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John -- :D--> :D--> :D--> Monopoly board?????? Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.00, go straight to jail!

Groucho -- you were in (and out) the same time frame I was. What you said --- "The hippies of twi in the early 70's became the mean-spirited, legalistic, waybrains of the waycorps in the late 70's and early 80's. Half of em were trying to emulate veepee and the other half lcm...the end result was a homogenous blend of brainwashed storm troopers." ------ is too true :(--> :(--> vpw started it, and lcm "carried the banner". It got more leglistic as time went on, and suddenly it just wasn't fun anymore. Kind of like a dead end job --> Y'all REALLY smoked dope at twig?

Doze -- HA!!! :D--> :D--> now THAT is a good story!! perhaps we should also pray the dog remains motionless on the mtn. passes?! ;)-->

Raising my hand here. :(--> Ex-Catholic :(-->

Doze -- Moving from Indiana to California? YOU DO NEED PRAYER :D--> ;)--> :D--> ;)--> :D--> Seriously -- Good luck, will definitely keep you two "up" there in prayer for a smooth transition, and that all goes better than you hoped for. And that once you get there, it is all you hoped for. (I would rather pray for you, than help load the U-haul) Keep us informed. :)-->

Oakspear --- well put :)--> "I read the PFAL book cover to cover before ever attending a twig fellowship, but was not impressed; it was dry and somewhat boring. The class itself is what hooked me, and it's what's in that spoken presentation that we remember." Same with me. I was unimpressed till I actually saw vpw give a teaching at twi. After that, well----- the rest is history.

Quote from Trefor --- -------------------------------------------------- Guns can kill people as we too often tragically hear about. Whereas the vast bulk of people no doubt keep them and use them responsibly, and they should have every right to continue to do so (bet that surprised ya), there are situations and circumstances where they are not appropriate. -------------------------------------------------- Yes it DID surprise me!

Happy birthday Jardinero!! :)--> :)--> :)--> Now take some of that "dinero" out of the "jar", and go celebrate!! :D--> :D--> :D-->

Maybe after hearing all this, I will reconsider, and go after all. --> -->

From Zixar ------------------------------------- "The flap is that if Mass. allows gay marriage, then other states will have to accept the Massachusetts Marriage Certificate, right?" ------------------------------------------------- Here in Minnesota, an unqualified YES :(--> ================================================= and again from Zixar ---------------------------- "I have a Georgia concealed weapons license, but less than a third of the states recognize it under reciprocity agreements. What's different between the two? Honestly curious" ================================================== Minnesota will "recognize" your gay marriage, but not your gun. (no pun intended Trefor). To you and I, Zix, federal law should be upheld in ALL states. Yet if you walk into our mall, city hall, newspaper office, etc., you will be greeted with a plethora of signs stating "WE BAN GUNS ON THESE PREMISES". I see NO such signs against the homosexuals who flout the law, and throw their defiance against us in the most flagrant of ways, yet -- we have to take a back seat, and leave the "registered" gun in the car, if we want to place an ad in the local newspaper, yet a "married" set of homosexuals can walk in, thumbing their nose at the law. Minnesota now has a conceal-carry permit (with much protest ensuing as a result), and local business owners have taken it upon themselves to decide if they will, or will not allow guns on their premises --- despite the federal law in place. So the difference between the two, is that you and I have a right to defend ourselves IN ONLY SELECT LOCATIONS, but homosexuals (who do NOT have a right to make us accept that abberent lifestyle) are forcing that upon us in ALL places. And that is what they are looking to implement, by forcing federal law down our throats, yet rejecting federal law when it is adverse to their wishes, and the gay (I use that term loosely) crowd is not the only one looking to take away rights. So that was an honest question, and I gave an honest answer. The difference is that 2nd Ammendment rights are being ignored, and preferance is being given to others, who wish to take away liberty and decency from the rest of us who care about such things. Same sex marriage in Massachusetts is helping "grease the skids" on the path to ruin, conceal-and-carry does not. Perhaps I should have said that in the first place. Shoot Low. They are riding Shetlands.

Quote saying ------- "That's what my wife has also told me. She's been a Wiccan/Pagan/whatever for 15 years." __________________________________________________ Dan -- so she is still practicing, or did she get out too? -->

Groucho !! A H*** of a good question! :D--> I can't hang on to $30.00 for 1 day, much less all those years!!!!!!

OE -- no it is not my jewelry, and I don't mean to derail this thread, but I gotta know -- Were you ever a wow in Duluth Mn. ?? I forget the man's name, but he was wow here, and a hell-uv-a jewelsmith. He did all sorts of stuff for the locals, as well as twi hdqtrs. His job while wow was at the leading jewelry store in town. Was that you? -->

Ex10 -- thanks for the reply about Zig ;)--> ;)--> and so as to Not derail this thread --Kit says, ________________________________________________ "(As I understand vp did have a ministry of a teacher -- the problem came when he decided to sell that ministry, and the people who trusted him, for a "mess of pottage" so to speak. His ministry at one time was genuine.)" ________________________________________________ Kit, amen. :)--> couldn't agree more.

Rocky -- well hey then, look on the bright side! :)--> :)--> :)--> You have regained access to that Forum. :D-->

In the papers today, reviewers are not using the anti-semitic attack against it. Their new strategy for attack is "this movie is TOO violent" -->

WyteDuv -- you are not a dunce, or a moron!! :)--> ;)--> :)--> After all - you got out didn't you! :D--> :D--> :D-->

Ex10 --Zig Ziglar is still around??? Forgive my ignorance, but wasn't he, and W. Clement Stone, and Og somebody-or-other, the people who taught that to acheive, all you gotta do is BELIEVE? --> I didn't know Zig was still alive. For some reason I thought he was history (past, not present). Or was it a film presentation? Now I am really curious!

Mark says ------- "No, I figure we are going to be entering fully into the "post-Christian" era within the United States. Oh well. I may as well get over it." Post-Christian --- as in PC?!?!? Look how far "political correctness" has dragged us down. This will be even worse. Not to argue, but I pray you are wrong on this. But I also have a feeling the Ammendment will only postpone, not fix the problem. :(-->

WB - I guess something that graphic would make you think I plan to not see it, but hope all who do go, realize the significance of what was accomplished. And yes I am "Wimpy" when it comes to hardship --(I will gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today ---!) :D--> :D-->

Rocky --- Thank you for posting that review!! :)-->

Glad it was a good one!!! ;)--> ;)--> ;)-->

From Wacky ---------- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "I didn't feel the spirituality of it all, but that wasn't the purpose of the movie. I was sick to my stomache...still feel sick... ugh..." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kind of like "Athletes of the Spirit" ??

Does not pray with Malicious Intent! :)-->

Tom -- twi-1 I am familiar with. (I left in '85). Twi-2 was a new one to me when I first came here. Never knew there as a difference, until I started reading, I thought they just continued in the same old B.S. vein. Ex is correct, (I am thinking) twi-1 = vpw, and twi-2 = lcm. I first heard of the "fog" years here, and never knew pfal was "superceded" by "way of abundance, etc., etc., ad naseum, and that all came with lcm. Glad I go out when I did. One twi was enough for me!!