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  1. And, taking this one step further..... What does this say about all those who CONTINUE to cover for wierwille's seedy/evil/perversive past? Christopher C. Geer........ Rosalie Fox Rivenbark...... John A. Lynn............... Walter Cummins............. Splinter Group Leaders..... <_<
  2. Why didn't twi learn from wierwille's past church experience? Wierwille was "ploughing" for St. Peter's Evangelical and Reformed Church before leaving(1944-1957) and this church later removed...ie banished...wierwille's name from the church's clergy registry. Wierwille was on this church's mark/avoid list. Twi has followed the example of wierwille's old church......same church tactic, different pew.
  3. Hi polar bear...... For me, it was like hitting the snooze button every 8 minutes UNTIL I HAD EYES WIDE OPEN. 1) The homo purge and genuine suspicion mandates (1993/94) 2) The no-debt doctrine....no mortgage mandates (1994-->) 3) All corps MUST be full-time staff for twi (1995) 4) Corps --- no pets, no pregnancies, no cable, no gifts (1996) 5) More confrontation -- crossing over into "promised land" 6) Martindale's sex predation at the 1998 Adv Class ONE MAN AWAKE AWAKENS ANOTHER............
  4. Back in 1976-1980, wierwille claimed several times publically that living and fellowshipping with the way household was like heaven on earth. And further,... "if we found out that there was no heaven, we would have the greatest time going." Yeah, riiiight....... The one who holds the power and all the toys.....speaks of its "greatness." The one who holds the power and all the toys.....and access to all women in his kingdom. The one who holds the power and all the toys.....hunting and motorcycling and praising God. The one who holds the power and all the toys.....and celebrity status with his groupies. The one who holds the power and all the toys.....and enough drambuie to sink a ship. For him, of course..............it's "heaven" on earth. <_<
  5. In the twisted world of cult-like servitude, twi used several verses/contexts of scripture to make that quantum leap of faith. Two examples that come to mind are...... John 13:30 He then having received the sop went immediately out: and it was night. The supper had ended and Jesus was sitting with his disciples and briefly detailed that one of them would betray him. Those near Jesus heard him say that the one who received the sop and that was Judas Iscariot. Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God. Translation: Anyone ploughing for twi needs to keep his eyes forward and keep ploughing. To plough for twi is synonymous for later reaping the Lord's harvest.
  6. I doubt that James' ministry had the "law of believing" saturating the thought and prayer life of those early church believers. Were those Jerusalem guys "believing" for a camel parking spot near the temple? Were they "believing" for 7 newbies to sign up for their Torah class? Were they walking around the marketplaces "believing" to witness to others? Did their "believing" stop the rains during major events?
  7. By paying regular dues tithes (plus 5%) to twi, you get...... 1) Protection from the adversary 2) Higher status at the bema 3) Extra benefits throughout all eternity
  8. Back in 1996 ---> 2000....... John Reynolds would refer to those Branch assignments as "battle promotions" or "damage control." In other words, after years of toiling in a thankless, 90-hr work week.....most branch leaders get weary and quit OR apathetically refuse to jump thru all those twi hoops. IMO..the branch assignment, overseeing 7-12 twigs, was the most demanding of twi's tree structure. As I understand it.......today, twi is a shell of its former self. And, the branch title is given to corps who might only oversee two household fellowships. Even the analogy is pathetically stupid in Rosie's world.....who ever sees a branch on a tree with two twigs?
  9. Twi replaced 'chapter and verse' with...........The Present Truth. This 'present truth' doctrine permeated twi throughout the 90s......with Pecker-in-Chief, LCM, at the helm. He could rationalize and justify any situation with 'present truth' ramblings. If he was angry.....he expected all the corps to be angry that week and confront their people. The Present Truth was a Dictator Doctrine. With 'executive order'......he could trumph any scripture by utilizing a present situation and plugging in a present solution, even if it ran at cross-purposes with rock-solid truth. If Rosalie is still doing this............
