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my then "leadership" not once set their foot in my house. very, very interesting. Did they not "care".. even by way doctrine and mandates? You know. Come and see what kind of "representation" da *ministry* is promoting? there was ch*lar. nope, not once. Never came. And it was just a small branch. At most 5-7 twigs at any given moment.. then there was.. the o*d*ngs. Came to my house? NEVER. The *almighty* limb coordinator.. mr. he who was so holy as to never allow his bread and vegetables to ever meet, in one place.. NO... never. Never came.. but somehow, he was able to look in some kind of crystal ball, and see.. gawd forbid.. dust bunnies? yeah frank.. I think you are on the mark here. why look at a census of dust bunnies, when you have a whole plethora of blue forms to peruse.. so.. this son of a bitch.. was willing to sacrifice my family.. to the god of abundance.. so it seems. I wonder how he is doing lately. and if it makes any difference here friend.. I'm glad you survived. Really..

so many assumptions.. a depressed person has a "dirty" house? so is the converse true? ah.. that's how you "smoke out" "depressed" people. Check the top of their refrigerator.. maybe that's why "leaders" needed so much help.. so many hours of volunteered time. Cleaning out the dust bunnies.. taking care of their kids, etc. etc.. now it all makes sense.

True. I was just being a little cruel here.. but if I were *leadership* in twi, I'd make a note of this.

Thinking about it.. what kind of "counsellor" would suggest to a victim of sexual assault- to submit to it? this character was one of vic's pride and joy.. This isn't an anger issue with me. And it isn't for me to forgive the guy.. or others like him.. but its more a matter of trust. Who in their right mind, would go to ex-way splinter group "leadership" for counselling? in the eighties, they were awful. More than once they took confidential information and sent it up the tree.. I guess "lockbox" doesn't count, among a select few.. but don't the laws of confidentiality apply to "ministers" as well as psychiatrists, psychologists.. etc? That would make an interesting science experiment if I were still in the organization. See what happens.. Tell your branch or area "coordinator" that you're homo, or a drug addict.. Just lie about it. And when they present reasons why you no longer are affiliated with da way to the group. Even a mere "he has some problems. He's off working on them.." press charges.

Yep.. I suppose I could be as obnoxious as anyone else in da ministry as well at times.. the kind of "counselling" sessions that I could easily hear through two solid wood doors. The lady has a *little* issue. "The scumbag won't keep his hands off of me.." limb leader: (that's what they were called then) HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO GO OVER THIS.. JUST GET OVER IT.. GO GET LAID.. this character was brought up directly under vic's tutelage. 2nd corps, I think.. young, very very young. Supposedly "delivered" from a heroin habit at da hand of da master.. I doubt it. Then there was the 6th corps "lady" here. Screamed at one individual that he was possessed, because he would not do exactly as she said.. turned out she was wrong. Both in the suggestion, and estimation of the counsellee.. then there was.. I could keep going on. But where do they get this.. "if you will do EXACTLY as I say we can guarantee resolution.." now a leading question can be effective. I went to a psychologist.. I had a few questions about a few things.. but in the interview: "when was the first time you consumed alcohol." I mean, that's a pretty good assumption. And the question generally would get a more honest response than "did you ever take alcohol. If so, when?" Even if you don't have a lot of real problems.. I think it would be a very profitable investment just to go to one of the professionals just to see what it is they actually DO..

"so where did you MISS it?" "what are you not telling me?" or the worst I remember hearing.. "we KNOW something is wrong with you. You need to come clean..tell us what it is.." is that what they teach the corps to be "competent" to counsel? "where did you miss it?" It assumes facts not in evidence, to begin with. Too many assumptions: that you "missed it", whatever that meant. And its pretty vague- exactly WHAT was it that I was supposed to have "missed"? Another assumption. If one "missed it" (whatever THAT was) they could figure out exactly where it was.. "What are you not telling me?" Again, so many assumptions. That the person seeking advice and possibly deliverance is simply lying, concealing the "evidence" from the "minister(?)".. my question today in return would be: "and WHERE dd YOU get your degree in psychology.."

God bless you friend.. Okay. The squirrel heads for another beer. That might not exactly be a good idea here.. Depends on what "job" needs dispatched.

If you don't mind me asking.. who is Clarity? must be somebody cool.. there is somebody here cool enough.. who I would edit for..

I didn't see any pictures..

I keep getting Scientology advertisements at the bottom of the page.. whoo hoo. we are all one, we are all the light.. friggin idjits. I won't pay them a single frigging penny for this wonderful revelation..

I really don't know what I am.. too many labels. what am I.. maybe it depends on something bigger than feeble *me*..

:) If I might add.. what fundamentally is wrong with wiccan? I'm too small to judge..

"St" vic was more than into sexual "majik".. really weird. take it as you will.. I ask the animals that I consume for sustenance, for forgiveness.. :) really weird. take it as you will.. I ask the animals that I consume for sustenance, for forgiveness.. :)

yes. But in practical terms, no harm never really happened.. it's really impossible.. so what is the choice.. do the least harm one can do. In a sense, we are all "screwed"..

maybe the question should be.. I am an eternal (whatever fate you assign it.. what are you? who, what are you.. don't ask the question lightly..

I dunno. ascribing to "we* does not exactly kill you..

Crowley was less harmful.. at least he considered the consequences.. not that it did much good. But he considered.. vs.. "I have the righteousness of Christ, of Gawd Almighty. I can merely do as *I* will.. we're all the same, eh? why not for one honest moment.. act like it..

Do whatever you want, as long as your intentions are good. Where have I heard that before..

then, he was by his own words, a fool.

forgiveness is a holy place.. How does one deal with this.. there have been times in my life.. I wish I could just.. well, I did it. Just grab onto the frigging road worn scammer long enough to GIVE them exactly what it was they were desperately trying to scam me out of.. maybe in some ways I am the same..

Wierwille was a dick. And a very small one, at that. "here am I, serve me." I hope his descendants don't relish in the same opinion.. "wish" would be a nice thought.. some have expressed sentiments to me otherwise..

Well, I'm back. I fought the bears, wild animals and other unsavory elements to acquire da beer. Any of you with a last name starting with "W". I'd stand aside.. or wear a raincoat..

I'm going for another beer. Be right back. B double E double R U N, beer run..

well.. what can I say. another beer, and.. drunk squirrels will urinate on your "heritage".. sorry I'm so bad..

for that matter.. why should anyone else?