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oh, you guys don't get it at ALL dovey is valiant for the TRUTH, doncha know... and all the stupid frickin people be damned, right, dovey????

Paul would have been ordained at Corps Week in 79, the 1rst year there was a "Corps Week". Now, the Corps always came in a bit early but 79 was the "official" first week before raca just for the korks... Interesting to me that that first kork weak Vic was in the most rotten mood, chewing out V*rge and chomping on Evan and Paul, my 2 buddies from the sickppth kork, for daring to question fatHeadloy for his athletes mumbo-jumbo... that should have been the tip-off right there to avoid all following kork weeks like the devil....

You might be the sad sack QB, bud....where were you?????????????????????? "Operating the manifestations" wow, what a wacky term....how old hat can ya get.....

I will add, of course Del was not perfect, who ever thought he or any of us was??? but Del struggled to help people under his responsibility with the growing knowledge of just how deep the cancer ran. He finally gave up after he was booted from Colorado for no-one Really probably knows why. He was a far sight more honest a man with far more integrity than the upper echelon, in general, exceptions noted, I am sure..... The Del I know never tried to sell she-iite and call it milk chocolate as so many others did...

There is no need for more exposures of sin, they abound ,and need not come from the ranks of born again ones, What would be the value in a continued exposé of all the things that God has paid the price in Christ to overcome? We don't need an exposé of sin or of sins we need an exposé of God His Word and of the Lord Jesus Christ. Our calling is not one of loosing our way ,but to be On The Way to the great day of the glorious return of Jesus Christ. Until Then I'll be On The Way....... There's a fork in the road ahead for all who have lost their way if they care to get back on the well worn path. thank you, CG ... words straight from the mouth of the guy who covered it all up to begin with... I think you might peruse 1 and 2 Timothy for exposure of leaders' repeated sin, mr dove..... and perhaps Galatians as well..

But now I see and Ron G. --- AMEN, AMEN and AMEN. Apologizing for TWI and their heartless actions and even more heartless inaction simply does not cut it, soCal. Their evil is now an open book, nuttin you can do to shut it once more.....

ok, it IS funny, but I would think he meant not some dead guy's words on paper but real live people with all the parts including the tongue......

Dear Jardi, happy, happy, happy!! :eusa_clap: Glad you are around so we can celebrate your b-day and stay in touch. We love you Alfakat and Ms. Alfakat

Dot, I looked for a place to post on your b-day and did not see one, and forgot to come back and say happy, happy, happy! :eusa_clap: I am doing well, thanks so much for your love and help and being involved in my time of need. I love you. Alfakat

Neo...get over it... this is a FREE board, open for discussion. You are obviously still living in 1985, thinking about going to the Rock, etc., etc. lotsa water over the dam, under the bridge and out to sea since then. perhaps a bit of serious reading will catch you up on what happened that was NOT shouted from the main stage every August. All things are Never as they seem...take a moment to consider that this forum has existed for 6-7 years and still people show up on a regular basis who had NO idea any of this ever happened....

Dana is the :limb leader:, of sorts, for a bunch of people who are involved with him and Chris Geer's thing, group, what-have-you. He is in Boise and no doubt in the phone book

as usual, well put, socks. sometimes we, or mostly "we", want the "all or nothin'" approach from the song in Oklahoma. As each year pases by, I realize how futile that all is. But when someone or ones step up and say " I, or we, have The TRUTH" or some other such nonsense, THEN they are going to be held to a HIGHER standard. Or, in another way of speaking, it tends to become more black/ white, all or nothin. If one does not wish to be held to that standard and wishes to proclaim, loosely speaking, "what's a little sinnin' amongst friends (or congregants)" then that group or leader is fair game to be brought down, exposed, what have you by quote MORAL OUTRAGE end quote. or as my old man usta say, you can't have it both ways. You cannot state, or heavily imply, that you have all the answers not known in 20 centuries and then have a secret, anything goes standard for those who can handle it. WHY???? well, mostly cuz' of what socks said -- we are what we are, mankind is fallen and needs the help, and the moral standard that goes with, that God provided in His wonderful Son Jesus. To deny that and say that with super-duper, triple top-secret knowledge, one can become free from any responsibility to live up to the one who set the standard, the framework and the deliverance in the first place, is simply the repackaging of the oldest lie as something brand shiny new. Did the Lord God really say.....hey, if you only knew more, you would be just like HIM...the only one who had ever followed that path before ended up being booted with all his buddies. Secret knowledge produces open sin, apparently

Thank you, one and all! Your love and concern in my time of need have been overwhelming and I thank God for you all. This year, I can't drive 55....

hey, brother Strange, they say it's your birthday! We're gonna have a party, party! Somebody oughta write a song.... love ya, bro!

