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Yeah.. if the cookie jar is empty, I guess all that's left is to grab at straws.. I still think God works in us though.. but in my opinion.. I think its far more subtle than the "all nine all the time" kind of stuff we were taught.. and many times more "earth shaking" than that.

What I find interesting in all of this.. Why is it: people "back then" had to be TOLD what loving your neighbor is all about.. That you don't just help yourself to his property.. That you don't just murder somebody cause they don't like you or something.. That if you have an animal that will potentially harm or kill somebody, that you'd BETTER do something about it.. That you are supposed to help your neighbor pull his farm animal out of the ditch even if you HATE him.. The list could go on and on.. Are people THAT inately evil and unloving? Do they HAVE to be taught HOW to love, down to the minutest detail? And that IS what you find in the "law".. But it seems that despite all of the careful packaging, and mind-numbing details.. some fail to "get it"..

Could very well be Belle.. kinda like "you'll be a greasespot by midnight".. And they have the "proof".. Nice to be able even just to CONSIDER these kind of statements without fear of getting jumped by the ole lion or something.. Uh oh! now I'm in trouble!! :D Heh heh.

The reason they DON'T get this kind of revelation, in my opinion, is because they DON'T HAVE "revelation" to begin with.. I've seen the most stupid, mundane stuff passed off as "revelation".. "Somebody in the audience, somebody in the audience out there in TV land.. I see you have a broken leg.." No friggin kidding.. probably a couple hundred for that matter.. lets be a little more "specific"! Still.. some poor sucker- probably more than one- is out there jumping up and down, shouting "hallelujah" .. Until he lands on the broken leg.. I think they can't see the greater- and the fact that they can't "see" the lesser only confirms it..

Unfortunately, usually it is the opposite that is true..

Another thought Belle.. My friend who was in the navy described this about when he was in basic training.. Sometimes, somebody would make a cute, little paper ship, place it in the urinal thingy, and set it on fire. As I passed along the line of "troops" present.. it got a rather interesting reaction..

Maybe this was how TWI "officially" supported the relief fund.. Good grief. Taking credit for this.. ptooie.

Scary thing.. it could have been me as well.. and it was for a time.

Possibly the same kind of crap that drove most of us off that are here, I would imagine.. but worse.

Thanks for the comments so far.. I only have a few specific things to say about your comments thus far.. But at least it makes a little bit of sense. I think that in a lot of ways, we took one verse out of the bible and tried to make it a doctrine.. "the day you eat therof, thou shalt surely die".. " well, it MUST mean, died spiritually, after all, it would not make any sense TO ME OTHERWISE.." Maybe we are just not smart enough to see the answer. That's just one verse.. now we have to explain away all that stuff in Ecclesiastes.. Of course death is a kind of change.. and the results are relatively irreversible.

But you sir, are not Jesus. And why you continue to pretend to be, I have no idea.. The Lord Jesus Christ indeed was who he claimed to be.. Abusive, broken down, aduterous, idolatrous drambuie guzzlers need not apply for the position..

Just like Hitler from the bunker..

I've tried making this point myself Belle.. no fruit, no results.. Where are the RESULTS? Don't tell me what kind of results that I can get.. What in the H is it doing for YOU? Or more appropriately, what is it doing TO you? I have to evaluate myself about things in this manner, all the time.. what about you?

But really.. what did the "word" cost you.. if indeed it was the word.. Sorry. But you have to accept the bad with the good.. or at least you WILL. What a morass of pure evil, manipulation, hunger for POWER over others, abusive in habits and practices, Drambuie breathed rapist and alcoholic that all defined vic.. but he "loved the children".. ha. He could shed a few tears.. alas, wasn't the man he knew to be.. and he KNEW. Can't lie to the man in the mirror forever.. I have put myself in the shoes of those who he raped, pillaged, and defamed.. and it is NOT COMFORTABLE. Someday, maybe you will..

Bro. Speed, Drambuie was the mog's choice of drink..

I'll say it once again: all this makes me want to nominate yet one more chosen individual to be reincarnated as a woman for the Mog's "service".. ptooie. That would be "hell". Nothing like cuddling up to a Drambuie drenched, lecherous SOB.. Yuck.

I've noticed that too. Its kind of like, editing, without editing. And the original post does not indicate that it was "edited". But it was "appended" perhaps..

Good grief.. What if the power just a likely just happened NOT to come back on? They would have been castigated before the "household" as being less than a flea on the back of a possessed camel.. Holy smokes.. Innies, you all better be able to control the weather now..

Well.. sounds like another "creative" way to rid themselves of long term staffers..

:D I really see your point now. Most people, after posting while drunk as a skunk, two hours later, are still: drunk. Might as well not have an edit feature at all! :D

Gag me.. how many times have I heard this.. how many MORE times have the innies heard this, word for word..Good grief. Same "stuff", week after week, year after year, decade after decade.. Same tired, worn out stuff.. I assume the guy even NAMED the figure.. heck, why waste such a valuable little piece of knowledge.. it is in the "bible" (rise and expansion book) after all.. Seems to me the choir ought to be getting pretty sick from all of this dull, repetitive "preaching"..

Well then! They could pull him out of "emeritus" for just a little while.. he could be donna's "girlfriend" in the production..

Belle, the truth of the matter.. I don't WANT to know.. or look for that matter :D May not bother others, but I Never got used to it.. after forty years.. still "weird".. From one who had the athletic prowess of a Carp, I could never tell you.. From one who could dance like a Carp, I couldn't tell you anything about this either..

That's the whole point!!! Must be some secret code between wimen.. only they can understand.. :D Not gonna tell ME, noooooooo..

Stupid stupid guys, Belle.. not because she's a lesbian though.. :D