coming up, and underlying doubts and distrust from certain members of the board surfaced. Oh My !!

HELP ME, HELP ME.........pay my bills.

Some background that preceded this letter.........page 234 "Since the November 16, 1958 meeting, believers had again worked on plans for starting The Way Biblical Seminary. One proposed location for the seminary was the Wierwille farm. The solicitation of funds to begin work on the seminary found resistance at the meeting of the Miami Valley Group. The Way branch in Troy, Ohio, said that they wanted the farm of The Way in New Knoxville to be kept separate from the spiritual arm of the ministry. They wanted to be sure that their money was going to help spread the work of the ministry and not to help pay off the mortgage at the farm or for the business of the farm. They wanted a seminary to be started but at a location other than the Wierwille farm." "In responding to this concern, H. E. Wierwille gave a detailed report on how the farm had been given to The Way by his brother Victor and himself. None of the money from any graduates of the Power for Abundant Living classes had been used thus far in work done at the farm or for business related to the farm." In reading thru mrs. w's accounting of this time period.......it is clear that Troy, Piqua, Dayton and Columbus areas were growing hubs of outreach. Wierwille taught an "advanced class" in Troy, OH from June 30 - July 11, 1958. Still "headquartered" on Washington Street in Van Wert at this time, plans were formulating towards establishing "a new headquarters" at the Wierwille Homestead now that Old Man Wierwille died and the farm was inherited by Vic, Harry and Reuben. Dissention was growing.....and trust to keep money separate from the business side of the farm was evaporating. The First Exodus of TWI.............was the Troy/Piqua believers.

