skyrider

I can soooo relate. Every book, every movie, every church teaching........I was critiquing and criticising it. Seemingly, nothing measured up to "this ministry that taught me the word." Lo and behold, the scales fell from my eyes and the elitism melted away..........and I saw how twi had laced their classes with PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. Slick vic's con was GONE.........and the prison doors opened.

Yeah, T-Bone......what a detour in life, eh? Twas a wild and insane detour to follow those signs to wierwille road and hiway 29.

In the late 70s/ early 80s, I was a staffer at twi's hq......and imprisoned by elitism. To me, nothing outside of twi mattered......it was the center of my universe. With hindsight perspective, I now see how the elitism rung was higher up the ladder than the "read your bible and help others" rung. The indoctrination of the corps program turned my desire to serve God and His people inward.....and solely, twi-service. Vpw and Lcm both fanned the flames of this elitist mindset .... year after year. All "service" becomes SELF-service. And, serving the top brass is equivalent to full commitment and duty... a twisted perversion of true giving. It's like.....an elitist mindset is the perfect prison. No bars are needed, no further training........only a quick snap of the whip of allegiance and the subject obeys. Why is it........that so many newly-graduated corps are ASSIGNED to hq staff? Several reasons for sure..... but one of them is conditioned allegiance with an elitist mindset. This alone keeps them locked into the staff ranks for a good decade or so. Many of my fellow staff co-workers are STILL there..... 26 years later. Long gone from the staffer's thinking is the biblical truth of "Go, Stand and Speak." After all, the hub of activity, the "center of God's will", the "holy ground of the prevailing word" is........just south of New Knoxville, Ohio. Therefore, COME AND SEE.......same as it was years ago. For years and years, I rarely talked to my earthly family, missed countless weddings, reunions, funerals, get-togethers, holidays, etc.......all in name of serving this elitist mindset. After all, "we were the best".....vpw told us so. Elitism: The Perfect Prison.

Yeah.........around 1978/79 there WAS a huge push on "obey the man of God" doctrine. For me, RED FLAGS WERE FLYING......but, silly me, to think that I should notice corps coordinators promoting this seductive doctrine into the fabric of the corps program. And, in 1978.......vpw and lcm had to get waist-deep into that situation where three 8th corps guys had done some research that really ruffled vpw's feathers. Anyways, after that...........the clamps really came down on doing independent research. On several occasions, martindale scoffed at the corps' ability to even do any research that would be noteworthy. Yeah, hiway.......by 1978, legalism in twi had gained legs.

That evolution of mind conditioning and groupthink mentality that saturated twi...........was wierwille's brain storm of control: aka the indoctrination of way corps leadership. After 10-12 years of corps programming and developing a hierarchy of yes-men......the tipping point was reached and micromanagement of the masses was achieved.

Renaming.......was the heart and soul of twi. Sex wasn't sex...........it was "meeting the need of someone who could spiritually handle it." Or, like.... "putting your finger in someone's ear." Retemorizing.............wasn't memorizing. It was retaining something in your memory. Corps Alumni............was stripping a corps grad of his/her status and earned recognition AND labeling them as a substandard corps grad. Churches.................was the devil's lair, run by seed men. Word over the world.......was accomplished in martindale's hall of mirrors. :blink:

Besides.........how many career opportunities are out there where one can...1) sit at a home office, 2) dabble in some "research", 3) be an instant "top of the totem pole" company man, 4) legislate your own policies, and 5) have people giving you money week after week. Heck.......wierwille saw the same after being with B.G. Leonard in 1953. There is little wonder why twi became incorporated SHORTLY thereafter and the rewriting of twi history attempts to cover his tracks.

EXACTLY! Nobody wants that kind of religion..........nor did we. My oh my, how things have changed in twi since we were teenagers and in our early 20s. If truth be told..............I think that MANY OF THE LONG-STANDING INNIES have the same concerns about the heavy-handed legalism, the bod arrogance, the abuses and injustices, the petty policies that have squelched the life out of dynamic living, the corps teaching scream-fests, the wierwille-pyramid structure, etc.......that many of us have. And therefore..........IMO, innie parents are counseling their kids to move on with their lives. Of course, there is always the single, gung-ho, sold-out staffer that JUST DOESN'T GET IT.

