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I took the gold, and left Egypt. David

Easy for you to say Ole Tall One!!! BB HA! :D--> I used to say "Let's get small", reaching for the rolling machine, and the (cough) *fixings* -- but that was in another lifetime long ago. I durn near got busted for what went on with the use of that phrase. I don't do that no more (scuze the poor english here!), and I don't use that phrase anymore either. But that is another story entirely, and not on topic with the *about the way* forum. :)-->

Hmmm -- he wouldn't have heard of GreaseSpot, unless he was familiar with twi. If he was familiar enough with twi, he would of known how to SIT. And if he was familiar with twi at all, he would of had an entirely different set of *problems*. Seems like ya can't win for losing, eh? One step forward, two steps back. (or something like that). David

Our time on earth is short -- live large!!

Oak,thanks for that assessment of my post. I can always count on you to be honest. :)--> I do have a story to tell, if anyone care's to listen. I was in several church groups, before I landed in twi. One group was a little Weslyan church that I got introduced to by the Jesus Freak outfit I was hanging out with at the time, back in the early 70's. I'll never forget this --- there was one old man there, who confided to me and a few others of our Jesus Freak group, that he had always wanted to speak in tongues, but he: DID-NOT-HAVE-THE-GIFT!!! It was a very sad day for me to finally learn that it was not a gift, and not be able to relate this to him, since by then he had passed on. Here was a man who wanted to do something from the bible, yet felt incapable (for whatever reason). The moral of this story is --- there are folks that want to know, and the theological crap that is propounded by main stream denominations (these days) just isn't cutting the mustard, nor does it make sense. Folks are left wondering, in doubt, feeling *unworthy*, you name it. If I get in a biblical discussion with anyone, I let them have both barrels. That's cause I never know if it's like that older guy who always wanted to speak in tongues, but never did, since he thought it to be a gift, and he thought he was an unworthy recipient.

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These pics do the both of you two *better justice* than your avatars do. Congrats on what will be a golden road ahead -- now and forever, amen. :)--> David

I'd call the agent, but I need the phone number! :D-->

Oak -- Well -- I'll tell ya ------------ I believe in it whole-heartedly. I do it daily, and since I don't go to any sort of fellowship (these days), it is my one connection with the God I believe in (I respect your decision to not believe in Him), and because of that I don't have to put up with the doctrinal junk that most churches promote these days. Meebe most in twi faked it. I dunno -- could be. I never did, and as a matter of fact -- in exceller (sp?) sessions in the intermediate class, I was always called on to *do the duty* so the newbies could see how it was done. Now -- I'm not tooting my own horn here, but I will say that it is a very real and viable entity that (while transcending logic), is much more than just a spiritual placebo meant to placate those who have no real life on their own. Docvic did his best to put the boundaries, and blinders on it -- and certainly some bought into that arguement. The ones that did so were the *used car salesmen* who would try to sell you a lemon, and proclaim it to be a tasty strawberry instead. And fyi --- I NEVER HAVE TO GET IN THE SPIRIT to start SIT'ing. Believe it or not, it is second nature with me, and if ya wanna know the truth -- I rarely pray with my understanding any more -- it is always in tongues. I feel I am understood better that way. Now -- I know you are agnostic at best, and I am not belittling you for that by any means. I'm taking what I quoted from you with a grain of salt, cause I know you make exceptions to the ideas you espouse, as do I. :)--> Take care, just my pov, David

Don't forget to add: WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP IT'S BEEN :D-->

Wow -- a loaded question here. Individuals make up the organization because they believe what it espouses. The organization promotes because of individuals who are in it. Makes me want to ask "Which came first -- the chicken, or the egg"?

Hmmm --- let's try: "The hands of a good massage therapist are worth their weight in gold" There -- that's about as non-sexist as you can get! :D--> David

Some people have too much time on their hands, and should get a real job. -->

Shoot --- now I'm starting to remember that river in Ohio, the Cuyahoga. From all the crap in it that caught on fire, he could have claimed to walk on water, and see a burning bush at the same time!! :D-->

Axshoualy, that shood read: "Doze it relly mater? I likes to speel coyrectly az well ... but I doan tink any one here iz grayding."

Another one??? Now I am not feeling so bad about living in the *Tundra*, and dealing with occassional snow storms/blizzards, and 30 below.

I have a great respect for the *Holistic Health* field. Once was in a serious car accident, and massage did wonders for me, and I never made fun of the practice after that. It works. :)--> David

Which? The woman, or the man? ;)-->

Juan --- good link! Thanks. David

They returned your money??????? Get out of here!!! :D--> And not once, but twice??? (that establishes it!) I'm almost not believing this!! David (Too funny!!)

HA! Time for me to put my 2 cents worth in here. ;)--> Although I was raised catholic, once (many decades ago) while visiting my Grandma in S. Illinois, I wandered from the house, found myself in a little Pentecostal church a few blocks away, and answered the altar call when they gave it. Mine has been a fierce search. Going wherever I felt I needed to be. Hoping (always) that I was headed the correct direction. One of the *outfits* I ended up with (in the years following) was a group of Charismatic Catholics, and they were the ones who led me into speaking in tongues. With them it was all praise and worship --- no *practical* side to it in terms of intercession, etc. Regardless -- they taught me how to do it (previously I had thought it to be a gift), and they even used the analogy of the car battery that powers many things in the auto --- just like docvic did later, when I took pfal. The only thing I got from pfal about SIT was the fact that it is a viable prayer entity for us to use. I already knew how to do it, and the altar call long ago was my entrance to Paradise --- not pfal. David

For me --- a little of *all of the above*. The big thing I learned, can be seen on bumper stickers that say: No Jesus ------- No Peace Know Jesus --- Know Peace (btw --- great quote you gave there. Arrogance in a 3-piece-suit. Seems to fit.) :)--> David

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They already stopped two. Just two --- but I'm sure they would find a way. :(-->

Shhhhhhh!! (I knowwwwww!!) ;)--> Just between you and I, now I have to set my watch back by six hours after the first six are gone!!:D-->