herbiejuan

I too am amazed by our kids living habits...I'm a non traditional student at UWG you should be here in the trenches to see what the other kids are doing, or not. They are not any more out of control than we were at that age and alot more informed but also dumb. as dumb as we were and perhaps in some regards smarter. A pal of mine who works in student IT sez his biggest customer is the female students who have downloaded porno. Secomd to that is the high std rate on campus which, while high isn't unusual.

I am either a screaming tornado a scrawny man or scrawny satan I am preplaexed and dismayed but still scrawny, life is so unfair.

There are no privacy rules regarding pm's as far as our government is concerned so if you want 15 seconds of fame now's your time. Frankly any messages I have made that may imply any sort of threatening message should be taken with a grain of salt unless you hear otherwise in which case it would be in your best interest to duck.

Today I cried. My first post on waydale started with that statement. My daughter has just flipped the family car over without wearing a seatbelt. We were lucky, many are not. She is still dealing with the conseqences of that event. Since then alot of things have gone one,some not pleasant nor sociable and occasional criminal. but life goes on... I cried today because I was ok with me, not perfect but learning and improving.

Wow so sorry for the loss and late justice D I'm saddened by the loss on both sides of the jury box, what an unfortunate set of events for everybody.

D it is a self standing educational entity with copywrited material, as of today it is unincorperated and uninsured but those details will be sorted out next month. We are running the program thru UWG's Continuing Ed Dept. and using ground that UWG is providing for the project. ttwo years ago we were offered 300 acres, a meandering river and 1 million $'s to start this off but we couldn't stand the politics involved and have since built other alliances. The local U began its existance in the town I live in. Several prominent B'town folks hold prominent postions at the school and realise the old south's ideas are just that, old.

Thank you. I can't begin to list the folks here that were a part of this effort, the list would go back to 1998 at least and involve years of listening to me ramble... Thank You me

The Growers School began along time ago and has involved alot of inputs but essentially its a way to train folks wanting to grow organic and sustainable foods for local and regional markets. We cover vegi production, composting, soil managment, marketing and farm managment and planning, it's a pretty comprehensive course and is designed to give the novice grower a somewhat detailed overview of sustainable production techniques (including visits to real farms) and further resources to rely on for guidance including practicing farmers. It is a key step in the process of developing a regional network of growers that relies less on a west to east shift of produce to a more even north south network that relies more on shifts of weather rather than convienient shipping to produce local grown foods.

I got a call this morning from Bill the USDA extension agent and the school is officially funded, we have cash in hand. We have three more grants pending, they would substantially strengthen this effort. The curriculum is finished, instructors picked and the local U is providing us with a small piece of land to lay out the demonstration plots and develop a community garden. Landscaping will grade us a parking area and level out the growing area. We've got great topsoil and a 100 x 100 x 5' deep pile of well decomposed sawdust they will add into the beds. Students have been tending to this area on a volunteer basis and there is interest in developing a student community garden on site (which means I won't have to work it all by myself). I'm planning on having stuff in the ground by the end of next month and with our high tunnel hothouses and row covers hope to keep a portion of the area in production by the time the first class begins in Jan or Feb. I found a few tomato varieites that will set fruit in 38 degree weather and while they may taste terrible we can grow stuff like carrots cabbage onions garlic and field greens that do taste good.. Apparantly we will be holding an official groundbreaking ceremony and mini sustainable ag conference to kick this off (or so I've been told). If this is true (remember I'm just the benevolant dictator not the boss) I think we'll hold a pole barn seminar that weekend too. We could use a sturdy structure out there and them Home Depot sheds are pretty light duty compared to what I'm used to and a handful of paying volunteers can build in a day. Overall I am relieved because now I know the most important unknown, the base funding and that allows me to go ahead and design the program and site the way we want it rather playing a guessing game over how much money do I get to spend, can I afford a freestanding greenhouse or not, can I hire labor or do it myself, how much outside help will I get to pull this off and just how many years can we keep this going off of the initial funding? All things that have been on my mind fer the past few months Ok years :)

How many are suffering from AIDS How many are suffering from Malaria? How many Africans might be helped by an international effort to provide basic medical servies like clean drining water and syringes, condoms and education to help them solve their own problems rather than us stepping in as the good parent and solving it for them? It worked in Europe and the US, why shoudn't it work here?

