Ham

Maybe it gives some these folks a sense of importance.. they think they have something that 99.999999 percent of the rest of the world does not. Reminds me of the pride of der ministry..supposedly having the TRUTH as it has NOT been known since the first century.. "just don't confuse me with details.." especially if they don't agree with one's claim. What about.. the thousands upon thousands of shoes warehoused in some of the camps, that were confiscated from the victims.. I would say by the time they arrived, most of the people didn't have any shoes left.. and here, the camps were organized to the extent that they had a plan to warehouse a small detail as SHOES. where did they come from? Somebody wore them, once.. where'd the owners go? the pictures of the few survivors who were starved, and forced to work.. documentation of bizarre medical "experiments".. I think centrally controlled, massive action, on this scale, pretty much proves intent. along with Hitler's WRITTEN comments about what to do with the Jews.. I'll admit.. fantasy would be a lot more comfortable to embrace.

Why do I have the feeling that when Rosie "moves on".. she's gonna send donna packing.. Maybe no logic.. just a feeling.. she got what she want.. schmoozed her way to the top.. used the old prez's wife to acend the ladder. What more does she need from the "administrative assistant"?

Seems like the needs and wants thingy provides a pretty "good" reason to show why one person has "results" and another apparently does not.. the vicster got his plane, motorcycle, auditorium.. etc. etc.. "well.. he MUST have had his need and want parallel..." "where's MY plane? I don't need it very much, so I just want it a little. Needs and wants parallel.. what gives?" I think this is when the other guy starts stuttering..

I dunno.. I think that's really putting God in a rather small box.. The "never" is what gets my attention here..

looks like cut and paste from twenty some year old vey magazines to me.

Thanks.. keep the names coming.. still don't know yet.. :) Mee and oww.. at least they would have named themselves..

With big fish stories, sometimes I can't tell whether it's the fish that's big.. or the story..

I thought that too.. but was the Squirrel gonna post that? Nooooooooo.... You're a braver man than I, Mr. Dan..

I think it was an itch for power, even before India. he admitted as much in der vey living in love.. upset with the church, upset about being told what to preach, congregation calling him on stuff.. taught on TITHING four Sundays in a row.. "cried like a baby" when they confronted him.. livid that the elders and deacons wouldn't roll over and just let him run the show.. calls them cop outs.. "elders don't eld, deacons don't deac.." then he prays.. "father, if you don't give me something that I DON'T HAVE TO BACK DOWN ON, I'm outta here.." then a voice comes out of heaven, and a dove, or is it snow that decends upon the gas pumps.. something just doesn't seem very rational here..

Hmmm. Besides the fountain and contents nearby, actually, they didn't bother with building the sepulchres.. just buried the prophets ashes in the woods.. maybe that makes the whole place a sepulchre of sorts..

Pretty big assumption.. I think that most people aren't smart enough to know what they really need a lot of the time.. myself included.

Don't be so sure about that. Some mathematicians are pretty darn serious about nonsense in the profession.. Like slick vic.. did his "research" in such an unbiased, "professional" manner. "had da WORD said so and so, I'd a GLADLY accepted it.." I wouldn't believe that for the proverbial New York minute. Must be why he sent his men on a wild goose chase trying to find manuscripts to support his theology.. "one day, they'll find a text.. it HAS to say such and such in da original.." Sorry.. never found it.. I find the analogy between vic and leuchter to be more fitting than leuchter and Jesus.. far less contrast. Anyway.. leuchter desecrated a CEMETARY.. Not only criminal, but immoral. No matter how you crunch the numbers, no matter how many died there.. Auchwitz is STILL a graveyard. Any insane effort to reduce the numbers, at least in this particular context, is irrelevant. In my opinion.. the man is unclean.. associated with death, and a defiler of the resting places of the dead.

Loved.. for who I am.. No. It's asking too much for any individual, married to them, or not.. My experience.. giving that kind of love.. people wonder what the he** is wrong with you.. generally speaking, of course.. :)

What desperate tactics? Something like.. illegally using a hammer and chisel to remove bricks from a death chamber? If you want to talk desperation.. I think that's it.. ends justify the means I guess.. no wonder he so "desperately" debates the "ends"..

It may be a minor point.. but that's not exactly the description I'd be pleased to see in my own personal resume, or on my tombstone either.. If I were an amateur mathmatician. and I came up with a new version of the multiplication table.. I suppose I'd be "vilified" as well. 9 times 9 is not 81.. it's 156. cmon, you smart guys.. we need some independent investigation here.. can you imagine.. in a court of law.. "mr. ham, what are your qualifications to make such an assertion.." I'd better have a pretty convincing argument, and a degree from Harvard.. or Oxford.. The state of Indiana once was considering establishing the constant Pi as 3. Not the customary 3.14159265.... The "poor, vilified" professor who asserted this.. well, the results were proven to be unfounded and false. Poor, persecuted, destitute (probably didn't hold much of a job after such a claim) MARTYR.. only thing I can say.. if someone wants to be a martyr, there are a lot better causes looking for one, other than holocaust denial, or desecration of the numer Pi..

Yeah.. had I somehow gone on staff, it very well could have been me. A heck of a way to spend a "retirement".. some of these people are approaching at least what the world considers retirement age. And the powers "that be" very likely extracted labor from each of them, at least twice of what anybody in "the world" would require.. so I wonder what's the plan? what are they gonna do at 65? moneyhands seems to have enough bases covered.. and rosie the ribiter.. I don't know about donna..

Oh.. I don't think we've been properly introduced. You can call me Ham. :)

You're welcome. I'm just doing my best to help out. I've been thinking of taking the babe to the doctor. They say they have high power lasers that can burn the tattoos off.. might help his job prospects..

I know exie.. I have a little compassion. It's sixty five years old, and it still can't find a job..

It reads like from an old Star Wars movie.. father and son, joining forces to overthrow the "emperor", and bring peace to da galaxy.. do they really think they are THAT important? That much "in touch" with the cosmos or something? So important.. that the presidency of a defunct, gasping for breath cult, is somehow going to make a difference? Naw.. it's gotta be about the money.. and slaves.. Problem is, the new "queen" is gonna have to smell a lot like what came before..

All they seem to have left are examples from the distant past to draw from.. right down to the theme.

It can be hard for an individual, if they have seen the good side of some of these sycophants.. even as small as it may be.

Hmm. With only one difference perhaps. He didn't go and get an engineering degree from pike's peak seminary and technical institute. He simply just didn't get the engineering degree to begin with..

David Irving relied on leuchter in his failed trial against Lipstadt claiming slander. Irving.. one of leuchter's own kind.. ended up calling leuchter a "simpleton", in a nice english accent. The american equivalent of this description? Bozo, dullard (rarely used now), oaf (sometimes used today), imbecile.. you get the idea.. I didn't say it, Irving did..

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/holocaust/usa/leuchter/part01/ Assuming *mr* leuchter is an "expert" in toxicology.. would not he have known this? "these are samples that may have been CONTAMINATED in an industrial accident" the whole methodology of testing would be different. Mainly, they wouldn't crush the sample, they'd inspect only the first few microns of the surface.. I don't have a very kind description for the guy.. even somebody with a single class in high school chemistry would know better, or at least could understand or at least follow the description of basic testing procedures, unless he slept during class.