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"some of us" remember where we came from. Or have a pretty good illusion, or delusion.. the last thing I remember, before the big cosmic flush down the hole.. there were two or three other entities I had to make some kind of agreement with to have the privilege of the flush. "very likely you will not remember this conversation.." I dunno. Could I have made it up? The impression was more bizarre than anything I'd yet seen on T.V.. hippies.. lsd.. halloween candy. yep.. that COULD explain it..

It was a pretty vivid impression. Maybe hippies laced my halloween candy with lsd.. Who knows.. as far as the batteries are concerned.. I think no batteries included was part of the agreement to enter this existence. we have those, who claim to have the batteries. I would like to see one honest report of where the "battery poser" has done something really useful.. other than to try to desperately attract attention and admiration to itself.. generally. I know, perhaps there are a couple specific cases..

afterlife, afterlife.. or is it beforelife.. "where ARE you from.." "I suppose the best way to find out where you come from is to find out where you' re going, and then work backwards". anybody who knows the source of this off the top of their head wins the booby prize.. I really think that this existence is some kind of summer camp.. a short, sweet (and for some of us not so sweet) break from eternity.. the portal I passed through towards this place, it was like death.. that is an impression I had when I was very young.

blind is better, isn't it?

This character, is so cool.. The last time I met him.. I said something like.. well. Weird. The first living soul he helped deliver, was one of my offspring.. and the last one, was his last, at whatever organization, that it was..

so damned weird.. yes. He was the doctor who gave me the scissors.. to cut the umbilical cord, attaching my first child. then he did it again.. for the second. sorry, I am overwhelmed here..

This doctor is cool. He literally was the first, and last birth doctor, to my first, and last offspring.. weird, I know.. How many coincidences does one want in life.. christ.. where do we go from here..

Shellon. You came to twig once here.. doesn't that look like him?

Ha! It appears to have been a Guinness.. Ha! It appears to have been a Guinness..

but was there a Beer, attached to the melon?

what I find interesting. Looking at his internet site. He really is a dead ringer for k*vin g*igou..

Shellon.. this is a debriefing. It's not that big a deal though. anyway. We get our final chance to say why, or what it was that caused us to follow a madman..

fasting glucose levels are normally between 95 and 110. Red wine consumption, does not affect any blood glucose readings, significantly.. beer, on the other hand. can produce a few "spikes"..

I was diagnosed with type II diabetes about 5 years ago. that was the rating I got today. The doc says.. you are on a very low level of this.. do you want to get the A1C test? Reasonable request I think. Sure.. go ahead.. My weight is about 192. Last year it was 205. The only indulgence in my lifestyle.. sometimes I consume too much red wine.. and often, it is during the times I post here. I exercise aerobically, normally five days a week.. I think that is the most important issue. so I'm on the lowest dose of metformin.. probably won't need it next year..

when I read your post. All I saw was was "it's part of the first beer." but that would explain it. You know.. the motivation, for a cat, to push a watermelon out of the lake..

a cat? Pushing a watermelon out of a lake? maybe it NEEDED to.

the odds are pretty astronomical. I mean.. only 2 per state.. Socksie. This is The Debriefing. what makes you think you are even really still alive at the moment, to begin with? there are always debriefings.. after every major move, you know..

The end of the "impression" involves hayes hanging up the phone, and not picking up again.. but christ.. what WOULD have happened, with a senator in the victoid's pocket? vewy, vewy, interesting. Did he really think his almighty organization could hatch a U.S. Senator?

Heh.. God bless you, friend socksie.. well, I really mean it. personally, if he ended up with a good life, and didn't manage to damage too many people along the way, more power to him.. without his little requested posting for Paw to put up.. I probably wouldn't have given any more regarding him a second thought. Every once in a while, somebody from distant way past seems to surface, one place or another.. Hayes had a "funny" departure. You know, running for senate one moment.. the next moment, it was almost like he was never there.. I can almost hear in my head the last conversation. Call it some kind of psychic impression, an educated guess, or whatever. The "impression" was there over twenty years ago.. but it sounds like the vicster saying g-dammit over and over.. *I almost had a SENATOR in my back pocket.. g-dammit.. * etc. etc.. it would be nice to have confirmation, one way or another.. I still have the little red book I got in his "blessings of liberty" seminar. "Our Republic". I still correct people who call this a democracy.. "no, it's a REPRESENTATIVE form of government. or is SUPPPOSED to be.." "and I WASTED hundreds of thousands of dollars, loads of *my* believers time and support.." I really think he kicked hayes rear end over this.. it's just an impression. Call it what you will.. I could be entirely wrong..

Maybe I'm just trying to get it as well. He's involved in a non-profit "religious" organization, that backs him. He makes a break from the "liberal" republican party, and makes an independent run for senate.. when he loses the race, pitifully, at that.. his involvement with the group ends "abruptly". By his admission, practically the second he lost the election.. too many unanswered questions here. Too bad he won't come by to post.. I only have a few questions. 1. The abrupt departure, was it on your terms, or on "theirs"? Was the victoid calm and understanding about your defeat? Or were you exposed to what could be described as "not his good side"? What was the last communication with hq like? Well.. this is all one question. Just needs a few details.. I'm sure you remember them, like they happened yesterday.. 2. Did you previously buy into the victoid's wild conspiracy theories bought from the press of liberty lobby? Or currently?

and.. who were the "several others"? only one I knew about was Gahagan..

Plus carefully worded. Whose "members" supported my campaign. There were only three "members" at the time wern't there? You know.. the characters who ran the organization? Three characters.. running a religious organization, supporting a political candidate, directly through the organization.. just might say more than he meant to say.. or knew he was saying.. doesn't the IRS frown on this kind of activity for a non-profit outfit?

So, are you saying that da way's associate in thelogy, is basically useless? Well, that is the whole point I think here.. outside of a few offshoots, it really isn't worth the paper it is printed on. Except for evidence that one was "there".. the sad thing is that some of you worked harder for that little piece of paper, far more than da victoid worked for his "doctorate".. a degree mill worked for him, I guess that will suffice for you..

I remember da victoids comments about hayes.. "such a *fine* believer.. he'd follow me and go in da corps.."

I wonder if his "involvement" with da ministry ended with a bang.. only he could tell his own story here, but I'll bet the victoid was not impressed with such a dismal showing at the polls.. I wonder how the parting "conversation" went..