  10. Twi's collection of union dues abundant sharing is coerced from a percentage of the followers' paychecks. Weekly blue forms document the union dues tithe/abs that each fellowship coordinator sends in on Monday of each week. As a non-profit organization, is twi's abs distributed in charitable work or contributions throughout the local communities......or does it empower the 'union bosses?' How does twi skirt all the benevolent actions and charitable giving of churches when all monies are exclusively funneled into twi's coffers? Here is a generic link to union dues..... Union Dues Members must pay their dues. Twi followers must pay their tithe/abs.......or no advanced class for you. Twi followers must pay their tithe/abs.......or the local leader will come knocking. Twi followers must pay their tithe/abs.......or no Advanced Class Special event. Twi followers must pay their tithe/abs.......or public confrontation will result. Unions have their purpose, but union BOSSES have their agenda. Freely tithing is one thing, but coercion and exploitation is something quite different. <_<
  11. My commitment to God......was HIJACKED by twi manipulators. Where in scripture (chapter and verse) is one to 'uphold his commitment' to an organization that, supposedly, is standing 'on the Word' (whatever that means)? TWI is the culprit....that 'adds a word, changes a word and therefore one no longer has the Word' in the ready-reference of pfal quotes. Stand with twi......."no matter what" 1) What if Wierwille takes my wife for his late-night lusts? 2) What if Wierwille stole the foundational class and plagairized wholesale contents of others? 3) What if Wierwille and company black-balled good people who knew some dirty secrets? 4) What if twi hordes $54 Million and the uppities get 'extra' spending money for shopping? 5) What if twi's research has gaping holes in it and smart research people are shown the door? 6) What if safety is compromised by risky, faulty policies and personnel? 7) What if the voice of God TELLS ME TO LEAVE? <_<
  12. Yeah.......do what they say, NOT what they do. When wierwille left his Van Wert Church and congregation in 1957......he broke his vow. What's the difference between Wierwille leaving his full-time salaried position as a minister in Van Wert, Ohio and a "volunteer" way corps person leaving twi after years of (unpaid) service? How long is/was a corps grad to serve in a contaminated/evil environment? Why should I REPENT? The scriptures tell me to AVOID ALL APPEARENCE OF EVIL.
  13. Yes......I referred to this as "belonging to something bigger than oneself." I honestly think that I'd have slipped away MUCH SOONER had it not been for twi's incessant manipulation. I should have seen it, but shame on THEM for THEIR deception and seduction.
  14. Or......the deification of wierwille goes back to 1953 and the stolen class of BG Leonard where wierwille bolted from his former obscure self to a life of 'prominence.' This class was wierwille's ride to freedom.
  15. With the in-house publication of Mrs. W's book....... TWI still wishes vpw was the man he proclaimed to be.
  16. How about this?........ Two can play this game of "the significance of the wierwille family crest." "The Wierwille family crest, which originated in northern France during the 1300's, was found by Dr. Wierwille in 1978 when he visited the Chateau de Creully near Vierville-sur-Mer. Three seal gulls on the upper horizontal stripe represent the complete dedication of the Wierwille clan to salvage from the sea." "The crest bears six distinct horizontal stripes -- three blue and three silver. Blue, the color of the sky, represents the open vastness from which the sea gull attacks his prey and the fisherman his catch. Silver is pocketed from the fisherman's toil and represents treasure. Together, the blue sea and silver treasure represnt the generations of wierwilles who toiled amongst the sea gulls." "A red fascia (band) runs diagonally across the crest, binding the stripes together. The color red represents both life and death as fishermen were lost to the sea. Generation to generation the wierwilles were committed to the sea for their livlihood and their very very lives." "The sea gulls on the center blue stripe represent the flight of life. There are three to represent the three generations of wierwilles completely dedicated to the sea. The fourth generation despised the sea and moved inland to the life of pig farming. Hence, the family crest was loathed for generations and forgotten....until a young wierwille from America 'restored' it. The generations of wierwilles by the sea is 'restored' by the cornfield clan far from the sea, far from its heritage." <_<
  17. I wasn't going to include Mrs. W's whole spiel on the wierwille family crest, but........ [Page 6]........"The crest bears six distinct horizontal stripes -- three blue and three silver. Blue, the color of the sky, represents God's canopy over the earth. It symbolizes fidelity, faithfulness, careful and exact observance of duty, and adherence to truth. Silver is one of the earth's precious metals and often represents treasure. Here, it symbolizes God's people, who hold His treasure (holy spirit) in earthen vessels." "A red fascia (band) runs diagonally across the crest, binding the stripes together. The color red represents both life and death since it is the color of blood, which contains the life of the flesh." "The doves on the center blue stripe represent God's gift of holy spirit. There are three because the number three signifies completeness. With God's gift of holy spirit given on the day of Pentecost, man can once again be complete, having body, soul, and spirit. The presence of God's spirit within the Wierwille family members is a key to their living victoriously from generation to generation until the return of Jesus Christ." TRANSLATION.....the wierwille bloodline faithfully stood in God's presence to the fulfillment of time wherein victor paul wierwille gave his life for God's people. All praise to docvic......for giving his eye, his life, his all. <_<
  18. Yes....it is. As documented in Mrs. W's book, Born Again to Serve, the pontificating of the Wierwille heritage and the re-writing of twi's history lives on. THE OPENING PARAGRAPH (after preface and acknowledgements)....."The Wierwille family ancestry can be traced as far back as the 1300s to a small town in northern France called Vierville-sur-Mer, translated "Wierwille by the Sea." These Viervilles were Huguenots, a group of French Protestants who staunchly resisted Roman Catholic attempts to dominate the religious and social life of France. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, many Huguenots left France to escape religious persecution, the Viervilles among them." [Page 4] <snip> [Page 6] "The Wierwille family crest, which originated in norther France during the 1300's, was found by Dr. Wierwille in 1978 when he visited the Chateau de Creully near Vierville-sur-Mer. Dr. Wierwille slightly adapted the coat of arms by replacing three sea gulls with three doves. Otherwise, the design has remained the same for nearly seven hundred years, representing a family dedicated to God, freedom, and integrity." See......when wierwille "slightly adapted" this family crest to ADD SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE, he added, he changed it to something it was NOT. If veepee could tweak the family crest, WHAT ELSE WAS TWEAKED FROM 1942-1982 ???
