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Happy Happy birthday to a fellow short term Pine Bluffer ... (if I remember correctly :) You are just a few months older than I am ... so you are still totally young

If I'm aching in a joint ... I just go to another joint, and buy more beer ... I was gonna say I have the urge to crap on a statue's head, but that is too close to what some bird brains really like to do :blink: I have a brooder house and a chicken house ... but no birds ... yet ... My hometown once made the national news when plastic pink flamingoes that had been disappearing for a year or so from lawns, all appeared in one place suddenly ... LOL but they had joined a cult and were rabid I think ... or had the flu maybe OK, I have no more brilliant comments at this time ... carry on :)

slide weights baby pounds kid hand weights slide and wait hmmmm

We could start a new thread and call it "Movie Bictionary" or "Broomy Rivetary"

Gematria was the subject of a teaching at Corps week (I think) once. (can't remember if VP taught it or just intro'd it with exuberance) That's where you give numeric significance to the words used ... then add and divide etc. and say "eureka ... I've found it" LOL Anyway they used the Greek, so I asked "someone" after about using the Greek, if we were saying the originals were Aramaic. (if the Greek was just a human translation, unless it was a God breathed translation, the numbers wouldn't mean anything) Anyway, this person seemed to agree with me, and just kinda shrugged. As my3cents said ... others seemed aware of the problems but endured it, or covered it, or whatever. I think if the researchers on staff became aware of systemic problems, they should have come forward and be fired if necessary. Not an easy thing to do inside that bubble, but they gave credence to VP by not "outing him". Fortunately Schoenheidt and some others eventually came forward. The guys that did the work on the 9/11 planetary alignments were pretty confrontational. ( now I wonder if there is significance to the 9/11 Jesus date and that of the Islamic choice of 9/11? ) Anyway, the gematria thing didn't add up, along with many other things. There is gematria for the aramaic too I think ... wonder what Bullinger uses in his numbers book ... I assume he covered gematria ... maybe not.

OK, now I need to step in here ... you can get doom from broom ... George did it ...LOL Indian Jones Temple ... what else is it? Maybe it doesn't hurt to slur one clue a little. Anyway, just curious, is there an official rulebook here? I mean if even George can figure it out ...

Was that from a SNL skit ... AND WE LIKED IT! LOL I'm thinking it was Chris Farley ... maybe part of his "living in a trailer down by the river" skit.I have a special request that you in tornado alley please keep your tornadoes in YOUR alley. I saw something about all the tornadoes this year and the alley is more like Missouri and Illinois :o instead of Oklahoma. Now I KNOW these are your tornadoes so would you please keep them on a leash?

LOL .. very perceptive patriot ... I'm probably blurring my arguments together ... repatriating that money back to mexico is a pretty big deal ... I guess they rent mostly ... I think I was thinking about way homes, fellow laborers, etc. ... I spose communal living could be interesting, but use the extra money for your own retirement, not twi loafers :)

so far the image of mohammed is intact ... and I see no terrorists coming down the lane ... I guess maybe little green footballs and michelle malkin sites don't like direct links to their pics.

Well, Comedy Central prostrated themselves before allah they censored the image of mohammed ... while showing jesus defacating on the pres (I think) Comedhimmi Central has submitted ... make all the crude comments you want about Christianinty ... but don't offend scientology (by telling what they really think) .... and NEVER show Mohammed's picture ... no, that might offend a terrorist. :blink: The cartoons were shown in Egypt long ago (the famous mohammed cartoons, not South Park LOL), and pic's of mohammed are in many institutions ... the battle line is now though, because it is about the west submitting (not about respecting)

I forgot about the teaching of the prophet that was "crookeder than a dog's hind leg" .. (Amos?) Anyway, vp had to be sure to get that in there as foundational to understanding his ministry ...

My earlier point about "saving up" was really specific to me. If I'd know I was staying in the area, buying a home would have been better. The tax advantages and capital gains on the home make it a pretty solid investment. Lately though, with real estate in some areas maybe overpriced, I've seen some arguments for renting. Maybe that's why I brought it up. Of course if 2 or 3 families can live together in one house, they can send more money to HQ ... which seems to be the twi preference.

