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Did I really spend all this time listening and posting these lyrics? geesh. I'm glad those made it to the garbage. Here's a blast from past for some of you... a little Pressed Down... http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=8716417

1.5=The God-fearing minority Who actually do some "side research" without the TWI filters.... and start to notice ''Way Theology'' unraveling right before their very eyes. These would be in the silent dissenters group, however, and recognize that there IS somewhere ''OUT THERE" they could go. Now, they have a choice to make. Unfortunately, sometimes that choice is too high a price (to them) to take a stand. They will reap with bitterness the sting of their choice to stay. The cost to their soul, the mental health of themselves and family, and the empty chasm engulfed between them and God, is a very high price indeed.

Wake up call #1- attending a meeting at a local church where dead center was a huge beautiful bronze statue of JESUS CHRIST! What was he doing??? WASHING THE DISCIPLES FEET!!!!! I stood motionless, speechless and humbled, as the tears poured out from years of missing my Lord and Savior. That was the beginning of the many ends of my relationship with TWI.

Been there, living that! In-law #1, not in, but will not let go of ONE BIT OF DOCTRINE. In-law #2 is full fledged innie......was going to move to be with said grandkids, till our departure. Now, it's really just a matter of comfortability. The older folks just see no need to rock the boat and change what they are used to! What happened to doing things because they are RIGHT>>>>???? For the glory of God and truth? All selfish reasons really. Our relationship is strained.....no more ''full sharing'' or even deep discussions about God and life. It's all 'weather and kids related"....that's it. The biggest thing I've learned since leaving TWI~ is that life IS NOT ABOUT ME!!!!!! but that is another thread... I am sure some of the kids want to leave, but, like some said, "parents; friends;" = stay and suffer!

HI EXCIE ♥♥ and another thing....... is there anyplace or anybody on the face of the planet, when hosting an event, has hostess-serving sit downs?????? What is wrong with buffet style ? Oh, I know, not enough manners control......

Saw some creepy pictures today of the latest and greatest Adv. Class - FOR TEENS~!!!! That seems to be all the people they could get to attend this joke of a bible fest anyway. to quote: "this is the deepest biblical research study I have ever heard yet!!!" um, hello? you are like 12..... Tons of games, ball playing, cards, and even dancing the (shhhhhh) Electric Slide. Yes, folks, the quest for biblical knowledge at it's finest all tailored around hormones and sports. I thought youngins were smarter nowadays, you know, with the INTERNET AND ALL..????? How can they go, when you know darn well that they know more about what others say about TWI, then we ever thought possible or probable back in the day? OH, wait , I get it. They go for the partying......if you like partying with no real freedom, but the sneaking is fun... and reading anything here is ALL LIES!!!!!!!! Yes, every story of betrayal and plagerism,lies and sex abuse, atheistic beliefs and spiritual idolatry is all damnable LIES!!!!!! I know, we've got nothing better to do than to make up stories about a ministry that we DEVOTED OUR ENTIRE YOUTH TO......FOR NOTHING!! But you go on, have fun learning all about the devil spirits and how awesome YOU are.... It's not too late to leave it all behind. Have a real life. go. really. get out. live. find God outside the cult walls. seriously. you won't change it. I know you think you can, many have tried. Sorry, You won't. *what was just as creepy as watching them all dance, was the dining at the rectangle tables and the hostess smiling and the little white bucket under the chair and everyones plates with the polite amount of servings, and all hands on lap* ((((shudder))))

The WORD is OVER the WORLD!!!!

I now thankfully realize that ''prayer'' is a love relationship. Father/child appropriate. If my 2 year old keeps begging or asking for something, I have a few things to consider. *What is best for him? Does it go along with MY plans, life, purpose? *What is his attitude in asking? Is he being a spoiled brat, impatient, demanding, unthankful? *Is it going to add to his life or detract? So, as much as I want to give him "Yes" answers to his ''prayers'' (asking)..... Sometimes, my answer to him is a resounding ...........................................NO! edited to fix weird stuff....

