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four A dove in incense foray or afraid of afraid of innocence

"Hindu the night" is correct :) I thought maybe the cow, the many armed guy, and the cross legged guy might help ... Your turn doojie for your reading pleasure, if you have a mooment... In Hinduism, the cow is considered sacred and its protection is a recurrent theme in which she is symbolic of abundance, of the sanctity of all life and of the earth that gives much while asking nothing in return. Most Hindus respect the cow as a matriarchal figure for her gentle qualities and providing nurturing milk and its products for a largely vegetarian diet. Hindus do not worship the cow, a common misconception, yet it holds an honoured place in society and most will not eat beef in general.

first pic represents a bunch of different holidays .. with a common theme

purple squid moby dick whale humpback debbie does dallas ... was that nominated again?

In the game where he got 713, Phillies fans had a huge banner across the front row in the outfield when he came out. "Ruth did it on beer, Aaron did it with class" They showed it on TV with Bonds trotting out there and standing in front of it. Not signing the ball ... what an arse ... so much for fan appreciation.

I brought up the point about accepting the apology if they included a big check. That wasn't really sarcasm, except to the extent I don't believe they'll ever do that. But anything less than that would seem insincere and purely motivated by their own self interests. I don't think such bluster does anything for the "healing process." It just extends the fraud. My pure heart in giving ABS has nothing to do with their impure heart in taking. They took under false pretenses. An insincere apology with no retribution is not doing the right thing, it is just another phony maneuver. They can give the extra $50 million to whatever charity or cause or exwayfers they want ... that will be their ABS back to those they defrauded (and defrocked). Then God can bless them for their "giving" ... and if they really have a ministry ... God will see to it they prosper. Let's put the glove on the other foot this time, if it fits. How many needy WOWs were told ABS was the key to their prosperity? This is TWI's turn to really get blessed and be spiritual by using that law of giving and receiving. It works for saint and sinner alike. I have no connections to the way, so that is easy for me to say, but I don't see how a phony apology helps. If current leaders are apologetic great, why are they still perpetuating the thing?

Well, if they included a nice big check with their written apology, I'd accept that

A Light in the Darkness I never heard of that movie, but used imbd search (George said it was OK) the odd lighting is what struck me about the picture

I want to see what happens next for the little puwdy tats ...

raf sometimes forgets about this place for a few days at a time ... maybe frogetting to answer or post a puzzle ... so we usually merrily roll along without him ... but it's up to you ...

I think it is ok since you are new :) especially since everyone else has had a chance it seems

yellows tub marine you are a winner ....

the first two are one

OK thx ... I thought I read something about emails and pm's through GS could be monitored ... anyway, if I really have something secret to say I'll say it via a different method. It is really another topic, but kinda blended with the whole point I was making that it seemed paw was maybe there for the thread ... but just listenening in. It's a great day out ...

ok paw ... I guess I was looking for more input from you as this thread progressed and came to different crossroads, so to speak. And you did email me and I emailed you back and I chatted with sogwap ... so we can carry on with expressing our opinions .. :) now where is that freud guy? oh, the chat thing only tied in cuz you appear and disappear there, but your name doesn't show up. So it was like this thread ... since you didn't reply more, I wondered if you were there or not. 12 hours ... wow, I guess you were talking to someone ... but all that private talking didn't appear here to everyone ... so I don't read minds either ... OK?

really cool dooj ... congrats

ok abi, maybe ... my point is paw introduced a provocative topic and just walked away from it ... finding out someone's favorite song doesn't tell you if they are sincere ... freud didn't tell much ... maybe he didn't want to say more cuz of the working relationship .. fine ... but it still leaves everyone hanging ... and since he directly mentioned sogwap, without saying her name ... the details of that became pertinent but he just threw out that hot topic, and walked away ... at least from the thread .. i haven't heard the live radio chat and the comment about GS PC ... well it is his site ... how does something become PC here? Just some questions ... of course he can secretely monitor our chats I guess, even the private ones ?, so maybe he learned something tonight ... edited part ... this partly came to my mind from a completely different site ... the subject of the need to answer on these public forums, because otherwise perhaps idle comments become like historical documents that can be referred to and linked to ... as comments within GS are linked to. I see now sogwap saying she never meant to offend anyone ... it was a different time frame. That sorta changes the tone. But it seems a stitch in time saves nine ... pages of hostility ... it's a jungle out there ...

I think introducing this topic without being more specific is incindiary. paw said "In a thread recently, a woman spoke openly about an affair with LCM. She made some observations that, I felt, were honest, not GSPC but honest. What followed was a vile bashing of her and her opinions. Was she not entitled to her opinion? Or have we gotten to the point that we throw stones and ask questions later or never? Now I know that GS is a tough crowd, but My God. And to add to the disgust of the whole thing, people that I have protected in the past were in the front row throwing stones!" the direct quote from sog went beyond speaking of her affair and into claiming those that claim rape are jilted liars. I see no other way to read what sog said ... maybe it was explained away later ... then paw said "I checked both of them out and there were NO signs that they weren't who they said they were. Heck I even found out the favorite band of one of them." what the heck does that mean? I mentioned before I know sog, knowing her favorite band has nothing to do with her statement about the alleged rape victims just being scorned lovers. I'm still left guessing the other person that "knew" lcm was freud. This is a whole nuther topic. I take it sog was referring to sex with vp and lcm. Freud is just a supposed acquaintance of lcm with not much to offer except he felt craig was now in a humble position. He never disclosed much more that I saw .. maybe he was on the level, maybe he was testing the waters here ... Anyway, opening a topic like this without many more specifics is just thowing gas on a hot subject, and saying "now please don't let this blow up in my face". LOL I haven't heard the rational discussion yet with shell and abi and I look forward to it, but I forgot the speaker cable after my one computer modem got fried by lightening ... and what is GSPC? there is a "politcal" correctness on GS? I'd like to see that defined in the guidelines, bylaws, somewhere Paw, you never answered about part of her story being the claim that those claiming rape were just upset ... so you are sticking with sog's story is right .. they are liars? You can't just duck out whenever you feel like it, and hope no one notices ... your name doesn't even show when you are in chat ... grrrrr This is a huge problem as I see it. You said her story (including alleged rape victims just being liars) was legit ... and you never corrected that, so it stands ... what am I missing here? A final note, from my 8 years or so chatting in many forums on the net, you have to learn to ignore the rabble rousers. That is just background noise ... find the sensible folks and ignore the maniacs ... maybe interact with the lunatics at times for sport .. poke em with a stick ... or is that what this topic was, just poking us with a stick?

Goey you dawg ...lol

boy boy admiral / birdman male

most are kiddy cats at times, and big dawgs at others :) Woof

Tom, I am very offended that you suggested dooj wears depends ... Otay ... I hope topper comes back for more ... rules ... there ain't no rules ... Butch and sundance kid

maybe they have enuff folks around to still qualify as a non profit ... so all those rules were just trimming the fat the fat being anyone with an ounce of sense that might protest ... that way they can live "happily ever after" off the fruit of others' labors ... not all that great a life, but i guess it beats working for a living ... if you have no shame ... just a theory