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First things first... 1) BEWARE of false prophets [Mat. 7:15] 2) BEWARE of the leaven of Pharisees, Herod [Mark 8:15] Time and time again, many talk about "the good old days in twi" before things went awry. There is a whole faction of "believers" who think that wierwille was the one who help bestow those "spiritually good times." In other words, vpw's pfal-doctrine AND SUBSEQUENT TEACHINGS were the foundation on which one build his life and all "good" would flow from its adherence. Although there is notable evidence that twi was trending downward and destructive by 1977/1978.....most were unaware until the cold splash of reality hit with wierwille's death, geer's power-grab and martindale's unprecedented loyalty letter. For some, martindale was the source of blame for twi's downfall and "no longer standing on the word".......for others, geer was instigating strife and division with his unsubstantiated poop paper.......and still others, followed the lynn crowd. And, some just left, following no one. Even to this day, some posters defend wierwille.....dismissing the legalism of leavening thru the years. "Leavening" is added to catalize a spreading, gradual change.....and, in twi, it did. The elitism and arrogance increased. Hypocrisy increased. Centralized authority increased. The gradual, destructive changes in twi usurped individual "Christ-in-you" authority. Year after year, authoritarian rule and a collective mindset spread to leaven the lump. Yeah.....one needs to BEWARE of religious (and political) leavening. But, first things first......one needs to BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS.

Yeah.....with all twi's empty chairs, they're speaking out in an attempt to remain relevant. Could it be that more and more people are dismissing twi as a source of anything relevant anymore? And, twi leadership are noticing their slippage of rulership,...er, leadership. "You NEED us" is the message....and more are simply saying, "No, we don't."

Ummm......do you mean UNCONFRONTED like wierwille and his sexual predation ways? Ummm......do you mean UNCONFRONTED when martindale, geer, don, howard, etc. circled the wagons for wierwille? Ummm......why wasn't wierwille "delivered from cancer" an adv class specified devil spirit, John? And, yeah...."Life is real damn serious" and EVERY CHILD OF GOD should be guarded from attacking wolves. But no, corps and staff women were MOST VULNERABLE when they were in close proximity with mogs and motorcoaches. Under the guise of "spiritual authority and concern for their growth"......the "mog" (cough, cough) goes to the liquor cabinet to start the "counseling session." Get the girl a little tipsy, and drop her defenses.......and then, assault her. Life is serious....and twi's so-called mogs were the scum of the spiritual sewer. But, hey John......go ahead and stand on your little soap box in that know-nothing, do-nothing cornfield cult. You must feel mighty proud to have stood shoulder-to-shoulder with that Okie martindale.......ppffffffttttt.

Yep.....all the time, around the clock-glock coverage.

Well...........I find it hard to believe that L. Craig Martindale was allowed, and insulated by twi's inner circle, sexual predation access to corps and staff women from say, 1980-1999. Year after year, the soon-to-be-twi's-president was groomed by none other than twi's "wolf preying on her little female lambs".....mr. wierwille, himself. And, John.......speaking of CONFRONTATION, have you completely erased from your memory the night when P@ul All#n phoned you and DEMANDED A FACE-TO-FACE CONFRONTATION WITH MARTINDALE.....??? Remember, John? Paul demanded that you and rosalie be present when he confronted predator martindale about sexual assaults towards his wife, F#rne. So, late at night.....in February, 1999.....in martindale's office, in the "corps chalet" with J0hn L!nder nearby brandishing a glock 9mm, P@ul All#n DEMANDED FOR THE IMMEDIATE RESIGNATION OF MARTINDALE. Remember, John Reynolds? You were there.....and newly installed as Secretary-Treasurer of TWI. Wouldn't the sexual predation of corps/staff women be considered devilish? In all that is truth and uprightness, of course it is. Yet, you sided in martindale's corner......and P@ul & F#rne were bum-rushed off twi property in the middle of the night by a security guard with a 9mm firearm. What a night of hell they experienced. Thankfully, the All#ns won the out-of-court settlement AND martindale was ousted from twi per the advice of twi's lawyers. Yep, the lawyers had to give "spiritual counsel" to John and Rosalie to get them to act responsibly. So, John......you might be able to "counsel" the schlubs at headquarters about confrontation, but those of us who heard first-hand testimony of martindale's sexual predation KNOW how twi circles their wagons to "protect their own and their image." If this is your idea of "being energized by God's spirit" John......you've got a long way to travel. <_< .

