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Thanks for your contribution Bolshevik. I'm still impressed that so many voted in a "I'm not 100% sure" category. I'm still looking for at least one other person to choose the first category.. vic almost got 4000 wows.. what's the big deal with one little vote?

I dunno. If holy spirit power, received EXCLUSIVELY by christians, gives one the ability to love like the Creator loves.. where's the beef? When is the last time you saw somebody from der vey, which, with "the heart of the word", spirit of God, manifestations, etc.. when was the last time you saw them get out in the community and do ANYTHING, for anyone, except for themselves? Maybe SOME have, but none that I personally have seen. And I was the same. They have "renewed mind" reasons, to not offer anybody anything, unless in their minds, the recipient DESERVES it. Just give em da verd.. that'll fix everything.. now they don't even so much as offer that.. on an open basis. Psychologists have enough sense to know that ideology doesn't mean a dang thing, if you don't know where your next meal is coming from. "They are poor because they don't believe da verd". "ok, you're right. I'll believe da verd. now how about some food.." "sorry, we don't support "rice christians".." Always a way out. Always an excuse, to do nothing. But it is supposed to be the greatest thing this side of the gathering together.. Agape, as twi practices it.. and some who have come out of that outfit have, not all though- I still vote arrogance.

Well.. he was cute. Before you say "eewwww".. This rat was a nice brown color, his tail was full, for a rat. He was so well groomed, I thought he was dressed up, and just out for a night out on the town.. Maybe he was coming by to pick up his date for the evening.. No, she didn't show..

Oh, nice signature Vegan.. To some it may be kinda nuts, but I have issues even with clubbing a rat.. can't criticise anybody else for doing it, just can't bring myself to.. last one it was "catch and release"..

I dunno. Maybe it's one of the little freudian slips.. they are really saying it's the decade for prev(alent)ailing..

If you have the cd version (blasphemy, heheh), it has a really neat folder that explains the people on the cover. At least one of the blank spots was a radical Indian guru, who was painted out of the picture by request of somebody in British government.. In one of the photos you can see a cardboard Hitler on the sidelines that they chose not to include at the last minute.. apparently they didn't want too much more controversy after Lennon's "popular as Jesus" remark.

Barney, devilish? Well. I thought he abandoned his T-rex ways, put off the old teeth, put on the new..

<<< If his eyes start following you around the room, you know you're in trouble..

I think there is an ending. Maybe that's what "resurrection" is really about. game is over, we all go "home".. a lot of religions have the thought that at one time, we will all see each other again.. I just think that that time may be a lot further in the future than what we think. I don't think the reincarnation is significant in itself, what is significant is experiencing this life. I think if most people remembered everything before, it would kind of ruin their enjoyment of life this time around. Perhaps we are given a chance to act out in a more free manner. But that's just my opinion. Subject to re-evaluation and change at any given moment.. :)

Thanks for your input Oldies. But did you vote? :)

In my experience, with the look on people's faces by the time session eight came around, number three may be the valid exception here..

It's like, really, really bizarre. Like one of them thaws out ever year or so.. "well. did you check the context? what about administrations, figures of speech.." "Well. What do you want to know THAT for? You know you shouldn't read stuff the Mog didn't approve.." or a glassy-eyed "It's so WONDERFUL that we HAVE the ANSWERS.." Almost like conversations I had twenty five years ago.. Sorry.. carry on..

I read POP and the considerations letter.. this accusation of heresy really smells the same to me. Where have these guys BEEN for twenty years? Maybe right before his demise, the vicster sent them off to hide in a missle silo or something, with instructions to emerge twenty years later and resurrect his plan for the world..

Makes me wonder what vp did to some of these guys, give them a lobotomy?

I still think it takes a small soul to sit back, cry their little eyes out, and then huff, "well. You oughtn't have donit, letting DEVILS influence you to cause divisions, not adhering to the letter of the almighty words of HIS HOLINESS which HE committed to us, by, our VERY OWN WICTOR PAUL WIENERWILLE.." "no new research, period". Sounds like a Geerite, if not he himself. Does anybody else detect just a LITTLE BIT of spiritual immaturity here? Doesn't want to grow up.. wants to be a vics r us kid..

Well, you never know.. With what's happening in this world, these sycophants very well may find themselves squeezed right out of existence.. I think they are gonna have to start producing some good fruit, if they have any plans of the following generation even remembering the name of the founder.. that is a very distinct possibility, even with offshoots trying to perpeptuate his name. I don't lose sleep over it though.

and the wars.. I think we have them, not because we are so different, but because we are so much the same. Seems the methods of war may vary.. but even with passive or non violent resistance, it is still a war. Gandi said something about using love as a weapon.

A friend witnessed to me. He had done enough crazy things, and lived through it, that I figured God or something was with him..

I don't know if I would agree that we come back until we reach perfection. How can you improve perfection to begin with.. that's the whole argument of the spark of the divine in each person, I think. I kind of have the impression that there are so many of "us", that the competition for corporeal existence is brutal..

Freedom is wonderful isn't it. I'd like to see somebody try this kind of discussion in "twig". and at the end of the day, nobody here ended up possessed or a greasespot..

Let me guess.. any similarity to Porky's II, Porky's revenge is purely coincidental.

Yeah, me too.. sometimes I feel like I've wasted a lot of my life. But that's not really true. Even twenty plus years in the daggone cult had a few positives.. Two children resulted.. and they look a lot prettier than me I wouldn't trade them for anything. Even if I could go back.. tell myself, "run. It's a cult, run for your LIFE.." I wouldn't do it.. :)

Yep.. the world is a small place, and it seems to be getting smaller all the time. And I think that is what a lot of people are, with regard to the guy sitting next to them that may have a few different beliefs, terrified. I was too, shortly after leaving der vey. Except for a couple who threatened iminent devil spirit possession, I don't get a sense of the "I'm afraid I'll get possessed if I talk with you" here at GS, even among the most loyal of vp doctrine adherents. Maybe we have come a long way.

"I'm not getting in that thing.. let's see how it scrambles YOUR molecules first."

Some people think that the earth might be like venus someday.. Venus is quite hot. Atmosphere rather dense.. and mostly carbon dioxide with a little nitrogen, and no water.