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    SUDOKU

    SUDOKU Saw a link to this site, on another site -- and though the Sudoku site owners claim it isn't math (but rather logical thinking), my head was swimming with numbers both during and after the fact. I clicked on the *easy* game. Took me a while to solve it. Even their *easy puzzles* are hard (to me). If you try it, good luck! :)
  2. Jack's Mobil is two doors from my house. I gas up there (cause he tries to undercut everyone else in town by a penny or two per gallon), plus he is in *da hood*. Jack is charging $2.21 per gallon (today), but just 3 years ago, he was charging .98 cents per gallon. Time and again, I remind him of that -- and he conveniently finds another customer to wait on! :unsure: Oh well. What 'cha gonna do?? As Bob Hibbing once sang: *The Price's, They Are A Changing*
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    Hello All

    Belle -- this is the third time we've gotten it this season. Granted -- none is on the ground (yet), but the third snow of the season, none-the-less. The first one was the 2nd week of October. (sigh!!) :( David
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    Hello All

    Frank -- where from?? Are ya getting snow like we are here in Minney-soda today? :( :( :(
  5. dmiller

    I did it!

    :dance: Keep em coming!!! :D
  6. dmiller

    Texas Rules

    Definitions from another state: :D
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    Hello All

    Sudo -- did ya develop that *eye* by looking at folk's teeth? Sunny -- welcome to GreaseSpot Cafe. :) Chime in any time you want about whatever you want. Regardless of what you say: Some will agee; Some will disagree; And lively discussion about *who is right* will ensue! We may need your skills as a Respiratory Therapist, since some of these threads *knock the wind* out of a few folks here (myself included), and a quicker recovery would be nice! David
  8. How'd I miss this one??? Happy belated birthday Waterbuffalo!!!! David (Too many birthdays here in late October, early November!!)
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    Rated XXX

