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Hmmm. Are you sure they are still alive?

I got involved in the community. I looked into one of the civic organizations that shared my interests, the local radio club. I made a few friends in the process. Next.. I did something that I NEVER EVER would do in the ministry.. and I won't tell it here. But maybe that's a step in the right direction. I'd say, do something you wouldn't do.. go to a Univeralist church, something.. you won't get "possessed".. :) Once I sat through a couple of Universalist services without trying to beat it to death with a bible. They seemed to be OK.. I also went back to school, and picked up my path in life that I left off when I got involved in the ministry.

Now THAT'S nuts. And "they" can't prove this is da will of god, without using circular reasoning. Oh, I've never seen that particular organization reverse itself with this little statement.. I can live believing nothing.. or everything.. or something in between, or even change it all next week. I think the "some of us" don't have the stability required to live like that. They have to be anchored to some dogma so tightly that they would kill for it.

With very few exceptions, I think a person can't find that kind of friendship on the internet.

I think that about says it all. I've seen people let people cross lines online that they ordinarily would not allow in person. Then the face to face meeting can be a nightmare..

Well, at the worst George.. these beliefs are no more insane than any other. :) Maybe even a little less insane.. I wouldn't kill anybody over them..

Those who witnessed his behavior around the time of POP suggested the same thing, if I remember correctly..

I tried mind-melding with a "biig cat" once.. I still have the scars to prove it.. Oh yeah.. number three above.. I've seen that one before. The guy dumped doe urine on himself.. friggin idiot..

But I still haven't lost my brain to not consider the facts carefully. Just not afraid to.. :

The guy is a graduate of Columbia University and Yale medical school.. smart guy. Of course the "traditionalists" would say, "well, the spurts sure are smart, aren't they, to trick the man." That's what I would say twenty years, or even ten ago, but I am not entirely convinced of that any more. One thing I can say about years in der vey, I NEVER saw anything like this, at least of this caliber, to convince me of anything. Just a lot of name calling.. calling devilish anything that didn't line up with their theology .

Happy birthday, friend! And Socks, I thought you knew better than getting a lady's age wrong..

well, congratualtions! He sure looks happy there.. congratulations to you too. Kids can do a lot, but without good parents, it can be a lot harder.

Looks like congratualtions are in order for somebody here.. what's the medal for? honors? band? Maybe sports?

Well maybe you're right. Yeah, not nuts.. but I don't want people to take me too seriously.. I sure don't want to start a church, or a Squirrel cult or something.. hmm. don't want people to be too afraid, either.. I'm glad you enjoyed the thread.

:) Well friend.. I've chosen the persona of a squirrel for a few reasons. main reason, number one: 1. Who in their right mind is going to follow a squirrel? I KNOW I'm nuts. well, that does have it's advantages.. considering there are ALL KINDS of nuts in Ohio, especially New Knoxville.. that may be the perfect place to relocate..

In a strange kinda way, I think next time he's gonna be a "nice guy".. willing to take a few insults, choosing not to use his power over others, when he could.. well, one could wish. At this point in life it isn't his choice anymore.

I would take it a step even further. Perhaps cats really do rule the universe.. all of those additional lives. A friend of mine admitted as much. He told me, "the cat owns the house, and allows us to stay here.." :) This cat from Podunk Michigan was a celebrity. If it wans't feeling well, they'd get calls from Indiana, Texas, all over the place. No kidding.

True, true. And I hope they have proved educational to some, and amusing to others.

I did. It was twenty years of TWI.. almost a whole different life..

I'm tired of knowing.. sometimes, I'd just like to have room to think.. I suggest that we didn't really "knew that we knew that we knew".. we only thought that we knew. Seems "I KNOW" makes the bucket pretty darn full.

But what I'm thinking about the cat.. it does not evoke negative karma for it to kill the rat. That is part of the cat's agreement or nature. But if it's between people and the rat, well.. there's only one rational decision for me. But if it is arbitrary, or a petty annoyance.. I wouldn't take its life. Just to kill something because it is a perceived annoyance.. I think that shows how primitive people can be.

So many lives.. I have some thoughts. One, the spirit or soul has just a tad more longevity than what one lifetime offers I think the "stuff" we are made of is toxic to the host it inhabits, i.e. the body. I think that is the real "aging" problem.. I think not the rat, but the spirit perhaps would come back. I kind of think they are God's creatures too. I had a cat, and it would bring various "presents" home for the family.. I could actually appreciate that, though it was a tad gruesome. Some say the cat brings home things for those they consider family. "good kitty (prrr, prrrrrr).." then the sad carcase would make an exit when the cat wasn't looking. I can honestly say that I've loved every soul I have met. Some I've had a few problems making a connection.. :) karma.. hmm. I think latent memories perhaps follow.. I think people unknowingly recognize people who have done good, or evil to them in previous lives. There are people you have the heebie jeebies about.. for no apparent reason. Why? I have had people tell me "I just can't trust you.." and I say fine. Makes no difference.. go with your feelings. And I don't take it personally. Maybe I was a real SOB last time around.. who knows.

I still think the significant point of debate is along practical lines.. if the "product" really is better.. what better is it doing in the world? Or even among the "household"? They don't even love those within the ranks. It's been proven, when some get sick, or old.. "it's because of YOUR SIN brotha.." They treat family worse than the "the infidel". "WE have a greater spirit.." That's nice. Let's see greater love..

Well, I hope you guys get the water you need without getting too pasted..

It's kinda like, if what they have doesn't set them sholders above 20,000 civic organizations, and kazillions of religions.. maybe they don't have it.