In talking with several of my friends, ex-wayers......it's evident that our children are moving onward with their lives. College and career choices, courting and marriage.......our kids are growing up. Having been away from the twi-machinery for about ten years now, my kids don't show the slightest hint of being in a cult. :) In fact, I'd venture to say that the buzzwords of wayspeak and even the name "wierwille" never crosses their minds. Why should it? They didn't invest those years of WOW, College-WOW, and all those events where wierwille and his pals were in the spotlight. Nor the indoctrination of the corps program. And, further.....in talking with some of the corps parents who are still IN.......their kids are doing the same, moving further and further from twi. Not saying all, by any means.....but MOST ALL are not following the same path as their parents. Yep......one generation of followers, and the next generation smartens up! Today, twi is like a secluded miser in some remote estate...........the money sustains his "status" but the community and business owners know that his hoarding of money does little earthly good.

Yeah.....to some at Hijack Headquarters, every place is offshoot ordinary.

Sounds about right...........a "class" can help steer the majority in the general direction with the help of a few to keep them mooo...ving. But a class that's annointed..?? Nah

And..........how did YOU make this discovery in defining this..?? :)

Ironic.......isn't it? TWI.............is "standing on the Word" and holding fast to Dr. Wierwille's plagiarist work. Geerites.......are "standing on the Word" and holding fast to Dr. Wierwille's plagiarist work. CFF..............is "standing on the Word" and holding fast to Dr. Wierwille's plagiarist work. And, with Kevin and Sara Wierwille G. coming on board.......will the wierwille adulation be notched up a bit?? Will the cycle repeat itself?

Wasn't Glend@ Sue in the zero corps....and re-entered?

With regards to E.W. Bullinger and his impact on the pfal class......Mrs. Wierwille's book, Born Again to Serve states the following: (p. 102) "Dr. Higgins was the person who introduced Dr. Wierwille to the great and influential works of an Englishman named E.W. Bullinger (1837-1913). She gave Dr. Wieriwille his first Companion Bible, containing the notes and appendix informantion of E.W. Bullinger, and a copy of How to Enjoy the Bible, also written by Dr. Bullinger." (p. 102) "After reading these books by Dr. Bullinger, Dr. Wierwille wanted to consume his Journal of Biblical Literature, Figures of Speech Used in the Bible, and his other writings. Dr. Wierwille obtained the book, The Witness of the Stars....." Note:......Dr. Higgins was an osteopathic physician who attended that first "Receiving the Holy Spirit Today" class in October 1953 when vpw taught B.G. Leonard's material. So, within one year.....from February 1953 to shortly after October 1953, Wierwille is CONSUMING (mrs. wierwille's viewpoint :) ) Bullinger's research work and publications to add to the thrilling work taught by Leonard in the holy spirit field. GLORY BE...!!

Thanks WW. It needs REPEATING.

Yeah..........years later, after he found Bullinger's research and added it to Leonard's foundation. Hmmm.......I see a pattern here. Sure lays bare the claim that veepee taught ORIGINAL WORK that hadn't been known since the first century. Even the twi published works help us to track his learning from OTHER MEN'S MINISTRIES.....and expose veepee in one big fat lie.