page 239..........wierwille writes this letter to confront those who were pushing back against the plan to make the wierwille farmstead "the new headquarters.' Also, there were some who were walking away or not financially supporting his efforts. April 1959 "...but Satan hindered..." I Thessalonians 2:18 Dear Graduate of Power for Abundant Living Class: Satan's opposition to the ministry of The Way is strong evidence we must be on the right track. If you are one interested in The Way ministry and what it teaches and stands for, Satan will do everything in his power to discourage you and prevent you from supporting it regularly and faithfully. He will bring doubt into your mind concerning the honesty and integrity of its leaders, its plans and its works. The devil knows that you will not only receive the finest academic and biblical training and teaching on the accuracy of God's Word through The Way ministry, but that you will acquire a certainty and assurance in your life you never possessed until after you came in contact with The Way. The devil knows the worth of a soul saved and filled with the 'Power of God,' but he wants us to forget that, and to look at the material side especially the money. That way Satan can keep us giving as little as possible in supporting it and so keep it from spreading. You are my only contact for spreading this ministry. If you fail me, then in your life time and mine we will have written our own story. Don't let Satan so soon make you forget the spiritual light and power and physical and even material blessings that have come to you because of my ministry. There is only one question I want you to ask yourself and by your answer you will know and so will I, how much The Way ministry has you as a co-worker. Do you believe in The Way ministry and what it stands for? If your answer is yes, you will not only pray and believe with me, but you will write to me and support my efforts with your tithes and offerings. I have given my ALL for the sake of ministering the wonderful Word of God. I am glad and happy to minister to you the spiritual food from the Word. Surely you should not begrudge me your material support. We operate the business end of The Way ministry more economically than any Christian organization I know. We have only two salaried employees, my secretary Rhoda Becker, and my personal assistant, Malvin George. Both are doing twice as much work as should be required of them. I need these two helpers and we should really have two more people on our staff --- but Satan hinders. Here is how your support helps: Not one penny of your money has been used in The Way farm or in the business connected with it. It is used to meet current expenses including the operation of Headquarters, salaries, foreign missions and home missions, necessary but limited, office equipment and publications. HERE IS WHAT YOUR ADDED INTEREST WOULD HELP DO: Get Malvin George out teaching full time. He is spiritually prepared to teach Classes on Power for Abundant Living. The only reason he isn't out full time is because it takes money and Satan has hindered. Get other people academically ready to teach others. This takes not only a location, but the staff to do it. As far as I am concerned I know God has given us the location, all we need is the friends who really are thankful for what they have received and learned and are willing to help us. Help me to keep the financial pressure off of me by meeting our current expenses on time. Today we are $629.30 in the red. This would not be a source of burden to me if Satan did not hinder our people who have received from me. People many times say, 'V.P. shouldn't have anything to do with the material end.' I assure you I wouldn't have if the necessary material needs were in. Down through the years, from time to time, my children had to draw their savings from their anticipated future education out of the bank to get the current expenses paid. It hurts my personal pride to write this to you, but it's the truth. Don't you really feel that my children should not have to do this? Don't you think I ought to take care of my family? Don't I have even this right? Through the years The Way has helped many young men and women financially through The Way Student Aid Foundation, but not one penny has been offered to my son who is now in college preparing for the ministry, nor will I ever allow my son to receive one cent. But wouldn't you say that the people whose lives have been blessed by my ministry should see to it that my children have their savings restored? The Way needs a permanent place for Headquarters and since we have the farm which is ideally located, from all transportational points of view, I would like to establish our Headquarters there and live there with my family, and start training people in a small way maybe, but at least that way we would get started. After I am gone it may be you or your son who will live there to direct the activities of The Way. I am sorry that Mrs. Bomholt and Mrs. Wiley met with such opposition among some of you among whom I have bled my heart out. I don't want you to do anything you don't want to do. You need not be in favor or financially support the establishing and revamping of the two houses at the farm, you can send your contributions in and 'ear mark' it for any purpose you desire for it to go, and for that purpose or purposes it will be used as it has always been used. There are so many needs I have listed a few, if you desire to know other needs The Way is endeavoring to carry out spiritually, write to me and I will give you details. Also any question you may have regarding The Way, its work or ministry, if you will write me or see me I will answer your questions. Don't let your questions or doubts defeat The Way ministry. I need you and God needs you if I am to do the work in a larger way, to which He has called me. I thank God for everyone of you who have faithfully stood by me to help and I know God will not only bless you now but reward you in the resurrection. God bless you. I believe I can say to you what Paul said to the believers in Corinth. Will you please read the first five verses of I Corinthians Chapter 2. These are my words to you and may God have mercy upon us for so soon forgetting what He has done for us in Christ Jesus. Sincerely, In His Service, Victor Paul Wierwille P.S. Before you go to bed tonight will you write me and then having written me please read I Corinthians 3:4-11 and then pray for me and the ministry of His Word. God loves you and I do and I love to teach and study His Word. .

Mrs. Wierwille's book gives a listing of foundational classes run in 1958....... January Fort Myers, FL February Arcadia, FL April Columbus, OH June Van Wert, OH August New Lyme, OH "..... Kitchener, Ontario, Canada [Mal George] "..... Covington, OH "..... Piqua, OH September Dayton, OH October Columbus, OH "..... Urbana, OH -- Mal George taught during day, Vpw taught nights November Jamaica, NY *Note: Dick and Dee Fischbach [Dorothea's sister] were living in Arcadia, FL **Question: Except for about 20 faithful............where did all these grads go? Doesn't everyone become committed when they hear pfal?

