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Compromise, no. Put up with.. perhaps. A cakewalk compared with the crap I put up with in der way.. I think a lot of us just re-evaluated what we were taught and came to a different conclusion. Well, despite some of the peace treaties, I haven't seen local protestant churches celebrating mass, installing priests, and purchasing "holy relics".. :)-->

Unbelievable, almost. "come ere, little kiddies, we'll show you how to be REAL christians.." All from a not-so real Navy Seal.. Ptooie.

Mo, too bad they didn't try that in der vey.. Amazing.. they DID throw people out because of idle gossip..

Ptooie.

Catcup, that kind of teaching slowly made its way down to the local level- one little compromise, one little sacrifice after another. Seeing how much havoc it caused for people who had some kind of connection with the outside world, I couldn't imagine what it was like behind closed doors.

Let them eat cake..

Yep. That's kinda what I meant about "welfare". Vey welfare. Before any take offense.. No bad aspersions to anyone who finds themselves forced to live on public assistance.

Number THrEe THousand. Paw, havE mercy on me.. Maybe I ougta celebrate wiTH a brEw. Or several. Enough of em, and even I might start to believe Gore won THE election.

Or it coulda been the 104 degree heat.. I remember when they used to pack people into that thing like sardines..

Sounds like so much fun. Darn, wish I could be there..

I enjoy Exie's posts as well, I hope she's OK, and comes back soon. Love you, Exie..

"Awaiting the Return".. kind of gives me the "willies" too. But to me it seems to be more ILLOGICAL vey speak. To be waiting, or "awaiting", the said unconscious person would have to be conscious, no?

Mo, just wondering. What does that leave the ordinary Alaskan to DO?

A good pun, and I didn't evey try! :D-->

Yeah, yeah, Paw, I probably deserve it.. At least people can now sit back, and say- now it makes THE perfect sense.

JusT eigHt post lEft to THE dregs of greasespot: "THinks gorE won THE election". Ptooie.

Only "regular" church for me is Greasespot, if you dare call it a church! :D-->

In a sense, I think the question is kind of like the cold fusion issue. The two "hucksters" backed up their claims with ENOUGH scientific mumbo jumbo to fool the world- for a while. In a way, I think a lot of the "ingredients" to the product called der vey were often valid and truthful. Just the product as a whole, stunk..

I think sometimes the thing is updating.. I have found its usually available after a couple minutes or so.

Especially the "use and usages" of holy spirit, in the form of an appendix. RHST was 90% Bullinger's work. Dusted off and polished up perhaps, but you see Bullinger's unmistakable watermark in it.

I would agree. But I haven't exhaustively looked at their works like I did TWI's. I would, but I'm just too tired.. heh heh. "We believe the Bible is accurate" "We believe the Bible can be trusted" kind of generic, almost could be considered public domain.. But any vey doctrine, and I am thinking of the supposed "original" work in the holy spirit field- if I don't see documentation listing Stiles, Bullinger, Leonard, Vaylee (sp?) and others, it WOULD kind of bother me. You do make a good point, a copy of a copy of a copy is still: a copy.

It looks like as far as all practical details are concerned, YES. Donna's still living on welfare (vey money), and loy is supposedly out in the cold cruel world.. but legally, on paper, probably not.

Interesting what this little "historical" reference leaves OUT- the division, the mad groping for power.. the adultery. Just like the fairy tale, I guess they lived "happily" ever after..

I dunno.. definitely not guilty of the gross plagiarism that is TWI.. I read their work on the hope. They basically said, "we read this, others say that, therefore we think the word 'rapture' is more appropriate.." or descriptive. Interesting that they acknowledged folks with DIFFERENT beliefs. Pre-tribulation rapture doctrines, post-tribulation rapture doctrines.. Seems what TWIish was left in the couple of more recent works was better documented.. I have not exhaustively read all their works, so I can't have any more than a general opinion.

Plus they seem to tend towards documenting their source material, thoroughly. At least in the materials that I personally read. There's actually a real works cited section in the back of the stuff I read. That's the second thing I would give them credit on, that they are academically honest. More than you can say than for the "parent" organization.