skyrider

The "similarities" of the wierwille system, oppressor over oppressee, is well noted on GS....yet, some newbies to GS are still unshackling the chains of bondage. IMO.....wierwille's corps program was a lifetime of servitude to twi. Every major event prompted coercion from corps "volunteers" to string chairs, serve food, bless patrol shifts, usher, etc. etc. While the 'lords' dined, the 'serfs' were busy in this manipulated, enforced labor.....and the 'protection for the adversary' was one of their 'extended favors.'

In order to achieve his ends, wierwille had to create power. The lightbulb turned on after wierwille sat thru BG Leonard's class "The Gifts of the Spirit" in 1953 and seeing the potential for a class-structured business/ministry model. With this newfound approach, wierwille began teaching this class *as his own* and started moving towards the exit doors of his pastorate work in Van Wert, Ohio (1957). Until Leonard's class, wierwille slogged along the well-worn path of the church system. With Leonard's class, wierwille started paving The Road to Waydom. His feigned interest of 'helping others' materialized into a self-serving totalitarian village of indulgences, adulation and unaccountability. Wierwille created a system of power.......for wierwille. Look at the similarities to............The Road to Serfdom "IN ORDER to achieve their ends, the planners must create power—power over men wielded by other men—of a magnitude never before known. Their success will depend on the extent to which they achieve such power. "When all the means of production are vested in a single hand, whether it be nominally that of "society" as a whole or that of a dictator, whoever exercises this control has complete power over us. "But when economic power is centralized as an instrument of political power it creates a degree of dependence scarcely distinguishable from slavery." "INDIVIDUALISM, in contrast to socialism and all other forms of totalitarianism, is based on the respect of Christianity for the individual man and the belief that it is desirable that men should be free to develop their own individual gifts and bents." "THERE CAN BE no doubt that most of those in the democracies who demand a central direction of all economic activity still believe that socialism and individual freedom can be combined. Yet socialism was early recognized by many thinkers as the gravest threat to freedom." "The totalitarian leader must collect around him a group which is prepared voluntarily to submit to that discipline which they are to impose by force upon the rest of the people."

For that reason........I have often said that wierwille's twi is a SPLINTER of BG Leonard's ministry. 1) From Rev. Leonard, wierwille incorporated A CLASS-STRUCTURED MINISTRY. 2) From Rev. Leonard, wierwille stole the foundational class and taught it as his own. 3) From Rev. Leonard, wierwille focused more intently on the gifts/manifestations of holy spirit. 4) From Rev. Leonard's publications of Canadian Christian Press, wierwille goes with American Christian Press. Class registration, class set-up, regulations and rules, class picture, etc......wierwille reframed his church approach to a class approach throughout his ministry. One could easily argue that BG Leonard's ministry and work was the prototype, of which, wierwille spent the rest of his life copying. <_<

Why does twi ALWAYS emphasize the devil and his domain? Why not......how this advanced class will CRUSH the adversary beneath their feet..!! Or...........that GOD is well-pleased with the adv class running. Or...........to be more Christ-like to our fellow man. Twi is a manipulating cult.............period.

And......The Wahkeena Nature Preserve teaches that life is natural. And......The National Football League teaches that life is football. Imagine that! Twi is in the business of sales and marketing. Every slogan, every cliche, every wierwillism has a market to exploit.......pamplets, books, magazine articles, tapes, t-shirts, music, abs, etc. The MLM machine is churning out yearly themes and catchy phrases to capitalize on....what sticks, what doesn't? How did martindale's "the promised land of the prevailng word" slogan work? How many crossed over into that "promised land" of milk and honey? How much greater were the results?.....more revelation? more deliverance? more abundance? AND, FOUR YEARS LATER......MARTINDALE IS OUSTED FOR SEXUAL PREDATION. Like a barking charlatan, twi is always selling....... Let the buyer beware.... <_<

Yeah, even in plaf (the wonder class).......the disdain is dripping. Could it be.....wierwille was NOT even in the ballpark of that 'man of God' category?

