Ham

I personally know of a situation where a person turned in a child molester, and was reproved for possibly casting a shadow on TWI's "illustrious" reputation..

The real point though.. Anything of a legal nature- I witnessed first-hand how people were encouraged to forego any kind of legal action against those who repeatedly stole, assaulted, philandered, refused to support their own flesh and blood, just to name a few. I saw one limb coordinator put horrendous pressure on one lady I know, to not press for past due child support payments from ex so said person could go WOW, and do the "work of the lord". Forget the idea she could barely find enough food for her kids to eat.. I saw people with cancer avoided like the plague- they MUST be possessed, after all.. I wouldn't label this as exclusive to TWI- I am sure other "superior" groups do the same crap. Just haven't seen it anywhere else. Honestly- they probably DROVE folks to wicca and other religions..

Naw, Belle. It must be your evil "twin"..

I wouldn't lay this stuff at the feet of TWI alone- but I haven't even seen another group that behaves in this manner. "They" don't like to get "messy". Nooope. "They" would rather that you did NOT report spousal abuse, even if you have two black eyes and a broken nose.. just too "embarassing" for the poor darlins. You know, you just HAVE to forgive.. "They" don't want to get contaminated with YOU- because you have some kind of disease that there is no known cure- or one deemed "devilish".. "They" would rather rewrite the parable about the good Samaritan. Just too messy, the way it stands. Blood and gore, you know. They have far more important things to do- run classes, keep their noses up the current followers rear ends to see if they have a mortgage or something.. Have to make sure there are only three cubes of ice instead of four.. Besides, the "victim" brought it all on himself. Hey, he's just playing the part of a victim, lieing there in a pool of his own blood- oughta just be able to believe, or he SHOULDA believed to begin with.. solution? Just mark and avoid the guy. Stinking hypocrites. I can see them standing before the Lord- "well, I managed to keep myself pretty neat. Now, where are the rewards.."

"congratulations" if it is appropriate. I sincerly hope you find a wonderful life together.

small "g" is rather appropriate

Well, one thing you could say- raising the dead in rather on the same par as getting the department of social services to do the right thing..

I'm trying.. don't know if there are enough literary indulgences I can muster up..

I wouldn't discourage this kind of "fun", by no means. But "subtle" does have its strong points..

Well, Yankees is, Yankees does, I should know..

How typical. Let's just throw all logic aside to the wind.. And they wouldn't even question it. Brainwashed, even to the trustee level.

May I add, boring too.

I'll tell you what I see in Mo.. DESPITE the worst circumstances in the world, she STILL believes in a God.. That she even LIVED through this aversity is a testimony to the goodness of God.. "all those who live godly in christ jesus SHALL suffer persecution" want to cut that one out of the book? Just another one of the "promises of God".. I did get at least one good teaching out of TWI: Little red book that used to come with PFAL: "If you haven't suffered at least SOME of the defeat that Job endured, you haven't really lived yet.." paraphrased of course, but fairly accurate. Just wait. I don't say this with an evil, snickering demeanor or anything like that- but you've got "your's" coming.. just a matter of time. I've had some of mine.

I dunno.. maybe you just don't care. I'd rather not think that of anybody.

Alan, I think a lot of the trouble is trying to understand an infinitely diversified God with archaic, primitive beliefs. We do not believe in the same God our ancestors believed in. That's just plain impossible. They often had a God that made little earth the center of the universe. Our God made the sun the center, at least of, OUR little part of the universe. Even in the natural sciences like Physics and astronomy, we are only beginning to learn what we DON'T know. Oh , by the way, I still believe God's redemption of mankind through Jesus Christ has TREMENDOUS value. Just- what in the WORLD are you doing with it? Sitting like another religious bump on the log? Laugh as you may about this.. you have no idea what the "enemy" believes. How in the world do you possibly think you are going to reach them???

I owe it all to you Belle.. heh heh heh..

P.S. Keep looking "Rosie".

Not worth it.. but you'll find at least two surpises elsewhere on the board..

Heh heh heh heh heh.. Life sure is fun now, isn't it?

Dear, dear "Rosie". Wayyylll, bless your little heart, Maaahm. Your mama would be so proud of you, because of the job you do for god's "elect". In all honesty, "Maaaaahm," let me sincerely say, you remind me of one of my old Limb Coordinators. It all just be because you have such a "way" with scriptures. If it wasn't for your accent, I'd ask "You're from New York, aren't you?" Keep up the good work leading songs, "Maaaaaahm". Sincerely, Ham.

Another thread got me on this- I found myself using one of these, and graciously edited it.. How to insult people with "way" terminology, and they might even think it was a compliment. 1. You must be one of those people that go to church.. 2. You remind me of one of the coordinators in the old ministry I used to be part of.. 3. You are sure looking "Rosie", today..

Woo hoo, heh heh heh. Sorry..

Folks, I'd let her have the last word.. so friggin what..

Edited because it contained the WORST insult I could throw at ANYBODY.

I never read that ANYWHERE. The way I read it, Mo did NOT agree with the state of Alaska in their "infinite" wisdom.. despicable. Yep. She must have pi**ed somebody off, all the way up the vey tree..