Ham

if there is anything you could say here, without recrimination (or incrimination).. what would it be.. well. technically, without incriminating yourself.. "I was a blowhard.. a schmuck.. deceived.. a stooge.. a witting or unwitting enabler of ungodliness.. " I would claim all of the above.. what's really wrong with the end of the world?

NOT sharing a common "faith" can be a very, very, good thing..

You must have blindly tripped over yourself during a few posts. Maybe that's it..

didn't have the right face on the dead president's position. best I can figure..

I have more underhanded slurs that would more than accurately describe them. but no. No, I won't say.. I'm going for 12,000. fat chance..

better stuff their pockets with ten of my *vicster* bucks so they don't get busted for vagarancy.. Now, you'll have to bring them all back you know. Spend any of them.. and its unbelief and removal from da program..

absolutely accepted at *practically* any offshoot.

here is some "currency" for them to spend. "Martha.. hurry.. get the printing presses moving fer gawd's sake.." http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/gallery/image/1214-the-real-dollars/

I wonder what "revs" do when offshoots hand them the pink slip..

vp said.. vp said. vp said what? What I don't understand is how you can't see he lived a LIFE of dissonance. "preach da word" on one hand, "screw the sheep" on the other. "humble" and "unassuming" in public on one hand.. and in more private settings, a tyrant, and one who thrived on praise and attention on the other.. a "founder" and "researcher" as far a persona on one side.. but a thief and plagiarist and worse on the other. "nothing but da word" on one hand, then a hater of the Word on the other (biblically justifying alcoholism, adultery, rape, extreme opulence and the like..) "vp said". Is THAT your "soapboax"? The words of vic are holy or something? when two "duties" are clear. Do I take advantage of my position, and mercilessly screw or worse those "under my charge", or not.. isn't that a plain enough "duty"?

If truth does not evolve or grow.. its dead, isn't it? but that's not what you are saying, or is it?

hah. The offshoot here was trying a few years to write a mission statement. Well.. what is it that makes us DIFFERENT.. not much..

How do you know that? He expected and demanded respect, and money from people.. wasn't he a "welfare" mog? entitled? and his offspring as well?

:) yep. "my counterfeit is better than yours.."

I dunno. Can't a mature mind deal with conflicting ideas, without figuratively going off the deep end? Why is it so urgent, and IMPORTANT.. that everything one perceives.. fits into finely defined and crafted cabinets.. its easier to admit that everything one believes is just plain wrong.. well. I think it WILL happen. If not now, eventually.. If you believe in some kind of judgment.. one look into the Creator's eye.. and everything you thought will be shown to be false.. and when it all burns away, it does not really hurt..

and if I can add. Don't start up the presses and try to pass too many twi "dollars"..

In the "real world".. you get caught, or just happen to be a patsy, circulating counterfeit bills.. at the very minimum, you LOSE. Last I understood, there is no special insurance issued to protect one from being subjected to this kind of fraud..

what does one do when one gets "stuck" with counterfeit money. If it were actual counterfeit American dollar bills.. what do you do? how many trips to the bank with notes that have identical serial numbers, before they think it just might be YOU.. who printed them? I can hear the excuses. They look the same.. They worked for me.. I've bought groceries with them, for YEARS.. it doesn't make any difference who printed them. After all, it's money(?). Its the "message" that really counts.. they all say "in God we trust", don't they? why is it, just about the only people who accept these counterfeit bills.. are those in offshoots? it's.. "bills(counterfeit) of gawd.. printed, more accurately than those of the first century.."

maybe what I'm trying to say is: pfal, foundational, intermediate, advanced. *most* of the books published.. were COUNTERFIET. Like counterfiet money. A cheap, slightly polished COPY. It was passed off like the real thing, and you traded for it. counterfieters don't cite their sources. In small letters.. "copyright of concept and images owned by the u.s. government.." so from what I've read so far, your "soapbox". Is it your contention, that you should be allowed to spend counterfiet *money* at any place of your choosing? do you know what happens when you try to deposit a counterfiet $20.00 bill at the bank? So is your "soapbox" comprised basically of the concept that *we* (people here other than yourself) should accept counterfiet "currency"?

Why do you even CARE what da vicster had to say? honestly. If in middle of the first session of pfal, he stated that "the earth is not flat, it is a (slightly) oblate spheroid.." I would have to document it with a different source before I'd believe it..

I hope I can claim the same.. I was "lucky" enough to see everything dissolved, once.. where do we go from here.. am I headed toward the eternal ash heap? :) maybe just towards another assignment..

It's probably asking far too much. They probably don't even remember half of it..

I dunno.. yes, he was 54 then..

does anyone know who wrote this little "review"? just curious.. so the slimeball made mention in a prominent publication.. how much relevance, in the cosmic scheme of things.. does that demand.. a corrupt, down on his luck "preacher".. makes good? I'd like to interview the reporter, whoever it was.. now..