Okay, I went to the attic and pulled out Mrs. Wierwille's book, Born Again to Serve. The following is the twi documentation of what WordWolf stated: (p. 90) "Ever since the Divine Healing Convention in Tulsa in December 1951, and since Rev. B.G. Leonard prayed with us for Mary's healing over the phone in December 1952, Dr. Wierwille's hunger for more knowledge about God's healing power was piqued. In late winter, February 1953, Dr. Wierwille felt the need to spend time with B.G. Leonard." [in talking with B.G. Leonard on the phone, Dr. Wierwille found out that B.G. was teaching a class.....so vpw immediately got a ticket to Calgary, Alberta and talked his way into B.G.'s class that was in progress.] Note:.......in Mrs. W's book, there is a picture of this February 1953 class. The seven new students, vpw included, are pictured with Rev. Leonard seated in the middle of the front row. (p. 91) "In June of 1953, four months after Dr. Wierwille's initial trip, our family traveled with two other carloads of our friends to Calgary to take B.G. Leonard's class which he called The Gifts of the Spirit. At his Christian Training Centre, a large upstairs room over the pawnshop, our son Don and I (Mrs. W.) were students of this class from June 28 to July 15. Dr. Wierwille was with us, but of course he was not a new student, though he wanted to sit through the class again (AGAIN.....emphasis added) because what B.G. Leonard was teaching was so thrilling and powerful about the 'gifts' of holy spirit and about spiritual healing." Note:......in Mrs. W's book, there is a picture of this June/July 1953 class. Mrs. W. and Don, along with nine others from Van Wert were new students, and pictured in this class photo that consisted of 25 new students. Vpw was NOT in this photo....since he was NOT a new student of this class. (p. 99) "In October 1953, Dr. Wierwille taught the first Power for Abundant Living class, which was held in the basement of St. Peter's Church. The first two classes were called 'Receiving the Holy Spirit Today.' The name was then changed to the broader title that fit better with the entire scope of what the class covers. Also, 'Power for Abundant Living' would have a greater and broader appeal to people, especially to those not from religious backgrounds." (p. 99) "There were no charts, no books, no syllabus, just the Bible and a chalkboard (for this class)." (p. 100) "The people who had been part of B.G. Leonard's class on 'The Gifts of the Spirit' were considered graduates and not included in the rosters of Dr. Wierwille's classes." There's the TWI DOCUMENTATION..............it was Leonard's material.

And.........while twi "advances" on the chaos and the dark, martindale is soon thereafter OUSTED from his position and secretly shipped off to toledo to live in a therapy-induced home environment......no forwarding address, no phone listing in his name, etc. An all-out, run-for-cover if you ask me.

Allan....not quite sure that I'd call wierwille's "absent Christ" doctrine scintillatingly close to the purportedly original God-breathed Word. In fact, that doctrine ALONE.......spun a whole web of idolatrous doctrines. <_<

Oooooh, the big bad devil ( ) is out to destroy The Way International. No, actually.......it's called seeking justice via the legal system. When the president of said organization uses his power and influence to sexually seduce office/staff workers it has legal ramifications. Since martindale utilized the same techniques on several hq staff women, it is not a "strikingly similar" coincidence that THE WORDING OF THE LAWSUIT is aligned with the first lawsuit. Duh. Thanks for posting this. It's good to be reminded of twi's manipulating machinery. And, thankfully...........One (man) awake AWAKENS another.

Yeah.......2 different things, totally. :) And, didn't Leonard stay at the helm of running these classes where he was available to instruct and guide the new student into demonstrating God's power....praying/ministering to others??

When wierwille "put it all together"......cut and pasting material from Leonard, Stiles, Bullinger and others.... wasn't the pfal class (originally) run with intermediate material as well? Students were expected to SIT, interpret and phrophecy at the end of this 15-session class....and, a couple of segments were shelved and played at a later date because they added confusion and consternation. Many just weren't ready for the segment on "The Unforgiveable Sin" and "The Day Jesus Christ Died." (??) Even after wierwille "put it all together"........it was adapted and re-adapted. And, as early as 1975/76, there was lots of backroom talk in getting a better class out there.....after PFAL '77 was filmed. Didn't happen, though......but that was one of the intents of filming during that event.

I personally sat with Ric@rdo and asked him about that vague statement in POP where Cgeer accuses the trustees of attempting to kill vp wierwille..............and Ric@rdo brushed it off by referencing the situation and how the trustees missed overseeing some details. Cgeer's wording and inference of his incident was highly combustible......just as he had intended it to be. When one thinks that Cgeer had a year (or more?) to spin this POP document....and to have it come across so vague and aimless, it makes me wonder if that was it's purpose. To confuse.....and we all know that where confusion is there is every evil work. Besides Cgeer's unique entre to the life of vpwierwille......how many secrets did he hold?? Did he have exploitive information on all the trustees.......sex trips, shady dealings, whatever?? How long had he planned aspects of this scenario?? And, to add.........is Ric@rdo in the Cgeer camp anymore??? Anybody?