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Typical. Just parroting his "daddy" in da verd.. I have heard similar statements out of the mouth of several "leaders"- almost all limb guys here with the exception of Ralph D. I heard similar statements out of the mouth of branch leadership. One thing you can say, "that kind" of belief was PERVASIVE. Most of my observations were before Loy came to power. Who was in charge of that show? You may merely accuse them of being over-zealous or something, but to me it is obvious that they learned it somewhere. If it looks like Nazi, smells like Nazi, I would venture to say that it IS Nazi. Maybe not in membership, but as Catcup said, definitely in ideology.

Yep. Who knows, maybe one of the "followers" accidently dropped a quarter in one of the bins at Wal-Mart or somthing..

Not modern alkaline types. They are usually good on the shelf for five to seven years. Television may be nice, but a radio will do the job. They may be costly, but if you want to keep frozen food frozen, and cold food cold, generators are a must. The price for a generator that is rated just enough to run a refrigerator is not too exhorbitant. Why have one big enough to run everything, including washer and dryer? With widespread power outages, you may not have running water anyway. Though it may not muster enough effort to run central air, a smaller generator could probably handle a window air conditioner when its not busy keeping food frozen. Since you will be running the generator outdoors, unless you have something REAL fancy, you may consider security. Other people will not have generators, yet they will greatly desire them, heh heh. Large chains that can't be cut with a common hacksaw seem to do the trick.. With a generator you must also consider fuel storage. Most gasoline will turn into goo in your carberator if stored untreated for over a year or so. There are additives- one brand name is Stabil, that makes gasoline usable for a very long time. Fifty or so gallons of gas will last a long long time keeping frozen food frozen, if used wisely (don't let the darn thing run all day and night, just enough to keep the freezer cold). Distilled water is a good thing to have around, despite the expiration date on the jug, the water really does not expire. This is much better than treating unknown water with the little pills. The pills may kill bacteria, but I think they do little to remove contaminants from the water. Another thing to consider: buy a television and/or radios capable of being hooked up to the lighter plug in your vehicle. The vehicle itself can be used for a source of emergency power when the little batteries in the TV run down. Or buy an inverter. This can be used to run 120 Volt AC appliances from the battery in your vehicle. Just be careful not to run the battery down so far that it cannot start the car..

Well, if they did, it proves one thing. A leopard may not change spots, but it sure tries to bleach em..

David, I have actually been following a lot of the thread.. and it is interesting. Sorry, insightful and serious is kinda tough for me to cough up very often, heh heh.

Thanks for the contributions so far.. Abigail, that's priceless, heh heh, But at this point I think Oenphile's site rates the highest.

For me, I think indulging in insanity is often pretty good therapy.. Here are a few of my favorites. Favorite #1 favorite #2 favorite #3

Absolutely Steve, I think it about as saturated with oxygen as its gonna get..

Happy birthday. Hope it is a good one.

Funny you mention that Trefor- I had to write a paper about DHMO for my first college level chemistry class. More info here

"Geeze, let the d@mn thread die already!" Not likely Belle- they have been arguing about water for centuries, heh heh.

Maybe they should just let it die with some dignity, heh heh.

"Can I cough up the canary now?"

A search for "The Way international" yields unimpressive results likewise. There is only one website that I could see for as long as the pages of links went that had anything positive to say about them, theirs. All the other ones report manipulation, deceit, bad (in their opinion) doctrine, abuse, alleged criminal activity- wonder how they deal with that? At least from what I hear, if anybody brings up questions about loy and the lawsuits, the questions are dismissed as not being real, but "internet driven". What's up with that???

I missed this wonderful instruction, as I exited around the time the internet was really catching on, at least in a big way. It wouldn't suprise me if they didn't add to this "and when get on the net, make sure that it is by twos" so you won't get jumped by internet devils..

Wowser. I would say that that little sentence passed over the desk of at least a half a dozen lawyers. Note, no guarantees given- jump through the hoops, soak yourself in enough TWI positiveness (brine), and miraculously, a person will finally find that God is "able to bring us health and peace". What it is NOT saying is quite enlightening. It does not say "and God will heal you". Typical Way double-talk. "Well, we didn't actually tell you that you'd get healed.." I wonder what their definition of "negatives of the world" is. Probably expensive, "devilish" medicine.. MJ, this may not help a lot, but I have some of the same questions you do.. I am not entirely satisfied with many of the reasons people give for why people don't receive healing. I think I am finally at ease with the idea that I may just plain old never know why. Sometimes that is the best answer you can give somebody..

And the only thing you can find that they actually "published" on the internet is "good" ole Harve's open letter to J.P. on the Greasespot home page. Some "victory" they can claim, heh heh. The results of one simple search, and most reasonable people may come to the conclusion that the current BOD is a group of liars, swindlers, criminals and/or worse. Who are you gonna believe? They can't convince anybody that it snows in Alaska, on their word alone, at least anymore. Hooray for da internet! Heh heh.

Oldies, now if they had the "production" in a different setting, like, dim lights, schnaps, lots of beer and in the company of naughty women folks, some of us may have loved it a little bit more, heh heh.

Well, I just played "casual observer" and did an internet search for our old "beloved" former leadership- Two out of the top three, yes, good ole Harve and Rosie- first page displayed say they are busy running a second rate cult, and same page mentions their alleged criminal complicity regarding Martindale's behavior. Includes all kinds of links to the real deal. Even if I was never involved in the group, and read this stuff, it would be an understatement to say that I would not be very impressed. Their sin is indelibly etched, for all the world to see if they care. They've gotta hate it. Names with no honor attached to them. And all the resources of the group could not come anywhere near being able to erase their contribution from history. Jean did not show up in the search, at all. Maybe he's a good guy, who knows.. Same kind of search for my name, it did show up- about six or seven pages down. It actually was a link to a site about something that I did that was actually good, and it had NO mention of Da Vey International- thank GOD, heh heh.

Redundant, perhaps... I think its more of a fashion statement. Any change would have to be an improvement.

What a novel idea, heh heh. I should have thought of that, my old neighbors thought I was nuts. The next to last branch coordinator I knew here forbade ANYBODY to witness to his neighbors. "I've spent xxxxx hours working with this guy, and I don't want anybody to mess with him." I actually respected him for this- he may have had his faults, but he wasn't a freaking out of his mind religious zealot, at least at that time. All the other jackasses wouldn't hesitate to come to your town, your neighborhood, stir stuff up, and leave you to fend for yourself.

"yeah he said something in "the class" along the lines "and he spoke to me clear as whatever just like i'm speaking to you now" Good grief- and even I could believe the unbelievable at one time. But I guess we had to swallow that one before "we should come to the realization that we owe our very lives to the ministry..." Maybe he just CONVINCED himself that God really spoke to him. Easier to sell horse manure if you're convinced that its made of pure gold.

Sigourney on steroids, "Ahhhl be baaak" heh heh.

"made and impact" "in the world" Sure would be interesting if we had a few specifics.. heh heh. "I keep hammering my head in the pavement, because the BOD tells me so. All this activity must be having some kind of an effect.."

Well, can't live in your own private boudoir forever.. "Ugly, Ugly, Ugly.............and they are Ugly too. Yuch! And Rosie's picture looks more like a mug shot for a Costco or Sam's club card." I dunno. Maybe more appropriate for the bottom of a bird cage, heh heh.