"The Joe Paterno statue was removed Sunday morning from its pedestal outside Beaver Stadium, and it will be stored in an unnamed "secure location," Penn State president Rodney Erickson announced. Erickson also said the Paterno name will remain on the university's library. Shortly before dawn in State College, Pa., a work crew installed chain-link fences to barricade access to Porter Road outside Beaver Stadium and covered the fence with a blue tarp. The work crew then removed the 7-foot, 900-pound bronze statue by forklift and placed it into the lower level of the stadium. Erickson released his highly sensitive decision to the public at 7 a.m. ET Sunday." Will twi ever remove the victor paul wierwille statue from their auditorium? Of course not......the twi-public outcry has hardly moved in its intensity. Twi-ers, splinter groups and many ex-ers are STILL indoctrinated in vpw-idolatry. <_< .

Wierwille's booklet, LifeLines, is full of this "twi is the center of the universe" diatribe. Wierwille instituted the "salt covenant equals commitment to twi" to ALL his corps and clergy. Martindale was known for his yell-fests of ALL THINGS TWI. He blatantly notched it up a few levels. Geer came across the pond to pontificate "Get Back to The Word"...in other words, follow wierwille you deviants! RosaLIE uses her "administrative control levers" to push the wierwille-indoctrination.....AGAIN. Even dozens of splinter groups have to use twi-lite messaging to keep followers involved. Twi buzzword phrases like "stand on the word" are still commonplace in ex-followers' braincells. Talk about 'spiritual discernment?'......how very few to this day even see the INDOCRINATION OF EVIL by twi. Christianity is 'relevant' when Jesus is lord, savior and mediator in one's life......NOT TWI. <_<

Yeah, John Reynolds......you tell 'em like you see 'em. You're standing in twi's cornfield cult with the spiritual wherewithal to know what's happening all around you [/sarc]. Wierwille built his cult on lies, plagairism, manipulation, predation and exploiting the youth's time, labor and future. Have you seen this evil, John? Apparently not.....you're STILL there. Twi exploits and hoards every penny they can squeeze outta their followers. What is it now? 54 Million in twi assets/investments now? I forget. No community involvement....no food banks.....no helping the underprivileged. Staff kids have no money for college.....so the taxpayer-funded pell grants assist them. That's twi.....sucking every last cent to be lauded as a worldwide corporation. Twi is the antithesis of true, good-Samaritan, Christianity. C'mon, John. Twi is in lockstep with the world. Their LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil. The love of power and control. Twi has its "demons"........just like the U.S.A. has its "demons." The difference? Twi exploited unsuspecting youth. The government exploits the taxpaying public. Click Here --- US debt visualized

Yep.....the egotistical, bureaucracy-laden pyramids of man are institutionalized evil built on the backs of enslaved and common man. Pharisees, kings, and priests alike are rulers and enforcers of evil. Simply put, the scriptures answered this when Jesus said...... Mar 8:15 And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and [of] the leaven of Herod.

johniam......did you not read my post? The point being.....institutions, universities, churches, political orgs, etc NEED "checks and balances" for accountability, transparency, and to curtail abuse. Men in positions of power find ways to enforce more power and leverage over people via hidden agendas and corruption. The ways of man are evil. Wiewille structured twi WITHOUT any such accountability......no surprise there. He had worked in the church structure before and was bristled by church board authority. Remember? Wierwille didn't like to be held accountable to them. And, when the Van Wert church removed wierwille's name from the historical clergy registry, it seemed to only fuel his distaste. Yes, twi was sin-laden......just look at its founder.

Oh, so as long as twi is on par with the catholic church......."twi won't even get on the radar." Who's "radar" are you talking about here? Who's "radar" is more important.....man's or God's? The article is explicitly clear about the NEED for institutional "checks and balances" to uphold and maintain accountability, transparency, and curtail abuse. Of course, most of us know how wierwille structured twi and stacked his platform of power. Sheeesh, even run-of-the-mill churches had established church boards for more accountability from their ministers. Yeah, I suppose johniam's post has a point. Twi is just another sin-laden institution!

The investigation of the Penn State/Sandusky evidence has crystallized to excoriate the leadership and institution. By all accounts, "The report is a horrifying account of individual and institutional failure, based in part on a “culture of reverence for the football program that is ingrained at all levels of the campus.” So, too, is the growing evidence against The Way International. Here at this Greasespot Forum, with 131 pages of threads and posts......destruction of lives is twi's legacy. Books have been authored by many who detailed the horror that they experienced at that hands of twi's leadership. Podcasts have been recorded to clarify viewpoints of the cult-mindset, the manipulation and the exploitation of years in twi service. With testimonies of sexual predation, rapes, abuse and driven to suicide surface from time to time, there are also a plethora of accounts illustrating the destruction of self and soul and family. Perhaps, those who scoff at twi's association towards evil.....might gain a deeper perspective of institutional failure by reading the following article. From my experience, I think the "shift toward evil" took place in the heart of wierwille before The Way, Inc. ink had dried from the incorporation paperwork. But, that's me. And, as the marching corruption increased its numbers, the destructive evil increased exponentially. For those who read: see any similarities to twi's institutional evil? Click Here - Penn State Shift Toward Evil

