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If indeed karma and reincarnation turn out to be true, it would be very fitting that some among us came back as WOMEN, in "service" of the MOG. Really. "servants" of the "greatest bestest", latest, HUCKSTER. But I wouldn't wish what some people here got on my worst enemy. Even if the Apostle Paul were proven to do the same kind of evil, after being "converted", I'd spit on his grave too.

My math 300 instructor would take five points off for something like this..

Interpretation: "I raped, pillaged and plundered, even when I KNEW BETTER". I imagine the next thought was "ah, if only I was young again.." Ya know, ole vic did manage to relive his youth, vicariously, through loy.. loy grew up to be not the man that vic knew to be too.

Once upon a midnight drear, I drank a little too much beer. I stumbled, shook, and wobbling swayed as I walked along the way. Pink elephants I never met till surfing on the internet. Once home I took a quick cold shower, and gave the puter some nice fresh power. I surfed until the light of day until I browsed greasespot cafe. The page looked nice, and neatly done the forums looked like they were fun. but Rosie's pic brought on great fear, I pulled the plug, and blamed the beer.

One kid here, child of two "faithful" ones here, kinda dissapeared quietly into the next town. I was really suspicious. Any inquiry was met with "oh, he's doing fine.." with little details. I got the impression that for me to talk with him was the last thing they wanted.

I mean, we haven't seen hide nor hair of the wolf after the first post. You'd think a person would have enough good sense to know that making a statement like "I love vic, no matter WHAT people say here" is kinda like tossing a couple hundred pounds of fresh hamburger into a shark tank.. Maybe.. maybe he's on the cabinet at der vey. Checking things out.. seeing the possible consequences of re-instituting PFAL as their bread and butter program.. Well, now they know..

What I wonder is if he is J.L. Or maybe somebody wanting to open a new Belezian type fellowship in the U.S. Just testing the waters, toss out a tasty, choice "I love Wienerville" statement just to see what would happen..

Good for you.However, I know a few who indeed did. That's nice. If it's "negative", or bursts the illusion that all was so fine and dandy, you don't accept the truthfulness of the account. What about the others? ah. "negative", must not be telling the truth, doesn't agree with "reality". We were conned. The job was so good, people still don't know that they paid for a cart of horse manure with the blood, innocence and sanity of their own brethren. "what did the 'word' cost you?"

Just wonder. Where in the world do you think loy LEARNED his despicible behavior? He didn't just make it up as he went along. Not just loy either. The group was/is corrupt from top down. Who was at the top?

They kept EVERYTHING. "birth to da corpses" paper, "evaluations", "leaders" comments and impressions. Personally, I'd be kinda "creeped out" to find the then "mog" had his greasy fingers on MY personal data, thinking of the "possibilities".

The despicable part of it.. those jackasses who willfully, with premeditation, chose their victims were the same ones sitting up front, sharing "der verd", acting as the most holy.. we "learned" from hypocrites, and worse. At least ONE lady was confronted with vics "greatness" as he sat there with her evaluation and other paper work IN HAND. He chose his victims based on the data he had on the corps. That little "my life before the corpses" paper showed him who would do what. People with past abuse were often the ones singled out.

In a way, I can see how someone can deny or minimize this kind of thing. It's too "shocking", too "heavy".. really is a blow to what some people think of as "reality". This kind of premeditated abuse and rape of God's people really show the depths of evil that was the underbelly of twi. Still there. Rosie KNEW. Donna KNEW. At least loy is gone.. one step in the right direction..

Yeah. "They" also had all of the paperwork from your past, the paper where you "spilled your guts" and told them everything about your background. Plus evaluations, etc. etc. They KNEW who would be pliable, who would submit, who would talk, and who wouldn't.

Bolshevik, just wonder.. who are they? I know of half a dozen or so they've chased off.. Is it REAL minister experience, or in-house TWI minister "experience"? I'm not trying to be critical or funny (an exception to the rule here ) Just want a little clarification.

Hey, get his name, I'll see if I can do something. But if it's Cletus or Rufus, I think you're better off just letting him chew..

Armed, well.. here is one of my cousins in Michigan. Last I knew he was in a militia here or something.. Then there's cousin Cletus and Rufus from the deep south. Careful there Socks, I think you were lucky that time..

What's even worse, those who are in conflict are PERMANENT "shareholders" in the organization. Can't vote them out to put them out of their misery, so to speak..

Hey, if they let a nutty squirrel stay around here, what's the big deal with another lowlife?

Well, the rodent was smarter than the people in the movie..

Thought I'd give people a chance to see who writes all this stuff. You can sip your coffee, sit back, and it all makes perfect sense.. devilishly handsome character, is he not? http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showuser=1311

I find the comparison intriguing though. The same people in twi who have turned a blind eye to the abuse they heaped on their own people, are also adamant holocaust deniers. No kidding. Here is a link to an older thread. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...st&p=162500 This is the attitude of twi's "next generation." At this point, I don't think twi needs to be "good", I think it needs to be beaten into submission..

Yeah, that's really me. It's not one of the best pictures I have, I forgot to shave a couple of days.

Just a thought. Why is it that the most adament advocates of "let dead dogs stay buried under the fountain" or say "move on, move on, nothing to see here.." are often those who perpeptuate vp's legacy? I think the old codger EARNED his rotten reputation. Worked for it.. why not let him keep it? Father, teacher, philanthropist (at times), bully, thief and plagiarist, adulterer, abuser and rapist of women, fleecer of God's flock.. The "troubling" thing here for some is that a person can observe a majority of this kind of character and behavior in many who studied under him. I would like to see how c. g. would answer a few questions. Answer would probably be "never happened". vp's legacy ENABLED loy and others to do many of the same acts. I'd like to see how loy would answer a few simple questions. Probably get nothing more intelligent than "I was just doing what da man told me to do.." "I didn't gas em. I was just following orders.." It's like seeing history repeat itself with SOME of the offshoots. Picking seeds, finding something "flashy", "unique" to add to their "package". Trying to net in a new bunch of unwary people. But it is kinda pitiful. As hard as they try to polish their gem, it is still as intriguing as a rock.

Some wounds are so deep that they NEVER heal.