    Sure --- and a bird tells us this!! lovely .........
  10. dmiller

    Men's Room Art

    That lady with the tape measure is dreaming!! :D
  11. Jetc -- I still think some of pfal is right, but I also realize a lot of it is wrong. Back when I was in, some of us got to see videos of *extra* versions that showed the original sin as masturbation vs. homosexuality Gotta love how the *original sin* had to deal with sex. :o They were hung up on a hang up.
  12. Fog -- mist in the air, blinding and pervasive, kinda like God spitting in yer eye! Several folks took *blame* for docvic's death, when confronted by the POP. I didn't then, nor do I now. After all -- he wasn't immortal. Docvic was a man, plain and simple. All men die sooner or later, yet most don't have the *luxury* of a POP paper declaring their greatness, and how they were stolen from mankind. Because of POP docvic was made a martyr. This is my (humble) imho about it, cause when docvic passed on, some folks were convinced that they were the cause of it (or at least they said so). B (as in *B*) And S (as in *S*) Docvic died because he was human, and it ain't my fault, your fault, the bod's fault, or anyone's fault that he kicked the bucket sooner than the 70 years God promised to man. He brought it on himself.
  13. Hmmmmmm --- He lit the candle at both ends, and it burned fast.
  14. Hey there Jetc. :) About 5 or so months ago, someone here was wondering about something that got me curious as to whether or not Minney-soda even had a limb anymore. So I called hdqtrs in New Knoxville. Told em who I was, and what I wanted to know. I'm still on file down there, but no red flags must've come up, cause they were civil to me (maybe they do that to everyone, over the phone). They wouldn't answer me over the phone, but did say that they would pass along my questions to the area leader. I thought "yea -- right"! But they did, and about two weeks later I got a phone call from a woman with a syrupy sweet southern drawl (from Minneapolis no less) who is the wife of the area leader. By then I had lost interest, and to know that there were twi folk in Mpls. was enough for me. I never called back, cause I didn't care that much -- and it did take a couple of weeks for them to get hold of me by phone. Meebe red flags did come up after all! :D I got some pretty anemic literature in the mail too about how some class they were running here was a *great success*, even though the staff for the class outnumbered the new students. From the itinerary of the area leader (and wife) listed in the brochure, they were coming to an area near me. And so they did. They passed by my house (4 blocks away - according to the itinerary), and kept on going to the area of interest. No note on the door or anything, so I guess they thought I *snubbed* them. Folks like this don't need a web-site. They don't need the internet. They don't even take it upon themselves to physically go 4 blocks out of their way to say howdy (even by a post-it note) to someone who called their hdqtrs in a state far away, and had to wait for a response by phone. Shucks -- they can't even follow up on the physical, how can they handle cyber-space?? I guess the Word has prevailed. I guess that no new inquiries are valid ('specially from old-timers like me), and that only *new applicants* need apply, who don't know the drill. B*ll and Ren*ta Sag* -- next time yer in town, leave a note on my door. I promise to get back to you. :) (yes -- I have your phone number!) David
  15. The list would look something like this --- YOU CAN NOT SAY: *** **** **** **** **** ****** OR ************ (sometimes hyphenated)
  16. And (HA!) -- just thought of this --- I never did ask him if they had bathrooms in his church!! :D David
  17. Hey there Bill. Had to laugh when I thought of the comparision between the 75 mil complex, and the little country church. :) I used to work with a guy back in southern Indiana (solid baptist) who didn't believe that a church should even have a kitchen in it. To him it was a place of worship, and should be used for nothing else. He and I worked the 3rd shift at Otis Elevator, and had time to talk about a lot of things. He almost had me convinced about the *kitchen in the church* thing when I found out ----- He also did not believe that homes should have bathrooms! He had a fully functional (plumbing-heating-and-all) toilet in an outhouse outside of his house, but refused to install it in his house. Needless to say -- he lost me once and for all, when I found that out. :D I'm guessing there is a happy medium (or is it median??) between 75 mil and the little country church. But operated correctly, I'm thinking both can produce results and certainly twi has been at both ends of the spectrum. They've *been there and done that*, and this is reminding me of one of those Indiana Jone's movies (The Last Crusade?) where it comes time to chose from a variety of cups to find the the Holy Grail. Of all the cups proffered, the *villian* chooses the one elaborately encrusted with precious gems instead of the simple cups, and dies. The protector of the cups said "He chose poorly". I can't think of a better epitath for twi. They chose poorly David
  18. Just shows how how ignorant all of us were back then. Sometimes I wonder how it is that we all did not end up in jail!! :D
  19. Not really, Raf. When I was in my *witnessing days*, I did have to explain what I meant by certain words. Some of the stuff I came up with was absolutely unrecognizeable (as I/twi meant it) to the person I was talking to. David
  20. milieu control The organisation controls its people by group pressure or geographical isolation. 0 pts ) The system is open : there is no pressure to adhere, to stay in the group, or isolation from the rest of society. 1 pt ) There is some pressure in doing as the group says, but no physical coercion. 3 pts ) There is a lot of peer pressure to stay in the group and do as the group says. There may be some light physical coercion. 5 pts ) There is tremendous and constant pressure from other members to act and think like the group does. Deviating from the norm is seen as an abnormality which must be dealt with swiftly. The group is physically isolated. I gave them a 5. cult of confession The organisation gets people to confess their sins or evils, in order for them to be cleansed. These confessions can be used against them later. Some group leaders also confess in public in order to look more human and to put the organisation more to their level. 0 pts ) No aspect of confession is involved. There is nothing to be "purified" or "cleansed" of, there is no higher state to be attained. 