Ditto what everyone said. You don't/won't/can't do it overnight, or by ''renewing your mind''.... One day at a time. Start with what you do believe. Which is hopefully, GOD. Ask Him what to do. Get rid of old bible /notes. Buy a new one. If fellowship with others around God is what you need, then pray and go to a bunch of churches. Don't let the foundational lies of '' JC is Not God" or "Are the Dead Alive Now"...distract you from worship and learning new beliefs. You can tackle those over time and by allowing God to heal your heart. Read here, read everywhere ,ponder, be still...... and WELCOME!!!

Hey, I love JJ....he helped me and so many others trying to leave, to put together and make sense of so much doctrinal heresy the Way puts out! Especially the believing article on being ''an atheistic belief" ... As far as WHY ,TWI and occult are not written about enough is simple. IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH. Seriously. They haven't made that big of an impact in the world, as the JC's or Mormons, so basically they get ignored. The other is that many of the folks over the years get involved in TWI as very young adults....they didn't have time to study a whole bunch of occult religions.

Like my signature states from Jeremiah.....get busy DOING, then, you'll be KNOWING the LORD, Yushua, Jesus, etc.... This bibliotry wordsmithing is getting to me. Too many needs in the world to be sittin here debating, posting, defending your positions on excommunication and possible recruitment. "IF" you really are who you say you are, then you wouldn't be doing what you're doing here. just imo. peace.

"The whole universe responds when we are fully persuaded. Thanks" Yes, dude, the whole universe responds you YOU! What EGO this promotes.....oh, wait, we are talking TWI folks, I almost forgot with all the love bombs they throw lately..... Same error, same atheistic beliefs under the guise of a Godly system, same self-centered, self-indulging attitudes.....just waiting for the next insatiable, lusty, selfish behavior to rear its ugly head.... They even love some of the "preachers'' on TV~ the ones that promote health, wealth and prosperity ONLY!!!

Don't forget all the front spot parking spaces we missed because of the adversary!!!!!!

All the students at IHOP (Int. House of Prayer) have to keep journals...... and TURN THEM IN EVERY WEEK! ((((((((((((((((((((((((eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkk))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) *and they are encouraged to be real about ALL their negative thoughts and problems. (((((((((((((((((((((((shudder)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Let's see.... the drive. the content. the drive. the content. oh, and the crappy cake.

I'm starting to have (((flashbacks))))....!!!! One sentence put the nail in the coffin when deciding to leave TWI ...and that was a question from a Christian ''outsider''. she said: "Sounds like you worship the bible, instead of the Author of it?" nuff said.

and WHY did he do this?

Oh my, I can write a book about this...... no time to reflect too far today but: "I can't wait for the gathering together, cuz there is no marriage, and I can't wait to get with you ...."! That was the usual for me for some reason....YAK! All married men of course....

But to what end? Who is collecting the ''non'' profits??? Is it ''in case of emergency"? I was always taught from TWI that was "Baaaaaaaadddddd Believing". They certainly aren't GIVING IT AWAY, or setting up CHARITABLE PROGRAMS for local/global community nor are they paying staff what they are worth. What is the reason for the hoarding??????

.....and I'm getting hives just thinking back to those days of filling out the blue forms and making charts. I kid you not! "They didn't keep track" .....L....MSAMTFOTF!!!!!! (Lauging so hard I tipped my sombrero and my taco fell on the floor!)

As a Twig Coodr/Fell Coord for all of the 90's...... I will tell you flat out.... I DREW CHARTS TO TRACK GIVING and INCREASES FOR EVERY PERSON IN MY FELLOWSHIP!!!!!!!!! (and if not giving more than where you started over a period of time, CONFRONTED)!!!! We were INSTRUCTED to do so.

The main difference to me, which is kind of ironic too, is that anyone in TWI, would totally RUN from this group! They would label them ''full of debil spurts, and opening up their mind, and making Jesus God'', so they would have no part of it. They run more from emotions, where as in TWI, NONE!! What makes them similar is the 'Modus Operandi" .....exactly what Jeff pointed out in their methods of recruitment, the figurative gun to their head if they leave, and the narcissistic attitude that permeates the followers. They keep buying up more local property to house the students, they broadcast live on GodTV and folks from all over the world flock there. ((((((shudder)))))