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I really really think.. 99 percent of "revelation" is not much more than the product of an over active imagination.. loy saw "homos" coming in hordes out of the woods.. he seemed to have "revelation" about everything.. through his mighty mogness, he predicted the arrival of the last pope on U.S. soil by way of aircraft carrier.. yep. he was "trained" by the "best".. In case you think I'm "demeaning" the proper usage of "revelation".. a person would be far better off doing this, than gambling their whole life, REAL fortune or relationships on a whim, or "still small voice".. loy renamed that one.. "genuine(?) spiritual(?) suspicion.." he coulda saved ink, omitted the first two words..

that's fine and all.. but for some people, I'd suggest they double check to see if it really was "revelation", or if they got their meds mixed up in the morning.. Personally, I've experienced a few "funny" things.. but I wouldn't interpret them as some kinda "message" to go build a church, or a cult or something.. It just might be a slight case of indigestion... hardly a reason to think you have the "revelation" to put all of your estate on number 44 on a wheel in Vegas..

Perhaps. maybe you should ask them.. what I really wonder though.. not being "careful.." I wonder how many times the mogster wasn't "careful"..

I dunno.. maybe he had more than one personality.. (1). On one hand, he wanted the "free love" and sexuality of the sixties, for his vewy vewy own.. freedom to do as he wished.. (2). On the other, he wanted a pristine, clean organization, above reproach.. no scandals to taint his quaint world.. and unwed pregnancy, and drug use, and other stuff, resulting from (1) made (2) soooooo "untidy".. what to do? Well.. the two personalities have to come up with SOME kind of "agreement".. I dunno. Makes sense to me..

Hey.. at least it's an ARGUMENT. No, I wouldn't hold Mr. Smith accountable for all that blood.. now, if he PURCHASED and DONATED the tommy gun for Dillinger, or Capone, then we're talking about some responsibility. vic taught that abortion was not murder, and as such, kinda ok to do.. then he PAYS for them.. in my opinion, he was DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE.

Interesting.. the proportions are not too much unlike the other thread. Maybe people can't stand the same menu.. even in a different restaurant. *mr* linder. you may wish to forward the results of this little survey to "ms. big* as well. Marking and avoiding dissatisfied customers, or those who contracted botulism isn't exactly gonna fix the menu..

Welcome, Nero. Thanks for the comments. *mr* linder. Please forward the results of the survey to the chef in your establishment.. three out of four here have rated it with less than one star. in fact, the best you got was one star. Maybe you need a new chef.. and menu.. and decor..

If one believes the account.. wasn't that what the devil tried on Jesus? "ah, you're the son of God.. conventional wisdom does not apply.. just jump off, you'll be A OK.. ANGELS will take GOOD CARE of you.."

Is it possible.. he was the "mogster".. a "nice guy".. well. He paid for abortions.. no, he didn't pay.. he took MY abs, and used it to pay for abortions. Without my permission. a "man of Gawd"? his teaching enabled it.. he "promoted" it.. at the very least, he betrayed the God he claimed to serve.. and the "household" he claimed to lead. "abstain from all APPEARANCE of evil.." well.. whadda we care what the rest of the supposed Christian world believes.. what about if your "liberty" causes your brother to stumble.. I guess it only applies in der "prevailing" household.. forget about ninety eight percent of the rest of the Christian world. Somebody said on another thread about "well, whadda about the dark ages.. da verd sure wasn't a movin then.." The closer I look at vic's teaching and influence, and how gullible people, and myself were.. I don't think we ever really pulled out of the dark ages.. Just turned into savages living in quaint houses.

which proves to me: unless I hear a voice from heaven, or an "exception" granted by angels or something, to ME, personally.. that PROVES to be more than an illusion, or a garden variety hallucination, conventional wisdom applies.

What about the who knows how many who were slaughtered before they were born.. under vic's auspices.. yeah.. vic used abs to "fix" the little "problem" I don't think one could get closer to his filthy hands being pretty much responsible..

See.. if you argue, "well, it would have taken them 30 years to remove that many teeth. First, they hafta rinse the mouth, then it takes fifteen minutes for the nurse to administer novacaine, then the "doc" has to follow this procedure, that procedure.." It's insane. 1. No, they didn't care about any kind of sterile field or anything around the "patient" (providing he or she was even still alive).. 2. No, they didn't care whether the "patient" experienced pain. Of course, if he was no longer alive, that's kinda a moot point as they say.. 3. No.. no sterile instruments. You just reach in with a pair of pliers, grab, and pull. No time for a stitch, or a "brave" effort to stop bleeding.. "next patient, nurse.." If you're looking for some kind of compassion and humanity in the perpetrators of this kind of business, you're looking in the wrong place.. that's the same insanity I see arguing the gas chamber specifications.. they built the suckers on the cheap.. something big enough, CHEAP enough, to get the "job" done.. no hermetically sealed, perfectly aerated units.. just a BIG block house, spigots to pour out poison gas, or little slots to pour in the powder.. did they care if the next set of victims inhaled just a little residual gas? Or the ones conscripted to remove the bodies? Ya know.. they didn't exactly follow "queens rules" in this business..

Ludicrous? No, they are evidence.. 384 pounds worth, of gold and silver that were among the lot that just happened to not make it to the smelter. Had they made it to the smelter, I think one MAY argue that the gold was not originally teeth. But lo and behold, there they are.. maybe it was a little shipment the nazi's forgot about or something.. If they were removed before, or after the death of the individual, it is still as gruesome, still as twisted.. 384 pounds of gold teeth.. my, the "dentist" was busy.. Do we get the same argument about the teeth? "oh, it's impossible for a dentist to pull that many teeth.. has to be another hoax.." I imagine the little man in the white frock awoke every morning, and like the little red engine, kept saying, "I think I can, I think I can.." Those teeth belonged to PEOPLE at one time. What happened to them? Where did they go? Same for the shoes..

Hmmm. I wonder if that may have been one of the old vicmeister's explanation where some of the money may have gone.. kinda like a defense before charges were laid.. some kind of ace in the hole.. "We are missing five million bucks.." "oh, devils musta teleported it.."

The map was rather dissapointing. With a big operation like that, I expected to see in a map something more like this:

The version I heard was that the "rich man" had to be "unloaded" to make it.. i.e. shed the wealth.. Pretty noble and pious sounding, as long as you're not the guy with the money..

You have to be able to love yourself at least primarily, to do just that..

"well, more well than you could imagine.." "I can imagine a lot, kid.."

Ummm.. actually, most of us here are lower than the devils on der vey's hierarchy.. honestly.. "they" would rather visit a seance than come to "twig" with us..

Whoever you are who voted on the other one, did you see this poll too? :)

wow.. just when you think it's dead, it gets another vote.. Hey, L*nder.. you might want to forward the results to "quality control" there..

viruses.. nasties.. I didn't know that lysol or bleach could kill devil spirits..

You might be walking by the "five senses" if.. you don't think something is fundamentally wrong with wearing a sweater with Looney Tunes characters embossed on it to "twig".. Freud might say that subconsciously, I was expressing my true feelings..

You think you got a flat tire just because of "dumb luck", and that devils didn't carefully balance the nail in the road carefully on it's head, just as your car drove by going to "twig".. that you are sicker than a dog, simply because of the general population recirculating a few flu viruses.. that you got fired for any other reason than you represented "gawd" in the workplace..

Nametags.. just another way to know who's supposed to be "more important" or "superior" in the body of Christ.. Yeah.. the bigwigs didn't wear one, did they.. I guess if a person didn't know they were supposed the lick "mr. big's" boots, something musta been wrong with them..