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"works EVERY time" heh heh.

Reading a lot of these posts remind me of an old Beverly Hillbillys episode- old granny had some kind of "miracle" cold cure. Made with molasses, sulphur, etc. etc.. the docs were really interested until Jed said something like, "sure a miracle cure. Why, you take this stuff, and within about six weeks you'll feel like a spring chicken".

"may the farce be with ya". heh heh..

Frigging bastards. I don't see how people believe it- "leave or disobey, and you'll die or worse".. Well, I believed it, once. Must be something about human nature- trusting people like "that". And they're STILL pulling the same kind of strings. Same stuff. No wonder they don't want anybody with a different "story" to contaminate their precious website. No debate allowed, of ANY kind. Now it is not only not "allowed", it is IMPOSSIBLE.

Seems to me that the BOD and minions are VERY skilled at "crisis intervention". Unfortunately (for them) they don't find very many real crisises to perform their "magic". Can't find one? Manufacture one. Somehow they have to be able to justify their lavish lifestyle.. I have no more respect for them than local hoodlums running from door to door selling "protection". "Walk away and yer dead", "their kid died because they left US", are all wonderful and fine.. but the real trick is to manufacture a "miraculous" rescue of one form or another. And MOST are naive or gullible enough to believe it. Personally, I think the 1976 takeover conspiracy story was conceived out of the highest form of .... people could find. I know computers, and at least a little about electronics. Most people with less knowledge than I did not seem to be very afraid. But here! Here we have a crisis! After all, this one was indeed in the news.. and who claims credit of "divine deliverence"? "Things COULDA been a lot worse, if we did not have OUR people prepared". And they bought it. "I'm soooooo thankful to have such a wonnnderful WOG and WOGGESS who protects me from "da wasting"" or some such nonsense. Crisis after crisis. "We are soooooo thanful for our Woggy to stand in the gap and chase off da homos". Well, that sure didn't fix anything, did it? And this makes their job so much easier. Imagine. They don't have to really PRODUCE anything. No demonstration of power, no miracles, nothing. Zip. Nada. Zero. They are instant heroes because of what did NOT happen. This explains why those who have a few serious problems kind of disappear in the night. They are bad advertising. What happened to all the promises of deliverence? "Well, we knows da people, and they be messed up. That's why". "They died because of their believing". To quote a line from one of my favorite stories: "what do you DO for the people, besides from saving them from gluttony?" That's all they can do. Beat them down mentally, physically, spiritually, financially. Still going strong.. God, I hate religion. And this may be one piddly insignificant cult, but it is one piddling insignificant cult that I happened to be involved in. Don't get me wrong.. I think the Bible and God are wonderful. Just what people do with it.. and they won't stop the nonsense, won't give up. Kind of like trying to convince a seventeen year old crack dealer to quit selling. He's not gonna- the money is WAY too easy. Jesus called them snakes. Hypocrites. Blind leaders of the blind. Thieves. Robbers. No wonder they put the gospels in the old testament "for our learning". Well, we don't wanna read that, dats negative.. we wanna read about being "blessed" all the time.. They should have a new greeting on the "wonderful for da believers" website- "enter at your own risk".

Bob, that's funny.. now my car, I have this little thing with about five or six antennas on it. One is about six feet long.. when I first installed them, I would drive down one local road here that is notorious for fast, unsafe drivers. I could see them coming up behind me, going about 75 or 80 in a 50 MPH zone. When they got about twenty car lengths behind me, they would slow down, and stay about twenty car lengths back. I had more fun than I had for a long time.. been thinking of painting it a flat black- that would scare them!

No Galen, no aspersions to the FCC. The discussion just kind of reminded me of one of the Radio WKRP in Cincinatti episodes- one of the few I saw. The D.J. that was really paranoid was on the lookout for "the radio cops". The transmitter site blew up- he said something like, "those radio cops, they can really play hard-ball".

"Our witchdoctor (sorry, WOG) must have some heapin' powerful spirits"

Kind of interesting.. you know, they have been in a constant "crisis" for decades. When I first got in, the big crises was big brother coming and taking over all our lives. Better have some guns, supplies squirreled away. Whew! Thank the MOG that it didn't happen. HIS believing did it all.. On and on. Through the POOP years. Through the crisis of being taken over by "homos". Through the crisis of being taken over by "nice people". Through the financial crisis. Through the "Y2K" crisis. Da world's gonna end ya know. Whew! We made it through that one. Obvious it didn't happen because "da household" was prepared- Now through "da internet" crisis. One "crisis" after another. And to what effect? "God's people" aren't given a moment of rest. Not a moment to regain their composure or balance. Be assured, there was more than one "emergency" meeting over this last deal. For them, it's a "crisis" if we are in the unfortunate circumstance of having to coach their kids on the local softball team. It's a "crisis" if they HAVE to make an unscheduled trip to the store on their own. And it's been like this- for DECADES. What a perfect recipe for control. Apparently, it works. Why stop now? Just when you think its safe- another "crisis". "WE have the inside skinny- debbils from lower Slobovia are planning a coordinated attack on da household.." "Whew. Thank da WOG that we got through THAT one".

Or could it be? They PAY them to "proudly" display his mug on the wall? At least that would give him some visible source of income.

Sex is not supposed to be a pole vaulting contest, for crying out loud..

Well well. Now pretty soon they'll be going around ripping hotel rooms apart. Just give the accountants something to do..

I think I see it Galen- the spell checking police. A lot like the "radio cops". They can play hard ball too.

"It is really sad, not to be able to express yourself. You have to stuff all of the feelings inside...one could go insane." And we know where that leads to- the Great Egress.

Nope. One of the guys was originally from Pa. A real idiot. The head honcho was like, 3rd or 4th corps- don't think he was 2nd. The event was long long ago in a state far far away.. but I remember it like it was yesterday.

