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Vickles, it is nice to see at least one of them come to their senses. I have had a couple of individuals say "sorry I was such a ***** " and have accepted it. The funny thing, a couple of times it was something that I thought was no big deal- at least to me.

Yep Rascal.. that's probably the closest resemblence to an apology that they could produce.

It might be easier for them to use a form letter: Dear (Sir, madam, or whatever) Though us, THE twits, would never admit wrongdoing, but if we did, we would have to say we are "sorry" for being the dimwitted, scumsucking, muckraking, dirtbags that we are reputed being in and around the known world. As we are fully responsable to report to "our" people everything in regards to peas and soup, we offer neither. Now that we're so nice, you can get off our backs and let us get back to the good ole cult business. Sincerely but no guarantee for the "truth" Your "beloved" twitsters. Maybe Rico outghta pay me for that one..

"Don't tell me they flew light years across the galaxy to do graffitti in a corn field in Nebraska" You know, I have seen more stupid and more crazy things happen..

Yep. A "coffee-LIKE" beverage..

Heh heh heh.. I think you hit the nail on the head. Of course, remove the alcohol and most will argue that it is no longer beer.. Kind of like me and decaffeinated "coffee".. no such thing..

Well.. I remember answering the door with a fellow on the doorstepwho was convinced that "they" were "after him". His eyes were very, very dialated..

Besides, it doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense either..

Sure, I was tricked, naive, deceived, stupid, call it whatever you want.. my fault? Yep- have to claim primary responsability. But to take advantage of that- it's criminal, in my opinion. At the very least, despicable, evil and devilish. Its not a crime to be stupid.. but it is to take advantage of an "idiot". Most people are not smart enough to see the man behind the curtain. God have mercy on those bastards..

Heh heh heh heh heh... priceless.

I know you can't even accept donations Galen, but the idea is funny, to me at least. I just remember some of the dancing around we did in the good old days- "do you charge for the class?" "Well, no, we just have required donation levels..."

I can almost imagine the look on ole Rosies face- brrrrrrrrr. Ha ha ha ha ha..

Probably more than all the WAP classes added up run by TWI for a whole friggin year, heh heh.

"Required" "Donation" ha ha ha ha ha...

"Donation" ha ha ha ha.. hey, they wouldn't be selling it now, would they? Heh heh.

No answer.. oh well.

Rascal- I repaired a couple of those old things in the last year or so.. built like boatanchors, probably never really die. Reel to reels- oughta be good for at least a couple a grand you'd think..

After all that- I think we are STILL in a spiritual fight. Real devilish stuff.

Yep. Sometimes, all it takes for me is for somebody to post about the "good old days" heh heh. I don't get too mad though- at least I can laugh about some of the stuff now..

SOME perhaps. The MOST miserable I have seen were stuck somewhere in a nice cosey leadership position where their job in life was well, to MAKE us miserable. Really- the next to last branch character I knew here thought something was wrong because we could still smile at times. Too happy. Well- she solved that "problem" in short order. I'll tell you what made me "miserable"- probably at the worst- when I found out what my love, labor and ABS REALLY supported. It helped buy the "lovemobile" for the mog, so he could conveniently have an army of nice, "fresh meat" ushered in any hour of day or night to take care of his supposed "need". It helped pay the salary of "sex slaves" for Loy the Boy. Yes, sex was attached to the job description. It paid for the chalet, the office, and the desk on which the bastard humped anything he could, except for his wife. It paid to SILENCE wrongdoings, small and great. It helped to pay for a second-rate fool's stupid kid to get an education that I could only DREAM of. It helped finance "three way's" for the mog. It CONTINUES to provide spiritually inept, evil, and downright devilish people with a life of luxury that most can only dream of.. All this is just the tip of the iceberg of what's happened in that joint.. no lawsuits, I probably never would have known. I think we know only less than one percent of what really happened there. I am not miserable, now.. but when I think of this stuff, it makes me mad. Years wasted, thousands of dollars down the hole- neither of which can ever be recovered. Not to mention the possibe hundreds of other folks I helped induct into that sad state of affairs. Oldies, I just don't see how you don't get it.. My impression is that the hateful and criminal activities of those bastards doesn't even BOTHER you- please tell me that I am wrong.

Yep.. love for God and people played a big part. I was a friggin sucker. Makes me feel used. The loving thing I should have done is said, "you wanna take this class, come to twig and have fun?" "Well, yes" then kicked their foot, told em to go find something better to do..

Had I known what kind of hell we were sending people into, I would have thrown a fit. I didn't have a clue- the abuse, the continual stream of ladies marched through the motorcoach- Cripe- people DIED because of THEIR evil and ineptness. Not to mention the present thought of where all of that ABS was really going- down the belly of that hellish place without so much as a "thank you". Sure we made a choice- based on what? The facts? "Well, we don't deal with facts, we just wanna talk about truths..." Lets just be "blessed". No wonder that they did not want "Da Ministry to be blamed"- for anything. The secret things now have been laid out in the light of day, thank God. And they're still the same outfit. Same numbnuts running it. It finally took for me to see Loy's (and crew's) unparalelled evil and insanity before they started losing their grip on me. They just made it TOO miserable. No more jumping through hoops.. no more.. I finally saw it was FRUITLESS.

Another quote of Schwaigers that needs repeating.. Conditioned- yes, in my opinion- at the "twig" level. They really got some mileage out of the good that some of us poured into that cesspool..

Yep- a NIGHTMARE. But life was just so wonderful back in the "good old days".. Homeless- jobless- destitute- what part of that don't you understand, Oldies? Others were not so "lucky".

I may have been REALLY, REALLY stupid- but I think that "mentally disturbed" may be going a little too far. Oldies- I notice when they kicked your rear out of the "program"- apparently you had a place to go. Many, many others did not have that little "luxury". Imagine yourself out in the middle of nowhere, and nowhere to go. Imagine yourself being stuck on a bus, no friends, the "friends" you had now hate you with a passion- being shipped back to only God knows where- perhaps the fear is a little more real than you are willing to admit. Those sons-of-a-bitches did do this to folk, on a regular basis. Even here we were told not to help people that were "no longer with da vey"- that they were not worth the effort- that they were not worthy to breath the same air. Motivation with fear was very real, and very effective. I agree with George- without Loy, I'd still be in that stink-hole. When he really got into the real irrational rants- he lost some control. Even stupid people can figure out some stuff..