skyrider

All five could be assigned "leadership" roles. Let's see.....what were those [branch] responsibilities given to us in the corps? Oh yeah.... One person could oversee "lost and found." :)--> One person could oversee "chapel setup." :P--> One person could oversee "plurality palace." --> One person could oversee "snack shop." ;)--> And, the fifth person could oversee "the dish room." :D--> But the most important aspect of being in-residence is to faithfully, unquestionably, punctually, and persistently have your b-u-t-t planted firmly in your assigned seat. Welcome to corps training. skyrider

Are you guys serious? Only fivegraduates from the prevailing household's corps training??? If that's true, it does have a positive side. Just think how simple things would be. 1) All could pile in one car for witnessing jaunts. 2) Stringing five chairs wouldn't take all that long. 3) Kitchen detail would be a snap. 4) Roll call would only take a glance. 5) Learning your corps, on a first-name-basis, would be a breeze. 6) No vicious leadership pressure -- they wouldn't want to toss anyone OUT. etc. etc. With all twi's treachery and deceit, it really is no surprise. (yawn) skyrider

Well, now that I've heard the full extent of this incident -- and all the hassle that came to catcup's doorstep -- I regret posting this and bringing it all back. It never ceases to amaze me how many of us have been harassed by martindale and his behavioral disorders. I know the hurt all too well. skyrider

ex, When I heard about this article from a friend, I tried to find a link to it. Nope, I couldn't locate it. So, I called the paper and ordered a copy. The phone number (216) 986-2500. Sorry, I couldn't be of more help. skyrider

ex, The article doesn't say. Obviously, the 15-year-old quickly recognized him and later, when the mother had found out that lcm was NO LONGER at twi and may have been in the area on the day of the rehearsal, she filed a report with Berea police. No further action was taken by police following the September 2000 incident at the rehearsal. Why was he there? Good question. Skyrider

Although this article outlines an incident that happened four years ago shortly after Martindale was ousted by twi, it also highlights that former followers (ex-twis)are finding new paths. GreaseSpot Cafe is noted in article. Small Newspaper: Parma Sun Post (in Cleveland area) Page: Front Page (with a picture of lcm) Date: September 2, 2004 Name of article: OUT of THE WAY The article starts out as follows: This article is quite long and picks up on page A6. There are five subsections after exposing twi's legalistic standards and deception. The five subsections: 1) A movement grows, 2) 'It was a sign' 3) Martindale's Way, 4) Legal trouble and 5) Words of advice. Other excerpts: "Today, former followers live in a host of area communities, including Cleveland, Parma, Parma Heights, South Euclid, Twinsburg, Wadsworth and Middleburg Heights and Stow. Several ex-Wayers directed blame at Martindale for their disenchantment with a group they joined for spiritual nourishment, saying he demanded strict obedience from followers, enforced a 'mark and avoid' policy against those who strayed, ruled that debt -- even a home mortgage -- was wrong, and prodded some to give as much as half their income to TWI." "Some say they are now leading happy, successful lives -- something they were told was not possible if they dared to leave the movement." In the section "A movement grows" the article outlines, in broad strokes, the history of twi and its general framework. In the section "It was a sign" the article depicts what attracted some to twi and later, why they felt deceived and found it (twi) to be a cult. In the section "Martindale's Way" the article highlights some of Martindale's rantings and his demands for strict obedience and control. In the section "Legal trouble" the article gives an overview of the lawsuit of Paul and Ferne Allen against Martindale and twi and notes the out-of court settlement. Also, this section mentions the second lawsuit which was also settled out of court. And, in the closing section, "Words of advice" it starts off... "Former followers have found a new meeting place accessible via the Internet, where sites such as GreaseSpot Cafe(emphasis added) let them post messages, give first-hand accounts of their experiences and get TWI information from an outsider's viewpoint." Quite the article. If this information has been posted before, then I didn't see it. Just so-yous-know......I was a regular poster on Waydale and GS and changed my handle with my new computer. :)--> Skyrider