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Maybe they don't want you to feel sorry for them..

Maybe a poll may be in order... how many have been issued their invitation on a silver platter to come back, to anything? I mean anything. Even a lunch appointment with some from the holiest better than it was now ole group, or the offers given just to the two most likely candidates to accept their fine offer? Unwillingness to accept an offer does not preclude the offer, or an apology, for that matter. I have heard nothing here. Zip. Lets see.. its been say, about ten years. Not holding my breath.

George, some on my list were not REAL widespread- I think some were usually something they sprung on somebody that they had already determined that they wanted to get rid of. "so and so has proven to have a problem with humility and obedience. He/she refuses to quit his job and find more suitable employment so as to be available at all times for da household.." This may sound ridiculous, but not far off from some of the explanations I have heard why somebody was not welcome anymore.

"Attitude inspectors" heh heh. I used to read those too. They decided to publish all of the old FFFB comics in a book form. Can be found on da web.. Boy, I think that's correct. A lot of the corpses sent here were kind of like that. But usually it wasn't attitude they looked at first.. first came the mouth inspection. Candidates had to be not only able to be "happy", but have a happy smile as well..

Some people around here got thrown out because, they were just, really NICE. Goodhearted. I am only somewhat nice. Took them a little longer to notice me.

Where I used to live, the hippies would smoke pot while congregated on the courthouse lawn. Ocassionally, one would throw a bottle of dishsoap in the fountain. "wow.... cooool".

Exie, did he start foaming, at both ends?

Steve, I don't think they wait that long. Any look in your eye that some lights are going off, and you're done.

Some of Manson's "recruits" got pulled in with the best sex they ever had in their lives. I bet that they still think that was some of the best days they had. Boy, did they pay though.

Scream, yell and confront with a vengeance. They will ALWAYS have a place in da organization for you- unless the gods (lawyers) say otherwise.

I remember da good old days too. There were just not very many of them.

No.

I don't understand why people think that "they" would even WANT you back. "We will ALLOW you back if you do this, and then that, then jump through this hoop, etc. etc." That is the best "invitation" I have heard them give ANYBODY here. "If you do enough grovelling, you MAY get to the level that you MAY be clean enough that we could even accept your money". Let see.. you have to BEG to return to bondage, on their conditions? And you're still the scum of the earth. Magnify the worst racial discrimination that you or anyone you know may have endured by a factor of ten or so. That's what your'e up against. Drink in their fountains? No likely to happen. I don't think people get it.

"You've been on the internet!!!!!" "Nooooooo.."

How about.. go on vacation- spend time with family on thanksgiving. Casually ask if Donnie and Rosie are still "an item".

I have a friend that gave his cat a slice of okra. The cat goes bonkers over raw hamburger. After four or five pieces of hamburger, he slipped her the okra. The cat coughed and spit, and would not have anything to do with him for about a day and a half after that.

Oh, that's all.. heh heh

I thought this one deserved a place by itself. Here are a few reasons that apparently are insufficient grounds for dismissal, even in executive positions. 1. Have adultery, with as many women as you can garner. 2. Force female EMPLOYEES to undergo the same. 3. Falsely accuse God's people of some of the worst crimes, harming some irrepairably, with no evidence whatsoever. 4. Waste MILLIONS of the organizations dollars on half-baked, obviously flawed schemes and investments. 5. Fire all of the experts, the ones that really bear the brunt of the organizations real day to day business. 6. Follow orders. Blindly. 7. Publically accuse Jesus of being a devil spirit. Wowser.. 8. Attribute others works to your own efforts. Call it "new light". Forget that it has been documented and around for over a hundered years.. I know there is a lot more..

I agree Belle. Enough documentation would help. But I can almost hear the stupid back pedalling and denial- "oh, well, our followers just get a little excited".. "Never really said it, never recommended it, never.." on and on. Makes me wonder- what then do they actually DO? "Well, that's a little more complicated.."

Just wonder. What does it take anymore to get tossed out on your rear end? With the mass exodus, you would think they would be lowering their "standards" of who can or who cannot attend their precious "events". Just a couple of years ago, here are some of the reasons: 1. Get a loan. Any kind of loan, for house, car, education, etc. May have not been universal, but loads of people were harrassed and put out because of this. 2. Have a real problem. Especially mental or emotional. Sure quick ticket to the curb. 3. Disagree with the MOG/WOG. Doesn't make any difference if you are right or wrong. 4. Offer a few real useful suggestions, like maybe we oughta take advantage of using the internet. Score one for Igotout. 5. Work at a job that schedules you for work when you should be at "fellowship". It has happened.. 6. Get sick during a meeting, and have to get up during said meeting. I personally know of one account that the person was told to leave and not come back because of it. 7. Be under ANY suspicion of being a homosexual. False suspicion, or otherwise. Don't have a dog, and don't like to go hunting or fishing? You're a prime candidate. 8. Refuse to discuss your finances with your beloved "coordinator". I could think of lots more. Won't spoil all of the fun.. personally, I and my beloved coordinator came at an impasse when I would not "come clean" with whatever evil I was supposed to be, or have done. At that point, I finally realized that he was "nuts". If I would have told him anything at that point, he would have believed it.. shoulda told him something that would have scared the pants off of him.. but I'm too nice of a guy I guess. So, from your experience, what did it take to get tossed out? Does anybody know what it is like now? I wouldn't be suprised to find it much different.

Shaz, wouldn't take a lot I would think. Just get up during a meeting, look REAL excited and jump around saying "glory, hallelujah" or something like that. I think you'd last the most of thirty seconds..

I ran over a seagull once- no, it was dead already. But the squishing sound- disgusting.

But the contrast.. remember the poor guy that allegedly did not check the weather before taking ole craigers for a ride? Oh well. I guess Craigers couldn't believe for his own rear end, no less find it on a clear day either. Maybe that's it! "we check the weather before outside events now".

I dunno. I've met a few mindless individuals through the years.

"We only have half of the friggin idiots that we had before". Garsh, it can't get better than that..