Eloheim's Elite Best of the Best Probably lots of other phrases to show twi folks were better ... and HQ was the mountaintop ... I'm trying to remember when humanitarian type things came down from the place we sent ALL the money. It was more like the twiggies were there to admire and adore and support the "major leaguers" at HQ. The elite were there to tell you how to become as good as they were... I s'pose that meant they should believe for someone to send donations to support them like the good folks at HQ were supported. You might say twiggies did "believe" for support and twi received the money to help (from those twiggies' areas), but some folks at HQ didn't just have their foot on the hose, they had tapped in to the hose for themselves and they are still sucking from it. Or something like that ... it's always fun to come up with more analogies to discredit those egomaniancs. :)

at first I thought it was a fish eye ... after your guess dooj, it must be a rivet ... isn't that a willie nelson song? Mystic River take my mind .... LOL yeah, what tonto said ... I was googling whiskey river lyrics :)

His teaching about adultry being "OK" in the physical, God only meant it in the spiritual sense ... is the most obnoxious of bad behavior becoming bad doctrine (bed doctrine). How could he say God's own analogy of pure sanctity (?) is the marriage, but God really meant it was OK to cheat. So I guess God meant it was OK to cheat on Him too? Another main vice for him was alcohol, so there was that verse in the OT about strong drink for the Jubilee year, or something like that. So living more abundantly I guess allows strong drink all the time? I just remember the Jubilee thing about the big party being OK, or some such thing. Smoking .... hmmm That painting of him with the dog titled "the teacher"? (the trainer?) is interesting. The analogy was to his human dogs. Do a trick for him and get a pat on the head and a reward. Just the desire to paint himself as Martin Luther or some such, while not even using his own material ... showed he leaned to finding different doctrine... which was good for the rebellious youth of the time. The ego to stand out may have led to some of the doctrine, but rebelling against church dogma turned out to be good doctrine many times ... maybe.

I'd have to think the twi lawyers were smart enough to couch any admission like that in phrasing like "Even if said allegations were true ... blah blah ..." Since the statute of limitations is not the issue now (apparently), I'm pretty sure they didn't surrender on the other parts. That was just one tactic of the defense to stop the thing from proceeding further, the way I'm guessing. Still a significant point could be that the statute of limitations was not a factor (setting precedent?), but I'm thinking since this was ongoing for them till 2001, they are in a different category from those that got out many years ago. Again, just the way I see it from what little I know.

How long ago did these events take place? I guess the statute of limitations would normally be what, 7 years? Glad they are proceeding.

I'm in about the same time frame as sprawled out, stopping in here after being out for 20 years ... and for me practically no contact with wayfers for most of those years. The main common bond here is that most agree twi was manipulative and dishonest at its root. But some still believe much of the doctrine, some don't believe it at all, and all sorts of variations, as far as I can tell. People here have gone all different directions. It seems almost the opposite of insular. I guess everyone here is successful and literate enough to have net access, but other than that, I'm trying to figure what group of people is greasespot insulated from? They allow the childless beer drinking heathen in along with the saintly child rearing mothers. They even let a token catholic in, and a couple of conservatives. LOL Actually, I'm not sure there is such a thing as being "IN" here. After being out of twi for 20 years, it is kinda nice to chat with people who have some sort of history like my 20's. Since this is just a place to chat online, it doesn't take the place of the main part of our lives. Perhaps breaking all ties with anyone that ever was involved in twi would seem a more "pure" way to go, but I think I would have enjoyed a group like this for the last 20 years, even as I was out doing my own thing. I had plenty of chances to get into some sort of splinter group or home fellowship, but it just wasn't "me". A place like greasespot would have made it even easier to not get involved with something like that. It would have been sort of a home base while I was getting out and meeting other people. Who else can relate to you at all about getting out of twi? The only church I've tried to send people to is their local volleyball league, or volunteer group, or even a political group.

