dmiller

Hey there Safari. :) CES stopped *endorsing* Momentus about 10 years ago. CES has changed their name to Spirit and Truth Fellowship (not something I agree with), because they are now a *full-blown fellowship ministry*. They have *evolved* (if you will), from info only to their present status. I don't think the name change was due to adverse exposure, but I could be mistaken about that. I do have them on tape here talking about the name change, and it seems to be because of their change as a ministry -- and not due to any negative exposure they may have incurred from the past. Just my IMO.

But --- I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT that you did that -- so I'm suspicious. All I have is your say-so!

Hey there CK. I'm thinking you should listen to some (or all) of those teachings you have of docvic. If you listened close, you wouldn't make statements like --- Ya can't be PARTIALLY pozzezzed -- docvic (praise-be-to-his-name) said that himself.When are you going to listen to your *teacher*? Shucks -- I'm no fan of the book of James, but it says there --- And while I'm at it -- Jesus (remember Him?? The guy that docvic says is *absent*) said --- Docvic did a good job of *serving himself*. I'll leave the conclusion to be drawn -- up to you. ;)

Karmic -- I'd be glad to buy you a coffee. We're sitting in the N0N-smoking section of the Cafe -- Yes? ;)

Roy -- HERE IS YOUR THREAD, from JWO. :)

I gave up giving it up. :(

Jonny -- sounds like --- Party time!!!

Fear of furniture??? :D (love those hardwood floors, though!) ;)

Allan --- cool it, please. Sarcasm never gets anyone anywhere. :) Mo -- TWI has always taught that there is no trinity. (TWI in caps and bold to keep this here, and not doctrinal.) So -- my question is -- why can't the Comforter be spirit born within man?? Why does it have to be a person? While I do not support TWI, I do support the idea that Jesus was a man. When He was baptized -- He received spirit upon Him -- just like the OT folks. He did not receive the gift of holy spirit as those on Pentecost did. It wasn't *AVAILABLE* at that time -- so He got just as good as the *men and women of God* got in the OT, with the exception that He got it without measure. It was *upon Him* -- not *within*. Believing Jesus to be a human being (like you and I), I have no problem with this. No -- there was no 3rd person of a trinity descending. The gift of holy spirit did come in the form of a dove. Later it came as tongues of fire. Neither of those two instances indicates a person, though it DOES indicate an entity. :)

Woops -- I forgot to add St. Urho. :)

Ebn -- and up here in Minney-soda -- St. Urho's day is bigger that St. Pat's day! St. Urho's day is the day before St. Pat's -- and everyone wears purple.

Ha!! Look at em, having fun, and holding wimpwillow branches!!

So has this fella lived there all this time?? Belle's got a point when she asks if you know what he is into today. If that was an indiscretion he did 20 years ago -- that's one thing. If it is something he is currently involved in -- that's another. And also -- when you say he *hosted* the event --- does that mean he organized the entire thing on his own, or was he approached by kkk members to *do the honors*? And (not knowing what your club is about), does he violate the principles you all hold in common? Everyone has a part of their past they are not proud of. And how about the two that sponsored him? How do they know him, and what do they say about him? And --- how easy is it to kick him out, if he's a *bad apple*?!?!?

This is the first I've ever heard of it. And I'm part Polish too!

Mo -- this is where you and I part ways (doctrinally speaking). THE ONLY *TRINITY* I BELIEVE IN IS GOD, IN CHRIST, IN ME. Now -- you can argue until the *cows come home*, but unless you can trot out a verse in the bible saying exactly what you just said -- I can't, and won't believe it. There IS NO THIRD PERSON of a trinity-Godhead. Wait a minute -- Hmmmmm. Question -- if I may?? How come all of the Epistles (and I don't consider them to be the EXCLUSIVE *mandate* for us in this day and time), only have *greetings* from God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ -- with NO mention of the Holy Spirit?? Eh?? holy spirit is a gift, God is Holy Spirit, and there is a difference between the GIVER, and the GIFT. If you don't see it that way --- fine. No problem here. But I see it different. I used to be a catholic, and believed in the trinity, but I found it to be so much garbage. I'm not holding your beliefs against you, And I hope you don't hold mine against me. Sure --- docvic taught all this -- and Lord knows where he got it from --- But with all his plagiarizing -- he got some things right --- (even a blind squirrel will occassionally find a nut!) ;)

Howard All3n posted here??? :unsure: Where????

(Hint -- Type in Loy Craig Martindale -- and see what you come up with). David

Try DOGPILE instead. Much more comprhensive! (plus -- when talking about lcm -- the name fits!) ;)

Sure -- let's ALL thank God for VPW who died from what he taught was a devil spirit. Cancer -- life living of it's own self -- devil spirit. And he had it. Wait a minute -- he taught the Word, he was forgiven for *iniquity*, but he wasn't delivered from the *big bad* devil spirit he taught about -- was he?? Where was the *law of believing*, when he needed it most?? And that begs the question -- if he was so righteous, and forgiven, and all that other *good stuff* -- how did that sucker cancer find a *home* in docvic, and stay there until the end?? Eh?? A) Docvic taught that cancer was caused by a devil spirit; B) Docvic had cancer; C) Possessed folks harbor devil spirits; Draw yer own conclusions, CK -- but when you do ---------- be sure to add up A+B=C, and see what you come up with. Docvic taught that himself. I guess that means --- He lived and died by what he preached.

Thank God for VPW??? Here - for your perusal, is his death certificate -- (in case you haven't had a chance to see it yet).

WhiteDove --- and here I thought you typed a nasty word in the title -- causing it to be changed to ALL RIGHT @#%&$#@@@

:) :)

Paw is Paw --- when he speaks, We listen. Some things, NEVER change. ;)

Am glad it works for you. :) Rok On!

Soft core porn leads to hard core porn.GEEZ ---------- This reminds me of a story I once posted about Dog Poop Brownies -- I forget where it was, but it is CERTAINLY APPLICABLE to this thread ---- Did the kids eat the brownies with the *dog poop* mixed in, regardless of how little?? You tell me, and then try and tell me how a *little* porn is good. You can't do it. Sorry -- It's bad -- through and through.