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Pat is mostly irrelevant to me ... when I think of Islam, (and I shoulda been more specific) I think of the roots of the religion ... I'm sorta thinking the various sects that are actually peaceful should do more to seperate themselves from the more aggressive roots of their religion, and from the current actions in the name of Islam. Some sects do a little of this, but overall their silence is deafening. I'm condemning the root doctine of aggression that Mohammed exemplified. I don't think the root doctrine of Christianity supported Hitler, and maybe not even the original intent of the crusades (which certainly was really hardly an organized army of Christian soldiers). Anyway, mostly I was responding to Tom's point about it starting with the crusades. That seems a bit of revisionist history that has become all too prevelant.I'm maybe leaning more toward being a US Constitutionalist than a Christian. There does seem to be something about this largely Christian based country that functions better than many of the Islam based countries. The mostly muslim throngs that were burning cars around Paris are an indication that the problem is more widespread than most like to admit. Oil has enriched some of these areas, but it seems the culture is not keeping up. There needs to be some structure in which those billion good Muslims can quell the violence among their ranks. Some continue to hope the more moderate Muslims in Iran will overtake the radicals, but it ain't happenin'. Or something like that ... it seems the freedom to live and invent brought great fruits to the "Christian world", while for whatever reason the "Golden Age" of science and learning in the Islamic world came to an end. I'll try to figure out the answer to all that by tomorrow. :) Also I'm just moving the discussion along ... it would be great to hear everyone's view.

Who said Pat is a prophet of Gawd? Fruitcakes surely say some things that are at least partly correct at times.

" For starters, the Crusades to the East were in every way defensive wars. They were a direct response to Muslim aggression—an attempt to turn back or defend against Muslim conquests of Christian lands." .... "That is what gave birth to the Crusades. They were not the brainchild of an ambitious pope or rapacious knights but a response to more than four centuries of conquests in which Muslims had already captured two-thirds of the old Christian world. At some point, Christianity as a faith and a culture had to defend itself or be subsumed by Islam. The Crusades were that defense." http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm That one is must read ... In this article, the word "crusade" (derived from the Latin word for "cross") in an Islamic context means a holy war or jihad. It is used as a counterweight to the Muslim accusation that only the Europeans launched crusades. Muslims seem to forget that they had their own, for several centuries before the Europeans launched theirs as a defense against the Islamic expansion. http://www.answeringislam.org/Authors/Arla...es_timeline.htm ...raiding expeditions were sent to ravage the Christian Spanish kingdoms to the north, the Basque regions, or France and the Rhone valley, bringing back booty and slaves. Andalusian corsairs attacked and invaded along the Sicilian and Italian coasts, even as far as the Aegean Islands, looting and burning as they went. Many thousands of non-Muslim captives were deported to slavery in Andalusia, where the caliph kept a militia of tens of thousand of Christian slaves, brought from all parts of Christian Europe (the Saqaliba), and a harem filled with captured Christian women ... and Finally, in the Holy Land (i.e., Palestine) itself, the Muslim yoke under the Seljuks had become particularly onerous for the indigenous Christian (and Jewish) population, as well as Christian pilgrims. Both the native and pilgrim populations were subjected to forced conversions, kidnappings, and murder in an atmosphere of overall insecurity for the life and property of non-Muslims. I sorta skimmed this one, but it seems the most thorough ... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4467 What happened to all those Christians in the "Bible lands" anyway? The original Bible belt was conquered by Mohammed. A Muslim site depicts it this way ... "most of those Christians embraced Islam during the last 14 centuries because Islam delivered what the Bible promised" You might see that differently if you failed to "embrace Islam". I'm still muddling through some of the other stuff ... but the facts seem clearer all the time ... Islam has never been peaceful, it is a doctrinal problem ... the "Christian" crusades were mostly defensive, and not really doctrinally supported by the Bible. (Of course it was war, and ugly in many ways) There seems to be a huge propaganda war ... it seems important to become informed. Much of history has already been rewritten ... trying to sort through it all is interesting ... cheers :) Oh, and are there large numbers of muslims that are currently peaceful? of course ... I'm sorta thinking the more westernized they are, the better. But still, the root of Islam ties them in with some pretty ugly history. Mohammed seems mostly warrior.

screwed lol yes, "half baked" way to go

that's almost there lol the second word is not moon either

Also a good guess, but it is the moon ... a special moon ... The second pic is a little difficult ... it is how you would describe his sunburn Like "Dude ... you are ****** " I loved "Mars Attacks"

Those are some good guesses, but the first word is not moon ... base, struck and dude lol .... that pic is funny no matter what you call it ...

