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For some perhaps, I can see the logic in that. Maybe they were passed over for "promotion".. Maybe they can't figure why some moron wearing tights, with the sexual proclivities of a Guinea Pig, prancing about on stage got the position that truly should have been theirs.. only thing.. the position and "honor" included a pair of tights.. Perhaps some of the jokers should have had a shot at it.. probably would have brought earlier destruction to da "ministry" and kept a lot of people from a lot more grief.. I wonder if loy was the "best" the vicster had.. managed to fuel the "beast" for what.. about fifteen years longer?

Comparing that to "sickness is death in part, or in whole" suggests to me the mogster was saying that "they" would be getting us in the eventually..

I dunno.. maybe he has something there. Maybe he could be "The Funeral Singer".. can he do In-a-gada-da-vida?

I think some people have a fear losing their illusion in a manner not unlike a horrible fear of death.. Seems they bargain for their illusion, defend it's supposed honor..

Sheesh. Maybe I ought to get one,and hook it up to my furnace..

Congratulations! Now what's next?

And what about the teeth.. nothing like being a "dentist" in the third reich.. 384 pounds worth.. and who knows how much more went to the smelter before them. If this doesn't bring to one's mind new meaning for the words "twisted", "gruesome", or "despicable".. I don't know what to say.

I can see the logic in this..

Probably a good thing I don't rely on my five senses.. might come to the conclusion that a whole line of mogs and mog wanabes were not much more than sexual deviants and serial abusers.. sheesh.. might get possessed or something..

I remember it.. "both men had the promise of God.." as if the vicmeister thought that he weally weally had revelation or something.. Good thing I don't look at the five senses. I'd probably think he had delusions of grandeur or something.. why these "miracles" have to occur a half a world away.. and to people whom I've never met, and likely never will..

"Don't look at the five senses.." I've heard it a few times.. You might come to the conclusion that the guy who saw snow on the pumps in a warmer time of year might have been just SLIGHTLY "troubled", or is experiencing glaucoma at it's worst.. Or that maybe, just maybe, someone who has angels come down, and lie to them, see snowstorms that apparently nobody else can.. maybe, just maybe, might be slightly schizophrenic.. naw.. we don't NEED the five senses.. or a guy who almost poses as Jesus in one of his classes.. tells an Indian guy, "stretch for thy hand" or something like it.. too bad the pictures didn't turn out..

I remember some of the "don't look at the five senses" spin doctoring at times.. after he worked over the camera guy over in the advanced class.. "oh, it's because he's SOOOO spiritual, had to protect der household.." why couldn't people just look at it honestly.. he was just a p***k. Or loy. Honest to God. presented Bullinger's work on "the riddle of the spinx" as his own.. the most committed say, with eyes glazed over: "We are so THANKFUL for da MAN who brings new light to da ministry.." Naw.. don't look at the senses. You might come to the conclusion that loyster was a con man, a thief.. a friggin idiot.. clutching at straws to find something to make himself look "important".. it was one of those surreal moments.. I'd read Bullinger already.

I could understand the statment if you put it "I put "dr's" writings in the same category as Leonard's, Stiles, Kenyon's, Bullinger's.." Mostly it was THEIR writings, to begin with. You could hardly call their writings, or any possible arrangment of them as being "der WORD of GOD"..

explains the gills and fish type lips..

Soooo.. did everybody live through the "week of terror"?

Here is one of the above ground "chambers". doesn't look like a gas chamber built in the U.S. in the states that allow such a thing, does it? It was built on the cheap. "lowest bid".. made on a budget. I kinda doubt the construction would pass modern codes for construction.. the little "vents" are well above eye level.. that's where the little man likely wearing a gas mask dumped in the poison. who do you think "cleaned up" after the "event"? Not likely the nazi's.. It was largely a slave labor operation. Work forced with the barrel of a handgun, or with the butt of a rifle.. I wonder how much they cared about the slaves being subjected to residual gas..

what about "key" number ONE: "To receive revelation, you MUST be MEEK" sheesh.. didn't seem to keep the almighty from keeping his word and will from the most austere, unbelieving arrogant a**holes.. at times. Usually it was "believe, or die".. or something like that..

yet, like the little red engine, "I think I can, I think I can.." "what the mind of man can conceive, and believe, it can acheive.." There's "the law of believing" for you.. for what it is.. I'd rather not believe..

A lot of the time, I think some people couldn't feel the back pains, etc. etc.. because after a session with some of those wackos, you had a whole different kind of pain to deal with.. there's a psychological term for it.. it escapes me at the moment..

I think some people wish it were possible though..

I dunno.. outside of some kind of bizarre Pavlovian conditioning, I don't think people even have the option to not look at, or not trust the five senses.. "I think my back hurts.." *kzzzorrtttt* "no, that's negative.." "But I really hurt.." *kzzzzzzorrrrttt* "we don't confess negatives here.." "but.." *kazzzorrrrrrtttt*

Here's one guy's attraction to Holocaust denial: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Covington Maybe he wants to go back to the "good old days".. The guy is actually serious about it..

Why did we think he was such a "nice guy.." worthy of praise and esteem.. I think for me, mainly.. quite a few people I trusted gave him the respect and admiration he didn't deserve. I thought.. "well, whole world can't be wrong..." just another lemming, I guess..

Goey, you forgot the big question. "What if the vicster was just a nice guy" I may have not seen the REAL abuse, but I did see when herr vicmeister got "ugly" with people over a pretty insignificant matter.. the poor camera guy in the "new advanced class".. he ripped him up and down.. I remember a visit at "headquarters" once.. I saw the corps working their royal a**es off.. and one of the guys had a radio.. the mogster started a tirade over the radio, "CMON.. YOUR'E CORPS.. GET WITH IT.. etc, etc.. if this is the best you can do, I'll have to just send you all home.." SOB didn't have a clue what they were doing.. I heard him two or three rooms away, tearing into some limb leader because the building he scheduled for his mogness just happened to have one of the psychic convention meeting scheduled on the other side of the building.. Like.. what's the guy gonna do? Ask the convention center guy, "hey, are you gonna have debils in meeting rooms here next year when we're having our meeting?" Well.. he just stood there and took it.. The few incidents when I was even close by, when he wasn't teaching, he didn't seem to be very pleasant. Then there's the Living Bible incident. I don't think I've ever seen a "preacher" throw a bible before, while he was cursing and spitting.. But who knows, maybe he was a nice guy.. I dunno. Capone could be a nice guy.. when it was to his advantage..