All of The Way International......makes exaggerated claims. The Way, Inc.......modeled after The First Century Church. Really? Seems like it's hq is modeled after the Jerusalem setup where the Apostle Paul confronted their legalism. The Way Corps......with its servitude, I tend to think wierwille copied The Peace Corps. The Way Woods......wierwille touted these "woods" as a special, spiritual place. Way Homes..........where hot believers lived together and were a nucleus for moving the word. Way Productions....'rightly-divided' lyrics and music to bless and inspire all believers. Way Builders.......twi's concept of the building trades (blah, blah, blah). Way Disciples......couldn't implement Disciples for Christ, it was already taken. The Way of Abundance and Power.....gotta pump 'The Way' in the class doncha know. <_< -- market it and 'they will come.'

I seem to recall a Bill Maze.......but no matter. In retrospect, I see sales training and MLM 'testimonies' in these corps exercises. Twi professes to be so 'spiritual'.......but mimics the mechanics of sales and marketing a business.

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If form letters are a no-no.... Why are 'form' Sunday teaching tapes a go-go...?? I mean......where's the 'personal ministering' via a Sunday teaching from some no-name guy at headquarters? Does he know your situation? Or, is it just another generic teaching? The Book of John illustrates many examples of Jesus ministering one-on-one.....giving unique revelation to one individual. When has some 'top-dog' at hq done that? Or, all the itineraries in the book of Acts where leaders hazarded their lives for the gospels' sake. The MLM machinery at hq is all generic.....classes, tapes, mag. They sit and pontificate while the field corps and adv class grads do all the work.

EXACTLY. Nothing could compare to being at the epicenter of anal-ville. Everything was controlled. Some staff had to sign-out for bathroom breaks. Every meeting mandatory. Every weekend was not really "a weekend." All townies were unbelievers. All staffers were 'the best." Us versus Them.....in everything. Everything wierwille did was 'by revelation.' What churches did were 'of the devil.' Yep......a controlling, conniving cult.

From what I remember, the cult issue was gaining steam much earlier. In 1975......some of my college friends wouldn't take pfal because their parents' church officials were labeling twi a cult, mostly because of the trinity issue. In 1978, at the Sidney Fairgrounds ROA.....a group of people picketed near the entrance, claiming that twi was a cult. With bullhorns and some local publicity, twi was hammered for being a cult. From 1978-82.....deprogrammers were actively kidnapping wayfers. Seems like there were eight to ten wayfers who went thru the deprogramming experience and told their stories. Around 1980/81......Wierwille claimed from mainstage ROA that twi was the fastest growing CULT in America and the people applauded loudly. It was a badge of 'honor.'

Wierwille set up the mold.............to control production. Wierwille set up production...........to control expediency. Wierwille set up expediency...........to control costs and cloning. Wierwille set up cost & cloning.......to control class instructors. Wierwille set up class instructors... to control pfal class promotion. Wierwille set up pfal class promotion to control wierwille doctrine. Wierwille set up pfal class doctrine..to control wierwille legacy. Wierwille set up the wierwille legacy to control and oppress his followers. Wierwille was a narcissist who dedicated his life to build his deceiving empire. <_<

The corps program...........a cloning factory. Wierwille preached the "Christ-in you" in pfal. Yet, wierwille's corps was a cloning of way-bots.....corps indoctrination trumps in-spirit-action. IMO.......the corps training indoctrination was NOT a leadership program, but a "follow-ship" program. Guess there are reasons why some 2,800 corps NO LONGER "follow the yellow brick road."