The reason for this thread is to point out the blatant lies stemming from headquarters. Mr. Wierwille stated that he began "the way ministry" with the first broadcast of Vesper Chimes: October 3, 1942 Mrs. Wierwille stated in her book that twi and "A New Headquarters" began at 649 S. Washington Street: December 19, 1957 Mr. Wierwille claimed that "they were pioneers"........because they had young people singing in those radio broadcasts [while those he listened to by Rev. Charles Fuller did not]. Mrs. Wierwille's book: Page 1...................... "The idea of writing my husband's biography didn't originate with me. I was asked to do it. Previously when a biography was mentioned, I had thought I would be able to contribute to one. I was very aware that no one else could accurately relate Dr. Wierwille's life without my input. He and I were raised in the same community and lived much of our lives together. I felt I knew his life better than anyone else and therefore could reconstruct it most fully and authentically." So, who you going to believe? Victor Paul Wierwille or Dorothea Kipp Wierwille? To look at the Vesper Chimes broadcast as twi's beginning when wierwille was a pastor at St. Jacob's Evangelical and Reformed Church in Payne, Ohio stretches credulity to the limit. In no way, shape or manner did victor paul wierwille have any inkling of a "class-based, independent ministry" in 1942. Wierwille was rooted in the denominational structure of the church......and by listening to Rev. Fuller's radio broadcast each week, wierwille crafted this plagiarist path to get his voice heard to a wider audience. No revelation from above. No originality. Just wierwille studying the religious landscape to up his influence. Hiding In Plain Sight......is the substantiated anniversary date, documented in her book no less, by Dorothea Kipp Wierwille: December 19, 1957. So, why do the directors lay claim to the flippant and not the obvious? Dr. Wierwille made the claim that Oct. 3, 1942 was when "twi was founded." Can't go back and correct the record.........the cult never retracts anything Who cares if this cult wants to fanaticize its beginning? Don't all cults? Besides.........NO ONE reads mrs. w's book for details. It's a picture book. lol And if they can't even get THIS right.......from a "biblical research" organization?

The cult directors will file this letter.......then tweak it and use next year. Same generic wayspeak. Will the gullible ever notice this has been going on for decades? Institutionalized "freedom".........

FIFY...................... Dear Faithful Sycophants of The Cult: God has nothing to do with our scam.....but it sure is a good lead in towards deception, ain't it? On the occasion of the Seventy-fifth Anniversary of The Way International, .....soon-to-be 60th Anniversary of our plagiarist cult [December 19, 1957----according to Mrs. W's historical accounting to be exact] we could care less about you and your families. Please keep sending in your money, though. Our hearts are filled with deceit and, even though some 30 Thousand have exited since our heyday in 1984......we still like our gravy train. Because of the plagiarist efforts started by our Founding President, Vic The Man, and his wife, Dorothea......we here at headquarters live a life of ease and sordid gluttony . Men, women, and children are still being taken in by our scam......but that damn GreaseSpot Café internet site is doing significant damage to alert others. Stay off the internet and tell all at your twigs that the internet is full of devil spirits. We encourage you to keep selling our classes and programs—it is making a difference! This cult gig is the greatest! We have so much time on our hands to dilly and dally around the shopping malls and restaurants here in Ohio. Heck, we've probably eaten at nearly every new place that's hit the market in the last ten years. And, we are thinking of heading back to the Bahamas, but need to check on that since those devil hurricanes went thru there. But, if we go.......we will send you another picture. Please pray for us constantly.........the devil is nipping at our heels. Feeding at the trough and lovin' it, Rosalie Rivenbark and Donna, my BFF Jean-Yves......my underling Billy Greene.....can you believe he's still around? Johnny Rupp......he believes what we tell him

Oh, for God's sakes.................barf. And, why is rosa-lie's name listed FIRST? What's little lapdog delisle doing letting her run the show? Is he the damn president or isn't he? Look at the underlings under the Rosalie signature letter........Jean-Yves, Billy Greene, and Ruppy.

Whether it's the WAP class, the FLAP class or the CRAP class........it doesn't matter to the cult. The class is the mesmerizing monomania to which all in the cult bestow regurgitated renown. The clichés gain a life of their own.....repeated over and over, in the cult magazine, in home fellowships and sunday teachings. The repetition drowns out one's surroundings......drudgery and monotony and misery......and captivates the collective marching of symbolic syllogisms.

.........Wierwille exemplified the works of the flesh, not walking by the spirit. He committed adultery and sexual predation, assaulting the foundation of love as Christ loved. He lived a life of uncleanness, not uprightness of heart. Wierwille lusted after idolatry, not seeking the altar of the Living God. He stirred up strife and seditions, not comfort and exhortations. Wierwille reveled in drunkenness, not the quenching of thirst from the Fountain of Living Waters. He was a cherry-picker of selective verses, not the harvester of fruit of the spirit. Wierwille stoked the fires of his night owl-meetings to send indoctrinated corps members to replicate his craft.

