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Socks, I think its more like a poorly constructed, or just plain old leaky boat, and only has the capacity of carrying one of the board at any one time over the lake without sinking. Problem: get all three over to the other side alive, with the thought: can't leave MG and JL alone, without MG bludgeoning JL. Can't leave JL and JS alone, without JL bludgeoning JS. Sounds like a problem for my Math 300 class..

Maybe the "individual" shouldn't give me a REASON to be biased..

It must have been a cold, blustery August day, the snow had not yet settled upon the pumps. VP was on his way to the dump with his "useless" documents, the gehenna, where the fires never cease. and he just HAPPENED to trip as he walked by a newfangled Xerox copier.. The wind and snow started to maddeningly whirl about- grasping the books of the MOG to be- lighting struck, hail.. sheep, cows and pigs, barns and gas pumps were swept up into the developing malestrom.. The xerox machine chewed relentlessly upon the swirling mass of debris.. and MIRACULOUSLY, the storm quit as soon as it started. There at vp's feet lay the foundation upon which to build his "ministry"..

Well.. that's one way to deal with your critics.. Sounds like the breakup of the Beatles.. the "sue me, sue you" blues.. "Well, JL, let's make it a lunch date. My lawyers will call your lawyers.."

That's why I call it blood money..

1. Stealing and Plagiarism are just plain wrong, unless a MOG/MOGETTE has a good reason.. 2. Adultery is verboten, unless a MOGGY has a "special need".. 3. Screaming, writhing and frothing at the mouth belong in an "institution", unless a leader has real "spiritual anger".. feel free to add or comment..

No joke..

... and the media is gathered, anxiously awaiting the big announcement.. but a hush falls upon the crowd, as JL himself makes an appearance.. "Ladies and Gentleman, our theme for the year: The promised land of the Prevailing Word, the Year of the Prevailing Prophecy.."

Naw, its not a purge. I do feel pretty good today.. Just all of the hawking these groups do for the greatest and bestest classes look more like a high motivation type informercial.. How they all can sell the same thing and claim it's different is beyond me. Haven't had their version? somethins wrong..

"Feet washing 103" Spend two weeks at a beautiful location, where you learn to perfect your skills. With many other likeminded and motivated believers, you will learn to avoid near violent and often sarcastic confrontation, by learning how to do it right, properly manicuring the MOG/MOGETTE'S Toesies. Here you will learn the inner hidden truths of Nail fungus, behold the inner sanctum, only seen by those who are properly qualified. Food(?) provided. A bargain, at $799.95.

"Move along, move along, nothing more to see here.." OK potato, you can have your thread back..

Yep.. all those years of witnessing, running classes, etc. as a VOLUNTEER.. ABS, etc.. and today, I don't have enough resources to bury myself in case of my uneventual demise.. a year or so ago, I told my kids- "just prop me up in a chair in the woods somewhere, I'll be OK. I'll just enjoy the scenery, watch the deer play.."

I know what would happen if "they" tried to establish some kind of legitimacy at the university I'm attending at the moment.. .... would hit the fan.. I'd see to it personally. Then a "donation" would probably fix their little "problem". Well.. that would be one way to take MY abs and get it put to a cause I'd a rather it went..

Yep. It's blood money.. some of us here find ourselves trying to dig ourselves out in our fifties..

Yeah.. and the big claim they make- "we have the BEST package" anyone has to offer.. When in fact, it's the SAME package. Same warmed over leftovers from vic's oven.. You'd think sixty year old leftovers wouldn't be very healthy to the normal digestive system.

"Feet Washing 101" only $149.95. A product of "over fifty years of biblical research"- You too can benefit from the cumulative years of our researcher's work and experiences. Included with the course: Proper implement (bucket) Tossed in with tuition, the "secret ingredients" (water, soap) and one properly qualified feet-washee. "Feet Washing 102" Learn the exciting and exactness of bringing the training of feet washing 101 to perfection, the proper use of the drying implement. Only an additional $149.95..

OMG Sushi.. :biglaugh: It's true though.. The local corps here couldn't figure it out, for TWO YEARS. Nobody came, nobody asked.. "hmm, must be somethin wrong with da PEOPLE..." They didn't have a clue.. I can't call the guy a bigwig exactly.. but a long time believer couple came up from headquarters, really nice people, and they had a few smarts beyond the bible.. People lined up by the DROVES to ask them a few questions.. The corpses STILL couldn't figure it out..

Good point Pond, I have to agree with you on this. And it seems any kind of of public scrutiny there (at home) opens an already aching, putrid sore, at least for some. These are people that have put themselves in God's place for many people.. I certainly would want to know what kind of people I was dealing with, what kind of qualifications a MINISTER brings to the table. A minister is supposed to be BLAMELESS, and not in vic's definition either. "we know da VERD" just doesn't cut it anymore, at least for me.. I thought that was one of the qualifications for "leadership" in the church, how well do you take care of your own.. After leaving der vey, I pretty much took "normal" people on face value.. give them the benefit of the doubt.. But these "ministers".. I almost feel like they are guilty until proven innocent.. just too much at stake.

I think it may be more likely a bribe to make campus life much oh so easier for a wayfer How else could they be included as a recognized student organization? Maybe it's one last ditch effort to bring the doctrine and practice of der vey to the next generation.. I wonder if the University of Toledo knows that it is "blood money"..

From their website, front page: http://www.truthortradition.com/ Good grief.. Not understood by most Christians.. really? Same old thing.. "we've got the inside skinny on this thing..." Funny how they leave this stuff on the front page of their "newspaper". Same old crap, same old manipulation. Don't tow the line? I'm sure they can come up with a "conditional" prophecy that will tell you what will happen if you don't stay in line.. more from http://www.truthortradition.com/ SAME OLD THING. If it doesn't happen, it isn't the "PROPHET's" fault, it's yours. The Vey tried this kind of thing long ago.. Then again, maybe it's not the same old thing.. I think it's worse.

Hope it doesn't weigh too much. I'll call two men and a truck.. :biglaugh:

what's a "hellover"?

Some of them were just plain NUTS. I saw froth come out of some of those guys.. Loy was about the worst. I think the "spiritual anger" thingy just gave some a good reason for practical insanity..

Probably VeyGB cracked down on em again.. I hope they saw what they have taught these kids.. they seem to have a rather obvious hardness, as far as abuse of others is concerned. "well, I'm blessed.. less jess get back to business as usual.." As a parent, I'd be ashamed.

What I wonder- did the University HAVE to accept it? I'd think if I was on the board, I would have had about the same sickening feeling about it as if the Church of Scientology contributed.. " ahem.. thank you, I think..."