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As hard as she tries, rosie just can't train donna how to set the thing.. They can't find the groove in the CD..

Maybe the clock is broken there, or maybe it's just blinking "12:00"

I would agree. My last post, I was only referring to the big scheme. But these "garden variety" devils can play quite a bit of havoc with people's lives. I'm just glad there isn't enough power to go around for these numbnuts..

It may be theoretically possible.. but most people wouldn't look too human after being subjected to enough acceleration as to bring to to a velocity to sufficiently dialate time.. :)

Why can't you have it both ways? There are hundreds of thousands of "devils" in the world, if not millions, but not many were REALLY significant. Hitler was, Stalin, Milosevek.. vic only managed to gain a following of at most, what.. 20,000? The garden variety "devil" doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

Reminds me of an old Doctor Who episode.. the villain was fragmented across time, told his earlier self to have Leonardo do up a few more Mona Lisas, hide them in the cellar, and he only had to dig them up a few hundred years later.. :) Now, if the physicists see something that indicates time travel, they know enough to look for the error in equation or calculation..

Thanks for your input Mike. Did you vote?

Yeah. I wonder if it was because "leadership" wasn't happy. They can't be, by God, you can't be either..

The quote I liked was "Convincing yourself that you are in Chicago while you are still in New York is delusional thinking." http://www.avataroverdrive.com/inside_avatar/primaries.htm Who knows.. maybe they are another cult.. but they do have a few interesting statements.. Yeah. And what do we have, but so many superstructures of different sets of theology.. all fighting to maintain their identity. They almost seem to have life of their own..

OK. Here is where the Squirrel is in the twilight zone, or out of a Stephen King novel, as Groucho succintly suggested, or merely alluded to.. I think the experience of transition is SO traumatic, even under the best of circumstances, that 99 percent of us cannot consciously consider what happened.

Seems like another life away, doesn't it?

I don't think that anybody does. All I know is adhering to the same bunch of dogma for close to twenty years with unflinching loyalty, I was pretty stagnant..

I dunno.. I think anything goes.. but I would really think a person should think a few times before tattoing their boyfriend/girlfriend's name somwhere.. tattoos have been proven to have longer longevity than marriage.

And don't worry. You won't get possessed, or any more possessed than you already are..

Looks like it may favor the religious "right" here.. still, I am impressed the the amount of uncertainty in the crowd.. 147 views. Ideally, I'd like to see a hundred and some votes on this thing.. Come forward, you cyber creatures of the night.. just log in anonymous and vote. Nobody will ever know..

Hey, I talk to myself all the time. Sometimes I actually answer.. No, somebody had post number two on this thread. No idea what happened to it or who the poster was.. it just went "somewhere".. whoever it was asked if he had a sister, that's all I remember. Maybe it was a deleted account..

Pond maybe it is good to be able to merely ascribe to a belief.. Some used to think the earth was flat.. some people thought the moon was made of green cheese.. A lot of what we supposedly "know" evolved from fiction. What is a hypothesis? Is it true, or is it somebody's guess? It just seems to me, without an exit ramp, a person may find themselves not where they really want to be.

"Haunting" No, actually I thought I might get a wider audience to contribute if they could do so anomymously. I do have some opinions about it, but I wondered where people have come in their thinking from vic's rather narrow approach to spirituality. Looks like at least three people can honestly say they don't know, for sure.

Thanks for your input, Roy. :) What is interesting here.. I think some of us have gone beyond the need to "know that you know that you know." That was not the main reason I came to der vey to begin with. What good is a belief, unless it can be backed down from? I think it is kinda like a computer program.. crank away at something long enough, and you really need to find an exit somewhere.. otherwise a person can be like a hamster on a wheel. ooops.. mixed metaphors, or similes..

Yeah.. "we're not here to have fun.." I've heard that enough times.. I've even heard that kind of sermon from an offshoot.

More like they pulled in the welcome mat. I don't think they have anybody left there with even enough warped logic to attempt to debate it..

I'd like to see one of these sycophants chime in and say how it was for our own good or something.. "you, sitting at the keyboard, you know who you are.."

I don't want this to go to doctrinal, and I don't plan on really discussing the belief, unless somebody really wants to. I would simply like to know what the general thoughts people have here with a poll. Don't worry, your vote is anomynous.