Thanks again.....DWBH Love it when you post!

T-Bone........it comes across as a narcissist wanting to gain background knowledge and leverage over others to lord over them [sexual abuse, spiritual abuse, or blackmail/silence those who exited]. Whatever wierwille's motives.......it stems from a pathological need that served him. By 1979, approximately 2,000 corps were grads/family corps/in-residence......plus a couple hundred corps spouse [who would also need to write this "From Birth to Corps" paper. Did he even read them? Why do I get the impression that wierwille skimmed over most all of them and set the "juicy" ones aside?

Not only is it "like" an RC confessional.........it is written documentation. Who knows how many times wierwille passes these around for others to read.............

Grace / T-Bone......thanks for your replies. These corps letters are of interest to me.......because they give insight into wierwille's mindset, without being edited to death. It seems to me, wierwille's unfiltered ramblings were left, basically, intact by his secretaries [who didn't want any confrontation by correcting/editing his ramblings]. Also........these letters document, time and time again, that CORPS WERE LEAVING......and wierwille's only response was to play the "woe is me, I'm doing my best to love them" card.......ALL THE WHILE he is still sexually preying on corps women. He continued to BLATANTLY LIE thru his teeth. Here at GSC, we've got the documentation and first-hand accounts of sexual predation! Those who defend wierwille TO THIS DAY.........are sycophants and opportunists. And, what about those in R&R Group? Are they, too, going to simply take their fight against Rivenbark......and give wierwille a pass? Another wave of wierwille-apologists splintering from the mother-ship......BUT heralding the praises of wierwille? Probably so. Another wave of splinter sycophants.

These corps letters give insight into the unfiltered, pathological mindset of wierwille......... May 24, 1979........... "An idea has been working in my heart that I would like to get started among our Corps. I want a sharing by you---an honest and truthful account of your life. It should be systematically laid out, from your birth to the time you entered The Way Corps training. Entitle your sharing 'The Way For Me: From Birth to the Corps.' I want the where, what, who, when, why and how regarding every major decision point in your life from birth that brought you to the point of entering The Way Corps. For example: I got into sex in the sixth grade; I started drugs when I was 12; I robbed the local liquor store; I was in the Baptist Church; my basketball coach taught me something that changed my life. Paint the picture of what you were in, and vividly relate how you were delivered." Why did wierwille jump to SEX as his first example? Why were the first three examples.......sex, drugs, and robbery? Is there a connection, a pattern as to WHY NOW THESE PERSONAL ACCOUNTINGS?........when, a month before [April 25, 1979], wierwille assures everyone that the "lock box" of his mind is sealed and then, acknowledges that people are leaving the "corps household." Why are people leaving? Are these women who've been sexually assaulted on the motor coach? Are these two corps letters.......April, then May's corps letter......tandem inner-workings of a sexual predator? And, as has been clarified here at GSC.........how many women did wierwille EXPLOIT because of this "idea to write these papers?" Gee........WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE, TO THIS DAY, STILL BELIEVE THAT MARTINDALE WAS THE ONE WHO SCREWED TWI? Then.......when MANY, MANY corps do not send in these papers, wierwille sends a manipulating letter [November 6, 1979] and even takes a swipe at those who DID send in their life's account of "Birth to the Corps." Anyhoo, it just shows how vpw took swipes at ALL the corps no matter the issue. Always, wierwille gauged their "commitment" as a group.... never on an individual basis. The underpinnings of a cult..........group-identity and group-confrontation !!

And further........not only was it accepted as "normal" by young corps...........but most splinter group leaders are STILL singing the praises of wierwille and promoting his doctrines, methods, tactics of manipulation, etc. in their little fiefdom cults. It is clearly one thing to be manipulated and intimidated in one's youth.........BUT now that the curtain has been pulled back, it is downright REPULSIVE to see sycophant splinters herald wierwille's name as founder and "man of god." Thank you Pawtucket......for keeping the doors open here at GSC.

There is nothing like reading the "ORIGINAL" ........before it's translated dozens of different ways by the splinter groups. Bwahahahahaha...................