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I mean.. the more I consider this character, if he was "saved" and all.. I'm starting to get even less of an opinion regarding the value of redemption.. I think that's it. They have staked.. everything. Pretty heavy gamble if you ask me..

Da vicster's claim of eternal salvation and all. You know, incorruptible seed.. in his terms. going to heaven, and all hell can't stop one from going.. can't sin out the holy seed, etc. Saved, purely by grace. Works need not to apply (or interfere). What if he was just plain WRONG? I mean. This doctrine was promulgated by one who for lack of better words.. if it's all wrong, by the conduct of his life, he doesn't stand a snowball in hell's chance before St. Peter.. so we have an egotistical, self-serving, abrasive, alcoholic who drugged and raped women one one hand, and on his better days only seduced them.. along with the plagiarism, outright lying and fabrication, and PRETENDING to be a "man of gawd".. yep, he's "saved" by the wave of a magic wand. Hallelujah.. It was supposed to be a "research ministry". Just seems so many of the "results" weighed in on his favor..

I just wonder. If there is no hierarchy and such, how does he deal with individuals or groups differing in opinion from him? i.e.. the trinity, speaking in tongues, the state of the supposed dead, etc?

You only missed a few details here. "VP womanized, raped, drugged, stole, plagiarized, was an arrogant, abrasive self-serving raging alcoholic sob who pretended to be an apostle or prophet, and had delusions of Godhood. Therefore Christ isn't coming back." Is that what you are trying to say?

I wonder if un-mucking the vicster's pond was engineered to be a "likeable event" as well.. but anyway.. the Illusion of leadership seemed to exist on so many levels.. how many *leadership* blew the whistle on the sexcapades, rape, adultery.. unclean behavior and the like, before they HAD TO or were forced to? just seems to me, a leader's prime duty would be to protect those around him/her/it. maybe they had the illusion, that an ORGANIZATION held more importance than the people it encompassed..

I don't know about Judas. But he used Bullinger's material for about everything else.. 4 crucified, the day J.C. died, 3 days, 3 nights.. 2 entries, etc. etc. Why? I think mainly because he could regurgitate a Scholar's works, it gave him the APPEARANCE of a scholar. That's vicster's version of "research" I guess.. "our *research* is soooo exciting.." no. research is not. research is (or can be) BORING. It's supposed to be slow, meticulous, no jumping to conclusions or skipping steps.. Discovery, on the other hand can be rapid. like the vicster "discovering" the works of Bullinger, Kenyon, Lamsa, Leonard, Stiles, etc.. Discovery really does not necessarily require a lot of self-discipline..

Now if I could add another strange belief.. if this were purgatory, or hell. Why would one wager everything one had to wager to participate? heaven is too easy..

what do you want to bet.. if this priest is worth half his salt.. maybe it depends on whether this priest really is a priest.. some of them have learned to wear their skin well.. others, well.. maybe they are just neophytes..

even it were twenty years ago.. one should listen to the White Album on the downside of an LSD trip.. It kind of sticks with you..

How can it be like the poet says "all is not lost"?? What the hell are you talking about?? well.. maybe it is, maybe it isn't..

God Bless you dear Friend, and happy Birthday.. Happy Birthday to you..

It's been a long, long, long, time..

Sexy Sadie, what have you done.. Just a smile, would lighten everything.. sorry, I really shouldn't listen to this stuff..

Not so bad. There are alternatives.. like the guy who "witnessed" da greatness of the *word* to me.. he could fornicate like.. I really can't describe it.. a few pointed questions.. and what do i get. Don't YOU DARE TOUCH *MY* Righteousness.. hiss. kinda looked like Linda Blair in the appropriate scene..

Sin Consciousness.. Sinner.. am I going to hell.. probably. I've followed the doctrines of false apostles and prophets during my brief stay in da way.. now it's tenets of spiritualism.. I swerve towards a belief in reincarnation. I remember at least three past lives.. it's going to take a less than absent Christ to save me.. Sin Consciousness? I live and regret every last piece of s*it that I am. Hell would be what.. a chance to live through the same conditions again.. but maybe that is not so bad.

New Years Eve hams break out their old keys, no computers, no fancy microprocessor based bugs, minimal technology, and send Morse Code messages to each other, with old keys. Keys are simple switches. I'll get on the air sometime late tomorrow morning..

So an argument came up at one of the local offshoots. Maybe it could be considered a delicate point regarding biblical interpretation.. or something. when gawd almighty created herr vicster, did he create him with, or without a navel? Great Dissention followed this troubling question.. One camp cried that he didn't need a navel, being Divinely Created and all.. the other camp claimed that *He* would need human credentials, i.e. a navel, proving human birthright.. and claims of Divine Authority over other subservient beliefs.. The third camp, woke up, and smelled the Drambuie..

I think about the only time da vicster wasn't greatly exaggerating or outright lying was when his lips weren't moving..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Barth He died December 10, 1968. When was da class filmed? late 1967? Kinda interesting that da vicster made this claim when this character was not around for much questioning.. another thought.. didn't he pronounce Barth's name with a "th" at the end? Barth's name was pronounced "Bart". You'd think with a meeting with such a "great man" da vicster could have at least got it together enough to pronounce his name right..

reminds me of a story.. they had a monument singing the praises of some guy who discovered warp drive.. and all he was, was a drunken lecher who wanted to bleed enough money off of the project to retire comfortably in a tropical climate, with loads of naked women.. Does this last post fulfill your request?

Looks like a strange school.. no bachelor's degree programs? No core curriculum, like english reading or composition, mathematics, etc.

I didnt say they could perform the music WELL.

I thought it was funny. good Seed played a few Chicago tunes..

The Egotistical little Bastard has my phone number. It was delivered.. call if you wish.. well, at least I know that it was delivered.. In case your subservient morons or offspring (why bring them into this?) din't get it.. it is.. 989 859 0364.

Yeah. What a party.. they threw the then egotistical little limb leader fully clothed into the pool. Maybe somebody else here remembers.. It happened in podunk WVA..