ok ex10, I'll give it a shot ... :) I do think some businesses can be run without "debt". Payroll is a debt, but there are supposedly assets on hand to pay that short term debt. But of course real money itself is a debt as I see it. A $10 bill is a note saying the government owes you $10 worth of something (used to be gold or silver). So exchanging money is just exchanging debt. (and didn't Jesus say it was better to "put money to work" rather than bury it?) But I spose twi's real point is for individuals not to borrow from a bank. For an individual to start a winery, you would need some capital. To borrow you need a good business plan or you won't get a loan. Or you could work for a winery and get experience, grow some grapes and make some wine, then work into starting your own business without debt. I certainly see merit to the no debt approach. Like it or not, when you borrow, you've given over part of your life to paying off that debt. Having that obligation can take a serious toll. On the other hand, if you go into business "undercapitalized" you may fail due to too much scrimping. You don't spend enough on advertising, you don't hire enough help or pay enough to get good workers, or your cheap equipment is inefficient ... so the guy that can borrow and wisely use the money comes out ahead of the guy that scrimps and never spends enough to make it work. Every dollar he can borrow at 6% and have it earn 10%, that is all "good debt". The more of that kind of money he borrows, the richer he will be. But that may depend on his ability, and there is always risk. But in the marketplace you compete against the guy that is willing to take that risk. (And that "guy" might just be Wal-Mart, which even seasoned business veterans have trouble competing against) My theory on the home thing had nothing to do with twi. I decided I could save the difference between buying a home and renting. I paid almost as much in rent, but had no repairs and no lawn to mow, and lived in a nicer neighborhood than an equal house payment could have afforded. Of course homes have really appreciated, but borrowing on a house in an inflated area now with a flexible rate loan could leave you "upside down" if values stopped going up or went down. Your debt might become greater than the value of your home. In my case, if I'd bought in my neighborhood in New Orleans without flood insurance (many didn't have it) I would have been under water. Still, home ownership is a pretty good way to go, but you could save and buy some land and build your own house without debt. That is what I did. And my business could have been much bigger without ever going in debt, but I didn't want to work that hard :) Overall I'd say there is some validity to twi's idea, but the system is sorta set up so you almost have to borrow for some things. So you have to determine what is worth going in debt for ... that seems to be where twi is wrong ... they make a law. But if you go in debt, choose your rut carefully, you may be in it a long time. Or was your question about what people with debt did when the command came down? LOL I do know some people that were much happier when they sold out their business and took a 40 hour/week job. They felt free.

If dog is all good, why does he pea on my carpet? My dog, My dog, why hath thou forsaken me ... all k9, all the time on a seperate note ... A dog says, "you pet me, you feed me, you shelter me, you love me, you must be God" A cat says "you pet me, you feed me, you shelter me, you love me, ... I must be God OK, this ties in to this subject maybe , VP got so much worship, he figured he was godlike, even without the miracles or other godly things ... he should have been more dog like ... Woof

I was lying but the dog cannot lie that is ... if you believe there is a dog ...

I'm wondering if anyone ever saw a broken leg healed, or anything obvious like that. I mean, my mom gets up and walks out of her wheel chair all the time. Those miracle cancer cures are interesting, but maybe the doctor was just covering for some mixed up x-rays ... better to just say "amazing, I've never seen anything like it" LOL I had one of those waking up on the interstate experiences ... hand on the shoulder and a voice saying my name clear as day ... just as the car was going off the road (I was alone btw lol) But I never saw anything like a real healing ... nothing obvious like we should have expected to see ... maybe I didn't ABS enuff ...

yeah, what loafing said ... did he do that playing hockey? hope he is OK ... I guess don't rush it though, don't want to reinjure the thing ... mother knows best :)

Well, investing in funds isn't quite like gambling day to day in trading. The idea of something for nothing via the stock market can have it's dark side, but investing wisely seems almost biblical. I am starting to think there are a lot of Enron type shenanigans though ... so maybe the end is near

How do you know what I think about when I'm laying awake, and if it helps or hurts my performance? WOOF LOL actually I never thought about it, it was cut and paste ... I can't quite reconstruct what I would have said ... but I was too busy laughing about "dog" to notice ... but I thank you for your support ... now I lay me down to sleep, I pray some people got a good laugh before the grammar police intervened ... and raf, shouldn't you be working on your pictionary homework? yes belle, that too :)