Heh heh. But you know, it is inevitable. One day, she won't be able to remember where it all is. All those alleged Swiss and offshore accounts, and for the life of her, she just can't remember where she keeps all of those numbers. Can't be all bad though, the Swiss have to eat somehow. Reminds me of some of the stories a friend tells me about his mother. He is a very good son, but had to put her in a home, she just had health issues he could not handle. This guy wouldn't take advantage of anybody, for any reason. He was never part of der vey. They would have to go through the poor lady's closet, dresser, everything.. she was stashing- food. Anything- jello, bread, vegetables.. I guess the month old chicken was not too hard to find.

Darn squirrels.. heh heh.. good possibility though- lawsuits and such withstanding. Somehow, I don't think the money will save her. Who's gonna take care of her when she's REALLY old? Her kid that she marked and avoided? Donna? Maybe ole Harve will be up to the task.. She'll get stripped bare like there's no tomorrow. Reminds me of the squirrels around here in the fall- they are so busy burying stuff- I think they forget where most of it is buried in the winter. And the poor things look like they're starving.. heh heh. Oh well- I feed them a little. All of that frenetic activity seemingly doesn't do them a whole lot of good.

I actually still care. For those in, especially for those thinking about joining.. But it's like trying to love a mad dog. No matter what you do you'll get bit. One way or another.. guaranteed.

They will probably talk her into going to look at a new exhibit in da auditorium- "the great egress".

Now it all makes sense.. I thought they had a gas problem for a long time. Just stand up wind..

Yep.. typical. Come to think of it, "da webmaster" is not even an employee of da vey inc. What a pathetic existence. Still don't think he got "the beating' of his life? And probably from some young snot nosed friggin Hitler type but-somehow-debt-free son of a bitch. I have seen stuff like this before my very eyes- in the early nineties, these were the kind of leaders sent out to "tenderly lead" the flock. And they showed some real zeal in carrying out their mission. They are here to stay. Last I checked, some of the worst are now responsible for whole REGIONS. Even in "da good ole days" (EARLY seventies) I saw stuff that would curl your hair (or straighten it if it was curly to begin with..). I witnessed first hand how a group of leaders put their wives "in their proper place" for attempting to inject a little logic in a planning session. Not a public meeting. No MOG type being held up for ridicule or anything even remotely resembling that. A private, informal, gathering. What they did, you DO NOT want to know. The only thing I will say is that the women could have pressed criminal charges if they chose to do so. Somehow things are supposed to be so much better now. I wonder what it is like to be a "wife of the way" now. Somehow, this fifty-some year old guy just sits back and takes it- deluding himself that somehow this is all God's will. I am not saying he's evil- I would give him the benefit of doubt- probably the nicest guy you could know. Sadly, the nicest people in that outfit are targeted with the worst treatment. The nicest believers in our area were the first target of inquisition and expulsion. I am only "partly nice" and somewhat logical- took them a little longer to get around to me. Only partly mean at times. I guess I'm not quite "the right material". They've just got him convinced (or more "accurately" more conditioned than Pavlov's dog) that the cold stove is hot. Touch it and you're "possessed". "How many devils do you see? "You must be kidding. I can't see any devils there.." Zapppp- "wrong, bucko.." I was there too at one time.. saw devils under every rock, in every civic organization, behind every tree. Behind almost any motive. Add to this that I was not in the inner circle.. this guy is CORPS. The most dedicated, committed they've got. So who really "runs" that website? No question in my mind.

I dunno about that.. ole harve's letter sure did not impress me as being qualified as "communication". Communication requires at least two people. At the minimum, an exchange of ideas. I just don't see it. What I did see was an ultimatum of sorts, or a justification for ungodliness. And he could care less what you or I think. In the end, there was no exchange of thought or ideas, no real "communication". For the life of me, I can't see why he even bothered writing that little "beauty"- unless he thought he was doing God a service, somehow confronting us "knuckleheads" for the error of our internet ways. Just so much more screaming and beating of the chest.. I have heard enough of that already. "We are right because of... end of discussion". If anything at all, I think it had the opposite result of what he intended. Feel free to call this "communication", I call it something else entirely. "Communication" ha. When I saw the couple of pleasant exchanges between the guy and Igotout, I was counting the hours. Even the simple exchange of pleasantries was rather short lived. This is so typical of way tactics. See any "deadbeat" exwayfers? Dont run right away. Say a couple nice things, then dissappear when they're not looking.

"Fixed" and in more ways than one. Neutered. De-sexed. Sterilized. Holy cow.. how many hoops do you have to go through now, just to have the "priviledge" to tell all the wonderful "household" how blessed you are.. blessed about this, blessed about that? Blessed about what? "well, I am blessed that I am blessed". "Oh, well, I agree. I am glad you are blessed that you are blessed. You know what? I am blessed that I am blessed too.." And you have to have approval of your limb and region coordinator to pull off even this much. Precious freedom in de vey..

Who says it was HIS decision to begin with? John B himself? Not likely. Innies are not ALLOWED to make decisions. But I suppose he may have been given one decision: "you low life scumsucking weak etc etc who dared to let da household get infested.. etc. etc. have one chance to "fix" this. Or you're out on your rear with the rest of your greasespot friends...etc. etc." I think this little scenario is probably a lot closer to what really happened here. Think not? I have seen what has been done to people who have done or allowed far less "evil" than this. I have seen stuff that would make your hair stand on end, and I was not even in "the inner circle". I bet ole Rosie and gang vented some real steam over this one. Well, the website is definitely "fixed".

Yeah.. "spiffy" looking- ha. Funny, I thought they claimed to be followers of The Way, Jesus Christ. Here you have a website for "followers of Day Vey international inc". What does that say..