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Steelers will probably take it --- but with moves like these: should they lose -- they could get a movie deal, and call it --- break-back *mountin* (or sumpthin)!

Wishing a Very Happy Birthday to both of you!

POP was HUGE. So many left then, that the Way Tree (flourishing) was reduced to a sapling struggling for nourishment. My IMHO. B)

HA!! If that's the worst you do here, you'll be more *stellar* than most here! :D :D :D David

Call in sick to your boss Sudo! (sick of work, that is) Oh --wait a minute -- you ARE the boss -- right?? :unsure:

well -- It's been 9 days since we were all given 5. Anyone seen it on e-bay yet??? (I know nothing about that site.) <_<

LooKout -- welcome to GreaseSpot. :) David

Here's one for you, Hap --- :D

1John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

Please open your --- (insert drink of choice here) --- And turn with me to the tape player. Fellowship is ready to start!

Mark --- I'm gonna go out on a limb here; And say ---isn't it ok to M & A all these folks, after you have confronted them? And they refuse to follow the Gospel? (For those who know which way I *lean* I am NOT singling out certain *categories* here.) What I AM ASKING --- is if one has truely confronted another with the Gospel (Such as the verses you provided, Mark), How can one be wrong in NOT following through, and marking, and avoiding those who refuse to listen?? I will grant you --- twi mangled this immensely. But don't you think it can be done correctly? Like Jesus did?? I think it can, though I am loathe to implement it, cause I constantly question my own motives. (yea -- color me insecure!!)

I find it amazing, that the *mother church* Catholicism won't allow their priests to marry, and relieve themselves of all this unneccesary CRAP that they are subjecting themselves to. But then again -- I left the Catholic church in the 1970's. They haven't changed for centuries. Who am I to expect them to do so in decades???

Check out Biblical Unitarian. Granted -- it is a CES site (ie -- offshoot of twi) But if you want to find things about the trinity, this is a good place to start. :)

Reading this post, and thinking things over --- I have to agree. It was more me than them, even though it was them that got me to that point in my life. I was the determining factor. :(

B)

FreeFromCults --- Well said! And welcome to Greasespot! (I'm thinking you'll fit in just fine!) :B) David

The eternal Lotus --- And the Malibu DANG!!! I'll go with the old -- fergit the *new evolving* stuff! :D :D

I personally don't believe in the Trinity, nor do I believe Jesus is God, nor do I believe in any *pre-existence* of Christ before He was physically born. And yes -- I was raised Catholic, but couldn't reconcile their teachings with the Bible. (sorry Mark!) Now -- with that being said -- I get along fine with those who believe the trinity, and believe Jesus is God, and believe He may have pre-existed, before He was physically born. Because of my stated belief (in the last paragraph); I can fellowship with any, and everyone from Apostolic Oneness, to Jehovah Witness, and all sects in between. To me -- the trinity is a big issue, for my own belief. But that does not mean I require that from others. Truth be told -- they aren't going to stand before me on Judgement Day to be either approved or not, nor will I stand before them. I used to think Jesus was God (ie -- trinity), but now I don't. Like Ex said -- I got *saved* when I believed in the trinity. (In a little Pentecostal church in southern Illinois for me). Some of what twi taught to me still holds some meaning, but I utterly reject their *mark and avoid* policy, when it pertains to someone of a different faith than I. Just my IMO --- as always. :) David

YMMV = your mileage may vary or -- your ideas may be different than mine. Something like that. :)

Heh heh heh!!! That there is the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. :) MUCH TOO SOPHISTICATED to allow humble banjer-pickers!! (I never saw a banjo picker in a suit like that --- unless he was standing trial for something more serious than playing out of tune!)

(in case ya missed it -- I thought it was funny too) But it isn't totally verifiable. Thus my Snopes post. And I apologize if my thoughts superceded your thoughts (which were the original thoughts that initiated this thread), and thusly played second fiddle to my thoughts (which were not your thoughts), but should have played second fiddle to your thoughts which were the initiating/original thoughts that determined the flow of this thread. In the immortal words of (I forget who now) --- PLEASE CHILL!! (but then again, that is just my thoughts superceding ove ----- Nemmermind!)

(actually -- I got a HUGE kick out of number 4 ---)

Damgumitalleneyhow --- I hate to promote Snopes, But sometimes ya gotta do What ya gotta do!!.. Kinda like holding forth the Word, In a Bar, and talking about the River of Life, When it is evident that, the *river of Ralph* is the Prevailing Word! Some things just gotta be said. :)