Sunesis, this happened your interim year, my last year in rez while at RC after Jan. 78 sometime. You should have heard how Del promoed it...he left the door wide open to any one who had half a brain to understand what he REALLY thought about it....BUT he didn't actually say it was krap, just let you come to that conclusion if you listened close enough. Del was a master.... The stuff was rank, so many of us could not believe this was being palmed off as real .....

a few thoughts... God created the heavens and earth in the beginning. In the beginning of what? In the beginning of this universe, this "expanse", this construct that houses all we know, all we can "see" and much more we cannot. This construct is a space-time continuum; time is a dimension and an integral part of our universe. Man did not make or create time, God did when He created the heavens and earth in the beginning. Remember, God "inhabbits" eternity, he is timeless and beyond time and space. He was before "time" began and He will someday bring about a new heavens and earth in which "time will be no more", as the song says. This new construct will be eternal, just as God Himself is, will it not?? We will have everlasting life, correct? No end, because He has no end. God can certainly see all we will ever experience in this heavens and earth for He is above, beyond and greater than this expanse, for He created it and was God before it was created. If we have no will, however limited in comparison to Him, then this truly is a cosmic-sized joke..... :D

perhaps others are posting for JAL, LNM -- eh? Certainly things posted were slanted JAL's way, not MG's way...

LNM claims he has no dog in this hunt, yet he "answers" for JAL and does that unsanitary thing of putting words in others' mouths. WHY do you care, lnm, you claim you are busy, why not get busy and take a hike if you do not have anything genuine to "add" to the discussion.... right now, playing jal's toady seems beneath you...give it up.

In the States, CG supports himself by selling his classes via his network of those who worship & adore him. In order to deemed worthy and get selected to represent him and his stuff, you have to jump through some hoops and promise to send him money and not give it to anyone else, when you run his classes (and to really "be" with him, you have to take all his classes yourself), don't expect any real communication from him, he only accepts faxes and if you question anything, you'll be deemed unworthy and can't run his classes anymore. His followers are lock, stock and barrel Geer-heads. If you aren't with him then you've turned your back on THE Word of God as given by the MOG (VP) and later entrusted to CG. It's the Way all over again. Some folks never learn. He's still promising he'll get that Advanced Class done, but it hasn't happened and annually, he whines about those that have "hurt" him or his ministry and "turned their backs" on him. Want some cheese with that whine (wine)? On the other hand, you can pray for his wife, she's been dealing with multiple sclorosis for years now.

my exact question, as well -- is this ok with everybody, is it cool, no biggie???? oh, but WD says even though literally dozens over the years on Waydale and GreaseSpot have confirmed it, he just can't accept it..... WD, you are pitiful

p--roof, scha-mooff, what are ya gonna do with it IF you had your proof ?????? take it to the bank????? I, also, knew M*arsha quite well when we were in the 6ckk kork together and NEVER could figure out what had happened on her interim year. Hope Rich directly questioned Vince F about this whole thing after we graduated and was told the F*C*ING stock way dazed answer: SHE IS POZAZZED. Nice, eh WD, OLDIESFART, and other ostritch-types..... You folks are WILLINGLY blind; you have WILLED to be and therefore, CANNOT see.... :asdf: I have asked you chicken-sh**s this question before, 3 or 4 times and NEVER once received an answer. At 45, 50, 55, 60 -- whatever age you are, HOW MANY have gone out and had SEX with tennagers and 20-somethings; you know, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 , 25 year olds that you are a minimum 30, 35, 40 years their senior; even ONCE?????????? Now how about making it your life-style????????? How about having other young women(girls) set you up with them???????? . . . . . AND YOU ARE A CHRISTIAn MINISTER WITH REVELATION FROM GOD ALMIGHTY NOT KNOWN SINCE THE FIRST CENTURY??????? (don't like the shouting? TOUGH SH-*T...... and this is just some sin, eh??? huh, some kinda wacko religion ya got there, son.....

I was on my interim year on staff the year the 4th corps graduated(because they graduated after RACA) and for some reason 15 couples sticks out in my mind....M and B Gl**kin, K and H S***uth, R and J B*lt, if I thought long enough I could most likely name all 15. Seems like it was the apple trees, Catcup. And of course, at least 8-10 4th kork couples got married, as well. The 6th kork weddings, ah yes Kansas full-scale late July heat in a navy blue wool siut, 3-piece, natch...... I was a groomsman along w/ Larry Romai*e for a 6th kork couple. A truly Zen-like experience as one attempted to transcend the heat.... passing out water to little old ladies about to swoon. Speaking of swoon, yes TP and NM but first before either of them was Dav*d H**shead, I believe. And he crumpled like a freaking sack o' potatoes.... It was not Al W, it was Steph*n Ha**ison and Th*r*sa that stepped up to take ole vicsters wrath and SH handled himself quite well as I remember. So sorry to hear that it was even worse than I knew or remembered it to be, Catcup. Good ole way daze, vicster always had all the answers, even to stuff nobody asked and nobody wanted his opinion on....fricking busy-body that he was and control freak to boot....

by my count, since wattagasbags's post: morons - 9 intellects - 1(this would be wattagasbag)

just wanted to clarify there is a break between the first sentence, my reply to TheHighWay, and the rest of my post directed to wattagasbag....