OK, actually I kinda thought you were kidding ... and yes, I AM special :) Yeah, I think that was a repeat ... OK, here is one ...

What? LOL I meant your guesses on "Independence Day" clues helped raf get the answer. dress stew he

if the seat is stongly held by a repub, he may not have much competition ... still, that statement may inspire people to vote for anybody BUT him ... all he had to say was he was for term limits, stopping illegal immigration, and a balanced budget ... saying he would jail homosexuals may have just lost him his Mom's vote LOL

It seems you gave raf most of the hints for his answer, and since he must be preparing his acceptance speech, I'd say you should go ahead. :)

I'm guessing the majority of even Iranian muslims hate the thought of Iran getting nukes. Of the one or two million muslims in the US, I'm sure a relatively small number are terrorists, and a small percentage are aware of terrorist activities. But of the terrorists, almost 100% are muslims ... and most go to mosques regularly. No doubt some mosques are watched carefully, and geiger counters have been used at some. Of course in Iraq, those complaining the most about US targeting mosques were those using them as forts. It "offends" me that we have a description of the terrorists, yet any profiling is met with screams of racism (more accurately "bigotry"). And doctrinally, I question whether "regular" Islam comes out against violent jihad against infidels under some conditions. Not so much, as far as I can see, though the muslim you or I might know are just decent folks. But then most wayfers were decent folks that thought sex outside their marriage was wrong, only the inner sanctum new the "true doctrine" ... but then that was a cult !

OK "Sprawled Out" ... honestly, what do you really know about what I know about Islam? c'mon, be honest. as for robertson, he makes a lot of money and is well known and is probably getting young corps babes on the side ... edited ... yes Tom, they may be afraid, but they are safe as long as they don't speak up ... so much safer for them not to tell on the guys at their mosques that are preparing another attack ... as long as they are killing others, lets not go out of our way to speak up ... that is probably overstated, but that is sorta my concern ... but what do I really know about Islam? It's not like Iran getting nukes is really a big deal ...

Maybe Pat is trying to drum up donations with his bluntness. Many Christians don't really believe in the devil spirit possession thing, but some will take this opportunity to lump all Christians in with the snake handlers because of statements like this. Does anyone really need help understanding that radical Islam is evil? Of course Pat threw in that even "decaffeinated" Islam is not a religion of peace ... which is a little more edgey, though I tend to agree in some ways. The moderates seem much too tolerant of their evil brethren.

Weeds ... yechh. I've seen some crocus popping up , but the little bit of green here is mostly weeds and a little grass. The grapes are about half pruned but the buds aren't swelling yet. I'm starting some tomatoes from seed today. It was 75 yesterday, wind blowing around 30 mph today. Another week and it will be official ... SPRING

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you almost had it dooj, just need a couple synonyms for a couple of your guesses something is significant about the first pic ... ( I think :unsure: )

not "nee" bun he but dooj's hint helped

that was a good one dooj , this may be a quickie .. I moved the pics to the next page

You sound like me about 6 months ago Rummie ... I happened upon this site and have found a few I knew from way back. I left in '86 as well, and took piffle in '75 in Illinois. I sorta kept in touch with a few people for a few years, but almost completely forgot about wayfers for the most part. I was in the 9th corps ... I think excie is younger than us :) a little anyway ... good to see you here ...

well, I though of bunny, but can't think of any bunny movies ... I found "A Bunny's Tale" but then we are still stuck with the hide ... we could try bonnie un cl hide Bonnie and Clyde

BUN AN unknown kid ASShide " Bananas" Uncle Remus is just to throw us off

Fine and Ding ... FinedingThe first two clues were a little difficult, but I figured "knee moe" would give it away. Yeah, I figured out "tart" after I saw the one pic was missing, before that it looked like you were calling the gangster a tart gangster lol So where is our friend dooj? yeah, what dooj said ... :)

Yours was good ... I wondered why Tom thought it was a "tart gangster" i was wondering about his proclivity ... lolOnce I got anna tommy ... it was easy ... i was gonna add some variation by having a picture with the clue being what the people are saying ... like I needed an "ole' " for something, so was going to have a crowd watching bullfighting ... just a thought ... btw, those were the real reviews for "Rats"