  19. A tether is a rope, cord, etc. fastened to something to prevent drifting, escape......to limit within bounds, confine. Nametags....one's vanity tethered his/her commitment to twi. Whether a WOW Ambassador, an Advanced Class grad, a Corps grad, or Staff, the seduction of "belonging to something bigger than oneself" tethered my *renewed mind* to twi inc. No physical bars imprisoned me from leaving the Emporia campus.....even though I was disgusted with the inresidence program within months. No ropes or chains bound me at twi's hq during my years on staff. At the end of the movie, The Devil's Advocate, is that line........VANITY, gets them every time. Keanu Reeves looks like he's free and clear to move ahead with his life and wife.......until that temptation, vanity. The movie ends leaving one to ponder. The corps program was an exclusive "sit at the feet of the master" club. The isolation from society, the isolation from worldly news, the isolation from family, friends and loved ones only empowered the "leadership." In 1979/80......the analogy of the cherokee 'dog soldiers' was brought forward to embolden the image of their commitment to fight to the death. The dog soldier was tethered to a stake in the ground to fight the enemy. How many stayed on the WOW field to get the WOW pin? How many gutted it out to get wierwille's approval? How many ate sh!t sandwiches to climb the twi ladder? Even the Apostle Paul went to Jerusalem for the wrong reasons......and almost lost his life. <_<
  20. EXACTLY......wierwille was 12 years older than my Dad. What ever happened to the old-timers who sat thru pfal classes in the late 50s/ early 60s? Even the 'excited' people that wierwille singled out...........Rosalind Rink3r? Dr. E.E. Higgins? Even Peter J. W@de, whom wierwille highlighted W@de's little booklet in pfal......left in the early 70s. Guess all the hype and programs didn't persuade W@de to go corps. When PFAL '77 rolled around...........wierwille was 60 years old.
  21. They serve THEMSELVES and their own righteousness. Thus, they have built a community of elitism and "a tower of babel." Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
  22. Well, if they DIDN'T KNOW before the 1999 lawsuit......the sexual predation of martindale, the lesbian-original sin in WAP, the verbally-abusive corps meetings, the defunct research department, the complicit trustees -- Don/Rosalie/Howard, the micromanaging of corps and staff, etc......THEY SHOULD KNOW NOW. There is no where to hide. Rosalie has taken twi back to the wierwille wineskins. She has no spiritual insight....and is reverting to "what would wierwille do?" Figures. The wierwille-idolatry is the spiritually blind's signposts for finding "the way."
  23. TWI: The spiritually blind try to lead.... The blind leading the blind is bad enough, but what are we to make of the blind leading those who can actually see. That’s what twi legalism and regulation is. The Hefner/Doop thread and dozens of others expose wierwille and his spiritual cronies that manipulation and control were the right and left arms of his "ministry." With plagairism and stolen works as wierwille's legacy.....twi is a homespun quilt of positive thinking techniques, believing axioms, verses sewn on the borders, and nine manifested colors to the quilt. It's unique, for sure. All the personal stories of recovery here at GS testify to twi's destructive nature.... 1) Criminal and sexual abuse 2) Business and educational detours 3) Divorces and abusive intervention 4) Probation tactics and/or mark & avoid 5) Psychological and emotional abuse 6) Etc. Some have claimed that GreaseSpot is a "recovery/healing center" from the twi abuse. Documented in books, podcasts, personal stories, and thousands of posts......TWI ABUSE was/is rampant. Why? The spiritually blind are trying to follow the wierwille template of spiritualizing everything. With their $54 Million....twi can invest in something that they could do, like, janitorial service and grass mowing for large corporations? Heck, with those deep pockets, twi could expand into all sorts of service-oriented jobs and leave the "spiritual leading" to someone else? Any other "business".....after closing down the Emporia campus, Rome City, LEAD, and Camp Gunnison corps locations would either confront their "product line"...... and/or their "people"......and/or their "CEOs." <_<
  24. Maybe, we could send your therapist a bill for our services......to replenish the beer fund for those GS bar-b-ques?
  25. Yeah, it has.......and mercy is extended. And, from the pfal golden writ........"Believing works for saint AND sinner alike." Which begs the question, "Then, what you're saying is, with believing the sinner doesn't need God to live the more abundant life?" Far too much emphasis in pfal on believing.... Small portions on sin, repentence, godly sorrow, fellowship with God, lordship of JC, etc.....and if you (they) can answer your own prayers, you (they) will be as gods. Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. :o
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