I did a quick scan on the most recent international information on the kill level of DDT. Its in terms of rats and rabbits it takes 7/100's of an ounce to kill either one, it is a toxic substance, lets not make any mistake about that. Science says it is toxic and it remains that way for a long while in the soil and can be uptaked by plants. Science also shows insects develop resistance to it and we develop a balance of sorts by storing it in our fatty tissues and then excreteing the rest. Maybe an organiochloride is good to add to your daily uptake of vitamins, I don't know. Our understanding of the world has changed alot since we were WOW's. Things we took for granted we refute today, it is a process of growing up and recognising the issues that face us today have changed since we were kids.When Rachal wrote Silent Spring she represented the tip of the iceburg of a silenced undercurrent of American's concerned with the use of chemicals and a bunch of other stuff and effects they could have on us and the world around us. I think to understand what Rachal was driving at you need to read all of her books and understand that it was the 1920's when she began her studies at Chatham College and graduated Magna Cum Laude. She earned her Masters in Zoology and Genetics at Johns Hopkins University. In terms of her scientific approach to the subject it looks to me like she applied what was considered standard research and study practices at the time and extarpoated ideas and pursued their limitations. In terms of her thinking, I think she simply reworded her thoughts in a document anyone could understand called Silent Spring- with the main thesis being, not all chemistry leads to better living. My personal opinion is that Africa is faced with many many problems primary of which are endemic internal corruption and international indifference. Until those problems are addressed the other issues are just that issues.

We just closed David. We've penty of tomatos but folks seem to be eating what they grow fer some country reason or another.

Yeah David I tried but them damned bees kept stinging my privates when I raided the honey pot so I gave it up. I am particularly proud of my friend Alice, she took somewhat refiend ideas and translated them into workable concepts and pulled together the resources needed to make it happen and is supportive of efforts closer to home. What a cool thing it would be to click on a map of your state and find the organic and sustainable farms, markets and outlets in your area. Oh wait Local Harvest has already done it :) using GPS, GIS and and Remote Sensing technology.

They did a wonderful job, it just goes to show that if you give the right people the right tools and a bit of freedom they can do a wonderful job :) I'm a window cleaner by trade and a student of small town-rural planning/public administration.

A bit off the topic but on the same subject, I took GIS last spring and I'm taking Remote Sensing now. GIS is basicly a map of an area of your chosing that you can add layers of data to. For instance you could take a basemap of Georgia and slide scale the colors to show a particular income bracket as a percentage of county population and then add in all the organic farmers, restaurants, and retail shops in the state, to gain an understanding of who is doing what where. An example can be found here: here: Remote sensing is the science of understanding satellite images. Scientists used this in the 60's to keep an eye on Russia's agriculture output. It can identify the crop being grown as well as the health of the crop. Today folks use it to locate oil fields and mineral deposits including gems and precious metals and just about everything else you might want a *big* picture of. HERE: is a link to a site compiled by a former NASA scientist. It's my textbook this semester and has some interesting information if yer interested in gem hunts, panning for gold or planting a new crop. It's a bit more complicated than GoogleMaps but then you get to actually define and manipulate the data to look for whatever it is yer looking for.

Stranger and stranger... What I find interesting is in the UK where gun ownership is tightly controlled people who harm others rely on knivings, beatings and firebombs to do the trick. The hate remains, only the methods changed.

I'm going to take them to the gunsmith and let him look at them. I'd rather pay the $ and have it done right then try to do it while I'm baking cookies. I did a bit of checking on the ammo and it's 20 yrs old. The guide sez its either tracer or ap, the cartridges are in excellent shape and the machining looks right on the money so in a few weeks I'll pop a few off in the woods and what happens. Thanks for advice I'll wear hearing protection.

I've got a small caliber rifle that I need to reblue. It's got a good bit of rust and some wear tho not enuf to matter but it needs to be reblued. Should I try it or have it done? how well have your blueing jobs done? Also I inherited a box of ammuntion from Romania, it's standard 7.62 but with a painted red stripe above the cartridge and another one on the primer and a filled in lead tip. I'm hoping its not radioactive.

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Love the pics!

The Aral Sea lies within the former Soviet Union. During that regime it was used to irrigate farmland to increase food production. During the past 50 yrs waters have receded to about 1/2 of their former size due to agricultural drawdown. Since the sea lies at the lowest elevation point it has also collected all the run off from those farms which were heavily dependant on chemical ferts and pesticides which eventually meant that the receding shoreline became a toxic repository of those chemicals. There are now reports of serious health problems in the region. Oh and some of these crops are being exported under one trade treaty or another.

Oh yeah I was wearing gloves at the time, either driving gloves, work gloves or those super heavy duty kennel gloves they don't make anymore that were like 3 layers thick and could prolly stop a .38. What ever happened to good leather products anyway?

I took risks when I was kid, thats probably not much of a surprise tho. I learned early on that if I got ahold of a dogs bottom jaw he would be neutralised. I needed to do that several times since. Thankfully I've never needed to break it.

I'm looking forward to spending the holidays with my kids and grandkid. By then the yard should be mowed (this would be the second time this year) and the porch painted. I was looking through some old recipes my mom saved for me, I'm not sure I'm willing to shoot my resident deer pals for a venison roast but the duck recipe sure look good. Prime Rib, Roast Duck and all the trimmings... Why I might even put up a tree this year!

I've *handled* rattlers deer possums and rabid dogs "mad dogs" and slightly pi$$ed off wild animals and slightly bent people They can all be managed sucessfully if you have a good corperate sponser if not you are on yer own