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Maybe this can help them in their pursuit of truth, justice and anti-defamation of spiders: Sprawled Out, you really shouldn't have gotten me started, It's hard to find the off switch..

lawyer says, "is that a spider in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me..."

thirty minutes? wowser.. AND thought provoking, instead of authoritarian, thought numbing, and controlling? I would be impressed too, with that alone. Maybe that shoots my theory, that if they hit the big time, things go for the worse.

I wonder, did M. and K. G. have a lawyer file this with the court, or is this a "do it yourself" kind of litigation?

These guys might be able to show them the finer points of dentistry:

"Tithing" "Not enough, try harder"

Hmm. Looks like one of their lastest efforts generating funds..

Well, life is full of suprises. I was expecting it to say, "you'll have to wait to take the class"

Perhaps you misread me as well. No, I'm not bitter, or hatefull. But I'm not gullible either, at least anymore. I'll admit "no public dialog, buy my book" tends to ruffle my feathers a little bit. On his word, STFI is supposed to have the best "package" in the world.. I've heard that before. In TWI, people stayed at first, becuase the supposed 80% good of the package kept them, they could justify a couple unpleasant sessions with the then moggy.. Then it got worse. They stayed for what they perceived the 60 percent good.. Then they stayed because if they were good enough, they'd get back to the "purity" of the package. At the worst of times, loy would scream that they had the best anybody had to offer.. So here, we don't have outward anger, we have arrogance. "and to the rest of you, the critics of STFI, come to our package, tap into the root.. see the truth of our claim that we're the best, nothing's worth public scrutiny, end of 'discussion'" Arrogance, to the end. The Lord says he hates arrogance.. I can be arrogant at times, but it wears off- eventually I learn that I don't have all the answers. When are these guys gonna?

Well.. that he came from "money" (or at least an appearance of it) may explain his ascension up der vey tree..

I haven't had any experience with smokers. All I can say is, don't forget the onions..

Jim, I have to modify it slighly, if you don't mind :) "Betamax" "The wave of the future" One for loy: "Tiger Woods" "A little known golf wanabe that will never amount to anything"

"da promised land of der prevailing word" "a nearly unattainable and mystical state of being, where, for the most faithful, even devils can be foiled, merely by proper planning and implicit obedience"

"Vacation" "An unallowed concept in the promised land of da prevailing word." "I have a bad cold" "see definition for 'vacation'"

"apostle" "one who brings a new blight to his generation. It may be an old blight, but it is a new blight to the generation he speaks."

Temple Lady, that's more spots than you can find on a Dalmation..

If somebody really wanted to know, I would tell.. Naw, its not obcene or anything.. just, weird..

I had a really, really bizarre dream last night.. one of those you wake up saying what the h*ll am I doing???? naw, better not say.. Somebody on the board at STFI might think it means something..

Reminds me of a line in Jurrasic Park.. "naw, all these dinosaurs can't reproduce.." "how do you know? has somebody gone out, pulled up their skirts, and checked?" "naw, no need.. we KNOW". Paraphrase, at the best.. But really.. if a person is sold on the the basis of the dynamics of somebody's presentation, I think the person is "bewitched". In Galatians terms, that is.

It might be appropriate, if it were not for the fact that HE IS NOT AN APOSTLE.Maybe he can run a good show, a good production, authoritatively speak like he knows the bible- but that doesn't qualify, to me. vic ran a good show too. like his "father", he cut his teeth in the brothel called TWI, in my opinion. I don't paint him guilty by association. I know of SEVERAL people in offshoots that I would trust. Besides the fact he sought out diligently those with "familiar spirits", who watch people's faces melt into devils, see spiders crawling out of noses, and the like.. I think he's disqualified. This kind of crap really disgusts me. I think this verse is more appropriate to the situation: You're the one claiming the apostleship of st. john. I'd pull back the clothing first and look to see if that's really a sheep under there..

Thanks Roy.. those are some good words.

This might be one explanation..

What is even more sad, is the one that came here, "prophesying" imminent devil spirt possession, if we we don't lay off, so to speak, and accept the apostleship of st. John.. It would be laughable if it isn't so serious. Having been away from der vey for long enough, this kind of stuff looks really really bizarre. As in "fruitcake" bizarre. I don't know if a group like that attracts them, or produces them. Kinda like the question of the chicken and the egg.. The people on the outer circle may be wonderful, sincere, etc.. But you have people who see spiders, see people's faces turn into devils, or seek out and believe those who do, that RUN THE PLACE. To someone who isn't involved, honestly- it looks like a sanitarium where the patients are in charge.

The second picture is kinda neat, looks like a freezer, turned inside out.

That just might do it.. At present, he only accountabiliy that this circle of "apostles and prophets" owe only seems to be to themselves.