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That was not exactly a product that I REALLY asked for.. or wanted.. or needed. but somehow, in the process of looking for "family" that is what was shoved down my throat.. the "answer" of certainty was never satisfying..

So many pages.. I think modern sit + interpretation is nothing more than a training ground for false prophets..

Any further news on *mr* geer? Just wonder..

If you don't mind me saying.. it sounds like a lot of "new age" hokeypokism.. I'm sorry that I am so damned rude.. please ignore me, friends..

:) I've done that a few times..

So succinct.. the whole problem, is that it does not exactly come around.. it's like the spiral of Archimedes.. it's like, the next time it comes around, it is so far "out there" that you might have great difficulty recognizing it..

I have a few (wildly unprovable, and mostly unbelievable) thoughts.. 1. we don't die.. we (quickly) transition to another existence. Bouncing about, from one world, or one universe to the next. I don't know how that works out when you are 112 years old, or something like that.. maybe it is because one agrees to the terms the next time around.. I dunno. We (or I) stay the same, everything else changes.. Maybe, we move about, from one time line, to another.. I'm sorry. Please ignore ignorant, possessed Squirrels. It would be far easier to ignore me than to un-squirrelize the current thread.

but technically it is, because of the first post on the thread- "death as we [think] we know it.. maybe we need some refinement and redefinition here.. just what do you really MEAN? Death as we know(?) it? I think the first line takes advantage of many, many assumptions..

I had a better kind of death in this life.. 1. Everything I know and believe is just plain wrong. Or could be, or is most likely.. anything I think I know or believe (perhaps outside of pure or applied mathematics), Is at the best unprovable- in no way can I prove to another human creature (or any other species for that matter..) 2. *you* are not superior to me..

I dunno.. that is certainly a different kind of death, isn't it.. cowardice.. and in a strictly *religious* sense.. isn't that the result of kowtowing to anther's beliefs and spiritual authority?

ahhhhhhhh ha! That was what the vicster said, parroting Bullinger, etc, etc.. death as we KNOW IT- shouldn't that be death as we THINK IT IS? or maybe as some more affirmatively claim.. as we KNOW it HAS TO BE? But in reality- isn't it death as we delude ourselves as to what it is.. death as to what we may pretend, or even jokingly mock as to what it is.. or death as to what.. death as to what the religious leaders of the day say that it is.. or our friends say.. or those who want to hold us captive by convincing us (me) of the unseen flames lying on the other side of the veil..

All of this is based on the assumption that the dead (those who passed from this current life) are not alive somewhere.. some of us have the impression that we have been alive, and "died", many, many times. So then, I may have had a first, a second, a third, a fourth.. and so on, deaths.. I remember (or have an impression of, which you may label it true, false, slightly nutty, insane, or reasonable, as you wish) three deaths rather vividly. This IS doctrinal, after all, isn't it?

Nice old ladies.. they would get my vote, only if they would really run for office..

I'm in love with nice old ladies. maybe it's always been in love with.. or.. just plain appreciate.. these old ladies.. you can't accuse them of not knowing how to play music in a concert..

Why can't free vocalization be a genuine spiritual experience? It's just not limited to the christian culture.. even logically framed, human language kind of vocalization.. isn't this a damned MIRACLE in the big, bad cosmos? maybe only one of the victoids quotes makes maybe half a sense to me.. "human behavior is spiritual.." but he probably stole that from some source somewhere as well as most of the rest of his material..

I really come here, seeking friendship. But that is way too much to ask for..

if you don't mind me adding something so esoteric. The Seventh Doctor died listening to Puccini.. http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Giacomo_Puccini where does one find index file? Of course, one looks it up in the index file, under index file..

I always liked Zepplins's version.. but I never saw where they could take this song on the road.. these two nice old ladies really made it rock.. I didn't know they liked Zepplin.. now I know.. They stole the vocals from Plant. to the extent he really isn't needed.. Too bad Page hasn't considered playing with them..

Hotter than Zepplin.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcge3FoRM4Y&feature=related

is that his real hair (rightly divided) or something.. it does not look the same color as the hair on the sides.. in fact it looks like a pair of wings..

-Christ.. what are you going to do.. surely some other inhabitants of the cafe have beholden similar circumstances.. Her maj, she's a pretty nice girl, but she changes from day to day.. with the Maj you have to tell her a lot, even with a belly full of wine.. I've already jumped out of a few, in more ways than you could imagine, Even without drunkenly slurred words.. heh..

Asides from mathematics, if someone followed my detestable religion, I'd start jumping out of windows, to prove it was wrong.. the Creator have mercy on my soul.. heh and if that didn't work, I'd find a few more windows, more highly placed, to jump out of..

Snake Oil will only produce the desired result as long as there is no greasy price tag attached.. once you cross the line.. one of my greatest friends described it in a different context.. selling kaballa.. it is expressly Forbidden. With a capital 'F'.. it refuses to sell itself.. you cannot sell spirituality.. at any cost.. to do so is with the best interpretation I can come up with.. is Damnation.. Sorry for the weirdness. I hope it makes sense to somebody here..

that's cool.. so.. and this applies across many venues that I have observed.. whatever "it" is, works as long as their is no real, outside pressure.. There have been times.. I could read others minds.. but put it on a schedule, with a paycheck, and whatever "it" is will evaporate..

How are you and your children today? I could answer that question as well..for me and my children far better off.. but still.. for a brief moment, I saw everything in God's creation melt into the light..