Although wierwille taught Leonard's class (later, known as pfal) in October 1953, he stayed on the Van Wert church payroll until August 1957. And, a few years later, the twi operation moved to the wierwille farm homestead. Throughout these years, 1958-1966, twi's history documents a list of live pfal classes taught by vpw......but no concerted movement. Classes were run, yes.....and then, people blending back into the fabric of their everyday lives. Classes taught by wierwille, the teacher himself, (/sarc) did not guarantee committed followers. So, the film class would generate buzz that wierwille, himself, could not? Or was the manipulation of "marching orders of trained instructors" going forth [WOWs and Corps] able to reinforce a movement that wierwille could not? Young and vibrant souls were searching for something bigger than themselves, something to escape their miserable lives of discontent, and an identity of worthiness. The Jesus Movement was on the coasts and spreading inland. The commune livestyle was cool and hip. Enter: some guitar-playing hippies like Donnie F. and the dots connect.....of course, twi could tap the youth and bring them to hq for "summer schools and all." No great revelation there. Just simple observation, really. It probably goes without saying.....wierwille and his twi-cult needed the youth more than the youth needed them. <_<

Chockfull.......yeah, some things are layered in deep. I understand what you're saying. From what I see, it takes diligent perception and discernment to uproot the damage and plant a new garden. Wierwille's actions and predatory ways fill in the puzzle that so many of us never saw. Most are only knowledgeable of his stage/teaching persona. Very little else.

EVERYTHING about twi was sleight of hand......most had their eyes on the magician's performance and not concerned with the trickery involved. Twi "promoted" the body, soul, spirit......but the spirit/twi dynamic is nearly 90% of its agenda. Twi "promoted" husband/wife marriage.......but mogs were known to be sexually agressive with other men's wives. Twi "promoted" the individual family.......but disected its components at every turn and undermined its unity. Twi "promoted" educational prowess.........as long as one ALREADY had that harvard degree before coming to twi. Twi "promoted" health and non-smoking......as wierwille drank his drambuie-coffee and chain smoked in closed mtgs. TWI MOGS: Rules and regs for thee, but not for me.

When I took at twi's indoctrinational insanity and "how did I get fooled"...... I remind myself that I was 19 years old when twigs were simple, uplifting, and short. And, twi activities were only a subset of my college days. BUT.....step by step, the road downward was paved by manipulative leaders hundreds of miles away. The "undershepherding" was designed to herd me into twi's corral and control me. Commitment to twi.......usurped commitment to family, education, and careers. Commitment to twi.......was deemed more important that good parenting. Commitment to twi.......was perceived far more vital that career advancement. Commitment to twi.......was garnering rewards and heavenly crowns. It takes a village.....of controlled messaging to control the masses. <_<

Some three decades ago, when Rev. Tom Kn-pp and his wife Marilyn were in Africa for two years..... I talked with them on several occasions after their arrival back on hq staff. Also, the two first African corps guys, Andre Z. and Roger L. would return year after year to the roa festival and speak of outreach. The African "outreach" was an anomaly from all other international or U.S. outreach. The class registration was so meager and the numbers of idle Africans everywhere looking for some opportunity for advancement in a stagnant country were everywhere. Plus, in that culture most everyone walked to a nearby "fellowship" and brought along six to fifteen family members......the numbers multiplied quickly. Even after finishing classes, the corps leadership incorporated many layers of overseeing responsibilities to keep them occupied/busy. Like someone was responsible for roll call and reporting back to the class instructor. Even when Martindale visited the African continent in the mid-80s......his relative silence after his return to hq was quite revealing. I was left with the impression that, yes, there was huge volumes of people and outreach in Africa, but it was nearly impossible to quantify any sort of commitment level or spiritual growth. Just alot of people involved in twi activity, because there was very little else in their society. And, with the intermixture of many African languages and dialects (like Swahilli and Lengala sp?).....there was a rogue aspect that twi grappled with constantly. Even the country coordinator, Mutamba (??) would not allow twi leadership to boss him around and enjoyed the power role over people and was elevated in power after speaking on the main stage at roa a couple of years. And, with Rev. Tom Kn-pp having translated and teaching pfal class, they held to him as their spiritual leader and NOT victor paul wierwille. Nearly everything that one quantifies of outreach or international exposure was different in Africa. Twi may boast of these numbers from time to time.....but the African outreach has never been integrated into the twi-fold. They are a distinct people with a multitude of issues in play.