1 pt ) Some leaders will share their experiences and past troubles with the group in order to enforce the idea that "anyone can do it". No superior state of being or purification is proposed. 3 pts ) Confessions from members can be used against them in order to get them back in the fold, or keep them there. Leaders will share their experiences also. A superior state of being or purification is proposed (such as "being saved" or "being rich"). 5 pts ) There is high confessional pressure, either to confess your sins regularily, or a constant bombardment of testimonies and confessions from leaders. An exhalted state of being is proposed (such as holiness, super-beingness or blatant godhood). I gave a 5 here too, thinking of the *public confessions* made by Don, Craig, and Howard back in 1986. The remnant left here in Minney-soda were into publically confessing *sins* at the time, as well sacred science The organisation's methods are perfect. Any fault lies with the person, not with the methods. Furthermore, testimonies and present successes demonstrate that the system works. One must have faith and go on. 0 pts ) There is open-mindedness and methods or doctrines are revised when necessary - no undue blame is placed on the person. No testimonies or success-bombing is used. 1 pt ) The system works : there are testimonies. People are confident in the success of the system because of them, despite lack of proof. 3 pts ) The system works : a large part of getting new members in relies on testimonies and demonstrations. Successful people are paraded and failures can be due to people not following the "system" or being too "critical". Hope and faith makes one more successful, therefore motivation is important. 5 pts ) The doctrine is presented as infallible, and any fault or bad happenings are strictly due to the people involved. Outrageous testimonies, constant reminder of other people's success. Members are pushed to continue so that problems will be soon resolved. Believing equals receiving. Nuff said. Another 5 points. loading of the language The organisation redefines words (especially emotionally-charged words) to suit its outlook in the world, and more importantly, the outlook it wants its members to have. The creation of new words or expressions also isolates the member from the outside world. 0 pts ) New words are created or redefined. 1 pt ) Some emotionally-charged words may be redefined to emphasize the outlook of the group. Some new words are created to aid comprehension of new or unusual concepts. 3 pts ) The group redefines and creates many words in order to isolate the members from "the others" (non-members) and to reorient his values as being those of the group. 5 pts ) A full-blown vocabulary replaces normal language and mentally entraps the member. It is difficult for the member to understand non-members after assimilating this vocabulary. The Highway hit the nail on the head. Another 5 points. doctrine over person The organisation asks its members to experience first before criticizing. These experiences shape a person's outlook and eventually the person acts like everyone else. His emotional well-being is dependant on being with the group. 0 pts ) Experience is not required to understand the group's doctrine or mechanisms. Emotional well-being is not dependant on being with the group (friendships may form, however). 1 pt ) "You can't really know unless you experience it". People without experience are told that their criticism is irrelevant. 3 pts ) Experience is part of what gives one status in the group. People who have experience fall into a pattern of thought or action. People without experience are told that their criticism is irrelevant. Members derive emotional benefits from being part of the group, which they would not get otherwise. 5 pts ) Knowledge is nothing - experience is everything. The more you accomplish in the group's standards, the more important you are. People without experience must be guided by any means possible higher up the hierarchy or must be tricked to stay as long as possible. The entire emotional well-being of the members is dependant on being in the group. If #5 were changed to Knowledge is gained by experience, I could agree more completely. In my time -- you had status by the color of your name tag. You had status if you had taken *X* amount of classes. You had status if you heard docvic teach a class live, instead of by tape, or video. The last sentence: "The entire emotional well-being of the members is dependant on being in the group" gives me reason to rate it another 5 points. Also count one point for each of the following characteristics that exist in the group : Salvation : Group proposes a superior state of beingness or salvation. Lovebombing : Group promotes displaying excess consideration or even affection towards a new recruit in order to give him a sense of belonging and keep him in the organisation. Cognitive dissonance : Contradictions are used in conditioning members to accept the group's doctrine or mechanisms. The act of accepting and rationalizing these contradictions is an important element of brainwashing. Charismatic leadership : Emphasis is placed on the leader or leaders. These leaders can issue commands or edicts obeyed without question. Worshipping and loyalty are paramount. Deception in recruiting : When one is involved in the group, lies and deceptions in the recruiting material are soon apparent. Exploitation : People work for virtually nothing, usually to the profit of the leaders. Separation from friends and family : People are invited to stop talking to friends or family who do not encourage their participation in the group. Non-critical thinking : Doubting questions about the mechanisms or doctrine of the group are deflected or rejected. Usually, one must experience or be a leader in order to "understand". Discrediting outside information : Any criticism from the outside is wrong. Only people on the inside really know what the doctrine or mechanisms are all about. Loss of independant judgment : The person must rely on other people, usually people above him in the hierarchy, before making any kind of decision, even personal decisions. Fear of leaving : Group promotes the idea that leaving the group is a very bad decision, which may make the member's future life hellish (in religious doctrines, literally hellish). Sleep deprivation : Group forces its members to work unusually long hours. Sleep deprivation can also be used to help brainwashing. I accept 10 of this last group, so my final score is now 35. David
  21. Act 2 -- your vintage hat out-classes anything we might post! :) David
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