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Like Oldskool said......it was called the Airport House. As I remember it.....this home was purchased in 1979 from twi's in-house attorney (Jarvis?) that was moving out of Ohio. At the time, Don and Wanda's family needed more space and twi's abs was reaching full stride. With major renovation via Way Builders, many of twi's staff had input into the kitchen, cabinets, flooring, plumbing, etc. And, being off-grounds.....another positive, Don's home added some distancing between him and his dad. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, the memories: One Sunday service, Don Wierwille was the designated teacher and Walter Cumm1ns was the emcee. The auditorium was under construction and the sunday services were still being held in the OSC lunchroom during this transition period (setup crews met after the sunday noon meal every week and chair stringers were in high demand). Anyways, about 15 minutes into Don's teaching.......the fire alarm sounded and the 'lunchroom' was evacuated. While everyone headed out the OSC building, I headed to the fire panel to see which quadrant the fire signal was designating. The blinking light designated the west end of the warehouse. Along with security, and twi's volunteer firefighters......we headed to the warehouse. Someone had rigged a little arson 'jig' in the bookstore area on the forklift racks, 3rd or 4th tier, where the fuse gave the arsonist time to descend and gain distance before the flame took hold. Another 5 or 6 minutes had passed before the security two-way radios gave the 'all-clear' alert.....the arsonist(s) had been caught. Under hush tones, no one wanted to state who it was who started the fire. Lo and behold......little Rxxph Wierwille and Bxbby Cummxns were the culprits. And here, their dads were front-and-center at the Sunday service that week.

You're probably right........just another day. After all, twi wouldn't want to 'recognize it' because it was the day OF HIS DEATH....and that would be giving glory to the devil. Just like Uncle Harry Day, March 17th.....was Harry's birth date. And yeah, wierwille stuff is 'old wineskin stuff'.......unless it elevates twi's history and brings praise to the wierwille name. Funny, martindale is probably MORE old wineskin that wierwille ever will be.

And......some of us have always wondered why L0uie L1nd left twi's Finance Dept in 'the dead of night' and the silence that followed.

During my twi tenure and living in seven different states.....I ran across several little isolated groups of 'wierwille-worshippers' who deemed him at THE man of God of the world. Some would keep those old green Way bumper stickers on their cars and/or a little 'shrine' in their home with wierwille's picture and books on display. One guy (like Mike here at GS)....thought wierwille spoke by revelation ALWAYS. Some of these little groups were spooky in their sold-out allegiance.....even though no longer a part of twi or attending roa. Seriously, some seemed to quote wierwille's statements in pfal in casual conversation. But then again, these kind of people could be found at hq in the 70s. One 5th corps guy stayed in the way woods in one of those little A-tels....coming to sunday meetings in a wrinkled suit. Others come to mind, as well. Just seems like the cult-mantra is like a drain.....as the water spins faster and faster just before disappearing.

On May 20, 1985......Victor Paul Wierwille died. Will there be a tribute ceremony at wierwille's gravesite today? Will the region coordinators from across the country be required to send in their obligatory responses to this significant date in twi? Many still remember Cgeer's grilling twi on the one-year anniversary of wierwille's death and criticized twi for "forsaking the man of God"......ie no special recognition, no red roses on his grave. Surely, twi still remembers this? But......many in the ex-twi community see it like this:

Isn't the "Way Woods home"........B & S R3ahard's old home? As I remember it, Bo had this home built when he went on staff. Twi never paid him for this home, but just confiscated it when he went on the field.

What family? Don't tell me Ralphie and wife moved back in with ole mom? Or.....Krist1na?

What's with this obsession/paranoia to a guard dog or attack dog? For those who profess to emulate the first century church.....did the Apostle Paul have an ATTACK DOG?

Ham......doncha know, the 'safety guys' are multi-tasked? Doing pizza runs is one of those tasks. Also, driving corps girls to Dayton motels.....oh wait, that was the last prez's requests.

Another Sunday service..........going thru the motions, the 'bless-yous' and fake smiles. But really....every empty seat is a glaring reminder that twi is DYING OUT. ..............every empty seat gives testimony that twi is just ANOTHER RELIGION. ..............every empty seat is a clanging cymbal where unconditional loves should reside. ..............every empty seat could have been filled TWICE (1440 x 2) by corps who exited twi. Even the elitist among them must sometimes wonder......why don't the people come? <_<