Yeah.....each undershepherd-er was instructed to be close by their class attendee during breaks. Monitoring and surveillance was the m.o. during breaks and after each night's segments. Four nights a week......and checked-on (monitored) over the weekends. And, even if you were perplexed by a question.....they steered you with a non-answer. excie......wierwille was scum, as this predator kept after you.

In pfal, wierwille laid out his plan. 1) Search the scriptures....with no private interpretation. 2) By the end of the class, vpw is interjecting and tweaking verses. 3) Be ye transformed by the renewing of the mind....spiritual growth. 4) By the end of the class, wierwille says "I'll tell you what to think if its right or not." 5) God loves a cheerful giver......freely ye have received, freely give. 6) By the end of the class, if you don't faithfully give to twi...God won't acknowledge you. 7) Jesus Christ is The Way, the truth and the life. 8) By the end of the class, you MUST stand with twi to walk with your heavenly Father. 9) The holy spirit will guide you into all truth. 10) By the end of the class.....just write "The Teacher Box 328 New Knoxville, OH." The bait-and-switch was right there in the foundational class. Nevermind the intermediate, or the advanced class, or going WOW Ambassador, or Fellow-Laborers, or Way Corps. Wierwille pulled it off in twelve sessions, 33 hours of "twist and shout" halleluahs. Of course, most who took "the class" were already pumped and primed with months of anticipation for how great this class was gonna be. And, no questions could be asked, cognitive dissonance, peer pressure, the climax of speaking in tongues, obedient follow-up, etc....and the dependency on twi took root. Many tangents in wierwille's "off-the-cuff" ramblings......like people forsake the man of God before they forsake the Word, or stand with those who taught you the Word, and the dependency deepens. Subtle commitments of the heart are made in silence.....as the class rolls on. Unknowingly, one is re-directing his allegience to a sinister and deceptive plan. And, how many pfal-ers were brought to twi's trough by a cute, flirty girl or dashing young man? So many things in play....is it any wonder how one's defenses were down? YET....I believe......that the true sinister deception was known to wierwille. He was 51 years old when pfal was filmed and had "head-faked" enough competitors thru the years to manipulate his game. From seminars, to itinerant speakers, to Leonard's class....wierwille was forging a way forward to his cult's throne where devotees would pay homage to his "greatness" a lifetime. I mean, really, how often (after pfal) were twi followers encouraged and motivated to daily go to their lord and mediator between God and man, the Lord Jesus Christ? Yeah.....me neither. Dependency on twi was the goal. Get 'em paying faithfully and weekly. Get 'em reading ONLY pfal books (for the next three months). Get 'em in a follow-up class as quickly as possible. Get 'em to denounce family and friends that might "talk them outta the word." Get 'em out witnessing and standing with twi brothers and sisters. Get 'em to go WOW and leave hometowns and their past behind. Get 'em FULLY DEPENDENT on twi.....spiritually, emotionally, psychologically. Even if they're destitute, with hardly a $20 bill in their pocket......there's still the "family of God." Maybe, wierwille was just an incompetent, bumbling preacher who led us astray.....but I really don't think so. More likely, he was a calculating, manipulative narcissist who wanted to pull the levers of control over people. With every step he took, he was manuevering his way into a position of authority.....at all costs. He didn't even care about his own children when he deeded "the farm" over to twi's posterity and non-profit status. And, the motorcoaches, the planes, the motorcycles, the abuse of women.....dying of cancer, running to geer, etc. His life of shame comes out......after his death (and all over the internet). MORE and MORE are still breaking free of twi's chains of dependency...... And, some may never quite figure it out. Sad. edit: typos

Well.....they ARE marketing "holy breathings" from the lips of wierwille. And, that seems to have worked for decades. <_< .

For those who may not know.........twi does NOT receive abs funds from international countries. Those monies stay within each respective country. Twi does, however, benefit financially from an "international" platform. Tapes, magazine subscriptions, bookstore sales, class syllabi, etc. and international advanced class attendees at hq. And, besides.....twi can tout its "international" presence to make it look bigger than it actually is. <_<

Mississippi Churnin'.....as in "churnin' out another clone."

The movie "Multiplicity" comes to mind. Click Here -- Multiplicity

Well, at least its rooted in the plaf series and wierwille's cloning principles...... Where do I sign up?

And.......the oppressive insanity regains a second wind